SEC Tennis

@Clemson_tennis if the first thing to point out is the UTR to sell oneself, be careful! This rating is corrupt in ways you can only imagine. The system has been set up to favor EU firstly and then NA. To ellaborate, let me say that if you start from scratch in EU tennis, you'll get placed higher after the first match than anywhere else. But the current ATP ranking is pretty convincing to say the least. Obviously, the 21-year old won't be able to make it in pros but at the college, given that he's got brains, he may a lot more likely.
There’s a wide range that these European players can achieve when they come over here. For instance Vulpitta had a high UTR of over 13.30 when he joined UGA last year and ended up having a mediocre year playing #6 for them. Meanwhile Papamalamis at A&M and Ghibaudo at Kentucky had very good years at the #1 spot in the SEC as freshmen.

Ole Miss added another signee after this, from Serbia (another former Miss State pipeline). Vlado Jankanj, UTR 12.79.
 
Will this guy be a freshman? At 21?
There is a well-known pattern in these cases.

1. "Freshman" recruit from overseas is announced who is 21 or older.
2. Angst and hysteria follow.
3. At the end of his first year playing, it is announced that he is leaving because he only had one year of eligibility, or during his second year of playing, he suddenly is listed as a Senior on the team web pages even though they had him listed as a Freshman the year before.
 
Why does a young guy at that level and ATP ranking take such a direction? He's most likely ineligible for a scholarship. Interesting I must say.
who will he practice with? Do they have anyone on their team above 13.00?
Excellent question for the D team. But top pro players hit with 12 UTRs too. I've heard that about 1 1/2 year ago Jannik Sinner objected to top junior ITF player Joao Fonseca for a hitting partner due to the Brazilian's heavy hitting style.
 
His 13.77 UTR would be 12th best in the nation in last year’s college tennis field.

choosing the last place SEC team is certainly interesting. And it’s not like LSU has much other momentum, like they got Ponce De Leon from Alabama in the portal but otherwise they don’t seem super improved. Must be some kind of personal connection to get him there.

I don’t mind it. Spreading out top talent is better for parity than them all clustering at a few select schools.
 
His 13.77 UTR would be 12th best in the nation in last year’s college tennis field.

choosing the last place SEC team is certainly interesting. And it’s not like LSU has much other momentum, like they got Ponce De Leon from Alabama in the portal but otherwise they don’t seem super improved. Must be some kind of personal connection to get him there.

I don’t mind it. Spreading out top talent is better for parity than them all clustering at a few select schools.
Agreed that it is better for the tennis landscape. I know his freshman year, Ozan was kinda that guy for Michigan State. Maybe LSU had a good connection/sales pitch?
 
Agreed that it is better for the tennis landscape. I know his freshman year, Ozan was kinda that guy for Michigan State. Maybe LSU had a good connection/sales pitch?
NIL money ?????
LSU had great teams with Jerry Simmons and Jeff Brown (when they had no indoor courts)
I would like to see them become a top program again. The SEC has really fallen behind the ACC for top tennis programs.
 
Vandy has a good recruit in Hoyoung Roh. Just won the 25k in Louisville. Precision game with a superb inside out even from close to the center hash, ie, can consistently hit that angle from the deep center of the court.
 
thank you

very stupid.....that a team only gets included in the rankings if they added at least 3 players

a school could add 2 very good transfers that will play 1 and 2......and college tennis nation will not include that school in the rankings
It's a just for fun poll. Not sure of the rational behind the 3 players minimum. Could be because this transfering thing is so widespread there may just be a lot of teams with 3 transfers. I think they ought to do it by conference and use a metric like team UTR before and team UTR after the transfers.
 
That account encourages transferring. They get more excited for the transfer portal than the season. Showtime Leh has transferred 3 times himself.

Southern Miss fans are getting false hopes up. I saw some non tennis people Southern Miss fans being like “are we a tennis school now!?” About the transfer announcements, not realizing they aren’t really gonna be any better based on the quality of the players.
 
That account encourages transferring. They get more excited for the transfer portal than the season. Showtime Leh has transferred 3 times himself.

Southern Miss fans are getting false hopes up. I saw some non tennis people Southern Miss fans being like “are we a tennis school now!?” About the transfer announcements, not realizing they aren’t really gonna be any better based on the quality of the players.
I'm not a fan of multiple transfers in any sport. Typically the underlying reason to transfer is not a positive story. Lack of playing time, differences with coaches, teammates, something that's not discussed in the public space. There's exceptions, but more than 1 transfer is just wild. I know from first hand experience in my family. LOL. Story better told over a beer.

Guessing the news hits some sort of So. Miss sports news web site. By and large they are a baseball school first. Hattiesburg has a nice tennis community for a small town, but like most universities, tennis from a fans perspective is a niche sport.

As I've said previously, when youngsters celebrating the transfer portal today get older (when they have kids), I'd like to hear their thoughts on this madness. Across all sports it's absurd and likely won't age well. Might sound like an old guy, don't care.
 
Willing to admit I was wrong. Southern miss bringing in 3 12 UTRs given their history and conference the past year. They did well in the portal and I admittedly didn’t have the best understanding of the impact
Yeah I was overstating it when I said “won’t be much better”. I was mainly talking about the Southern Miss fans who don’t know much about tennis and are probably expecting something like their baseball program. To them the difference may not be noticeable if they aren’t following closely unless Southern Miss is able to win the Sun Belt.


Also that list does correctly put San Diego State #1 based on their criteria. They were able to get great transfers considering they haven’t been that good in the last few years. Maybe they are tired of the Torreros running that city.
 
Incoming Kentucky Freshman Nicolas Arseneault won his 1st round match in Toronto as a wildcard. Beating world #111 Valentin Royer 6-3 7-6(4). Has the defending champ Popyrin next up.

Brother of Ariana who played at Auburn
 
His 13.77 UTR would be 12th best in the nation in last year’s college tennis field.

choosing the last place SEC team is certainly interesting. And it’s not like LSU has much other momentum, like they got Ponce De Leon from Alabama in the portal but otherwise they don’t seem super improved. Must be some kind of personal connection to get him there.

I don’t mind it. Spreading out top talent is better for parity than them all clustering at a few select schools.
Ponce de Leon plays college tennis? Did he discover the fountain of youth?
 
With the 2025 SEC new 9 player roster limit for men’s tennis, will the SEC schools be at a competitive disadvantage with other conferences that are using the NCAA D1 10 player roster limit? The SEC men will have a 9 player limit and SEC women will have a 10 player limit.
 
With the 2025 SEC new 9 player roster limit for men’s tennis, will the SEC schools be at a competitive disadvantage with other conferences that are using the NCAA D1 10 player roster limit? The SEC men will have a 9 player limit and SEC women will have a 10 player limit.
I don't think so. The 8 - 9/10 players rarely see the court anyway in the spring.

What I'm curious about is will those schools have 9 or 10 fully funded scholarships now? If yes, I see it hurting the mid-majors and small D1's the most as the P4's will load up their rosters with all the talent they can get their hands on. On the other hand, for American kids who really want to play college tennis, there could could be more open spots on mid-majors and small D1's.

Am I remotely seeing this right? The new rules are crazy to me.
 
I don't think so. The 8 - 9/10 players rarely see the court anyway in the spring.

What I'm curious about is will those schools have 9 or 10 fully funded scholarships now? If yes, I see it hurting the mid-majors and small D1's the most as the P4's will load up their rosters with all the talent they can get their hands on. On the other hand, for American kids who really want to play college tennis, there could could be more open spots on mid-majors and small D1's.

Am I remotely seeing this right? The new rules are crazy to me.
The NCAA D1 schools can fully fund their 9 or 10 men rosters if they choose to do do. The schools can give partial scholarships if they want to.
 
With the 2025 SEC new 9 player roster limit for men’s tennis, will the SEC schools be at a competitive disadvantage with other conferences that are using the NCAA D1 10 player roster limit? The SEC men will have a 9 player limit and SEC women will have a 10 player limit.
Not at all. There were years where we only had 8 guys anyway. Hard to subdivide 4.5 scholarships 10 ways and get true top 15-25 quality line up guys low. Most of the time it's a walk on that is good enough to see limited action at 5/6 in mostly out of conference.
 
Florida lands 23 yr old Lorenzo Claverie from Italy who'll join them this Spring. Got as high as 643 atp.

Is it a one year deal or will he be able to play a few more like DK Suresh of Wake is at 25? I guess we'll find out.
 

Here is what College Tennis Nation put out about the upcoming season in the SEC. I mostly agree, except I would put Kentucky ahead of A&M. Who are you watching closely in the sec this year?
I agree with putting Kentucky over A&M and I honestly think LSU in theory is higher than A&M. Out of the whole group, realistically only Texas is a title contender but that's just my opinion. I do think Mississippi State, Kentucky, and LSU can make decent/deep runs though.
 
Miss State has the advantage of being the experienced team. They have all the same key pieces from last year without any new ones. So it will be interesting to see how that matches up against the new nucleus of players on other teams. It'll show how much team continuity and experience mean.
 
Coaches's poll - January 8th

Will Husack finally get the axe if Bama finishes last? Will Tennessee fire Woodruff if they only win 1 or 2 matches in the SEC?

SEC Men's Tennis Preseason Coaches' Rankings:
1. No. 2* Texas
2. No. 7* Mississippi State
3. No. 13* Texas A&M
4. Kentucky
5. Oklahoma
6. LSU
7. Georgia
8. No. 18* South Carolina
9. Florida
10. Vanderbilt
11. Auburn
12. Ole Miss
13. Tennessee
14. Arkansas
15. Alabama
 
I would say Woodruff is ok since they just made the sweet 16 last year. But yeah this year’s Tennessee team does not look very good.

Alabama looks like the clear worst team this year. That poster who’s been calling for Husack’s job forever on here may be vindicated at last.
 
I would say Woodruff is ok since they just made the sweet 16 last year. But yeah this year’s Tennessee team does not look very good.

Alabama looks like the clear worst team this year. That poster who’s been calling for Husack’s job forever on here may be vindicated at last.
Most interesting line of the day for me was at #1. Vols Dragos Cazacu lost twice each match vs. Oscar Martinez and Martin Vergara, also line 1 dubs Oscar Martinez / Martin Vergara won twice. The Vols Cazacu is a ETSU Gr. transfer. Although likely not playing their best matchups, both ETSU players were winning against Wake Forest and went unfinished. Just maybe, Oscar Martinez & Martin Vergara may be worth tracking during the season.
 
what is the best web site to find upcoming matches. I have used Chris Halioris's site in the past.....but I am having trouble finding the link now.
Thanks much.

Yeah, I usually use the CTR site also, but it looks like the weekly schedules aren't in there yet for this year. Right now, I'm using the ITA upcoming matches page, but it often misses some.

Arizona vs Oklahoma is another big one today
 
Couple of big SEC/Big Ten tilts today. Kentucky vs Michigan State and Miss State vs Illinois
another instance where the ITA site is poor....
Kentucky schedule shows that they are playing Michigan State on Sunday
 
really good night for the SEC....
Oklahoma win over Arizona
Mississippi State over Illinois
LSU(without 2 top players) over Clemson

Kentucky, Oklahoma and LSU ......picked to finish 4,5 and 6.......are light years better than Georgia at #7
 
really good night for the SEC....
Oklahoma win over Arizona
Mississippi State over Illinois
LSU(without 2 top players) over Clemson

Kentucky, Oklahoma and LSU ......picked to finish 4,5 and 6.......are light years better than Georgia at #7

Good weekend continued for the SEC today. Kentucky with a pretty convincing 5-2 win over Mich State and South Carolina got a 4-3 win at Columbia (minus Zheng of course).

Florida also beat USF 4-3 Friday.
 
Surprising win for Florida over Kentucky today. Ghibaudo has not had a good start to the year for UK.
Yeah I was surprised by the Kentucky results. Ghibaudo had some solid pro results recentlt and looked to have the potential to step up a little this year. Im sure Kentucky will figure it all out but I am curious where the disconnect for them is right now.
 
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