Self-Rate Question
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esgee48
G.O.A.T.
So if you have the data on their tennis history, just compare it to the questionnaire for USTA self rate. If they’re lying, then they’ll get a bump up. Just playing HS etc in their own country doesn’t really subject them to a bump up. Playing internationally and representing your country could.
Were they rated in their country?
Were they rated in their country?
innoVAShaun
G.O.A.T.
I had a cousin move to the US from PI that played college also. After playing with me and a group of friends, he was at a minimum a 4.0.
I did a search online to find the results but couldn’t find anything. There’s another guy who played college in the Philippines who is a 5.0 self-rate.
This guy played on a championship team, so I would imagine he’s better than 4.0.
austintennis2005
Professional
Look up their UTR
Sidney Porter
New User
I didn't know the NCAA had any international schools in the Philippines.
I think there are a couple Canadian schools that participate in NAIA and at least one at the NCAA D2 level. But most would be in the CCAA. Years ago my son had a swim coach who was from Michigan but swam in college at a Canadian school. It wasn't NCAA she said it was comparable to NCAA d3 / NAIA
I think there are a couple Canadian schools that participate in NAIA and at least one at the NCAA D2 level. But most would be in the CCAA. Years ago my son had a swim coach who was from Michigan but swam in college at a Canadian school. It wasn't NCAA she said it was comparable to NCAA d3 / NAIA
Here's an article about the recent college team championship in the Philippines. Seems pretty high level - many of the players have UTR's in the 9's and 10's.
varsitarian.net
UST Male Tennisters repeat as UAAP champions
THE UST Male Tennisters retained their UAAP title after cruising to a 3-1 victory against the Ateneo Blue Eagles in Game 3 of the Season 86 men’s tennis finals at the Rizal Memorial Coliseum on Sund
varsitarian.net
Purestriker
Legend
Sure, why not?
I’m skeptical. I would think that it’s at least 4.5.
am1899
Legend
I would guess Suspension Points?
That makes sense.
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
Suspicious Profile.
schmke
Legend
I don't know for sure, but suspension points perhaps makes sense.
Purestriker
Legend
Wow. So they cannot play at all? Even at the higher rating?
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
Gotta have a deterrent.
Purestriker
Legend
Fair point and I am guessing you really gotta be out of level to get that treatment.
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
Naught naughty.
He played for a championship team in the Philippine version of the NCAA. There’s another guy who also played there, and he self-rated as a 5.0.
The guy who self-rated as a 5.0 is probably a low 5.0, but he’s still a 5.0. I questioned the guy who self-rated as a 4.0 right away.
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
That sounds kinda like the Sinner excuse. “I’m just a simple tennis player.”
That changed in 2023 when they put the official suspension point system in place. Knowingly underrating is now part of the official suspension system. Based on everything here, it seems like the USTA considered the Filipino college system to be the equivalent to the US NCAA.
Captain Crunch
New User
He's also a teaching pro. So there's that too.
"Teaching pro" does not enter into the self-rating algorithm at all. I think there used to be a rule that teaching pros had to self-rate at 4.0, but that was at least 10 years ago or more. There are several teaching pros in this area who are legitimate 4.0s and a couple who are 3.5. While many teaching pros are current/former high level players, you don't really have to have any talent to feed balls to bored housewives in a Tuesday morning drill, either.
Captain Crunch
New User
Great point. There was a 3.0M rated teaching pro playing in our 6.0 Mixed League last year and his rating was/is legit since he's mid-50s and didn't play in college.
