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Pete Player

Hall of Fame
Must be some odd good declination on me, yet the foot trouble, cause all my sports seems to go into the right direction.

First the Seniors tour card, then Mid Ams and now the first round in Seniors winter league.

I wish the damn foot would settle. Another small setback is that my ”achilles heel” the re-constructed but gave me a heads up and felt cold in the tennis on Saturday night and now feels again swollen since few months ago.


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ChaelAZ

Legend
Back to matches on Mondays and Wednesdays, but luckily many are at our facility so won't be driving all around to play on crappy courts. Need to lighten up my weekend practices though to save energy and body aches for the week. Weather has been really nice in the evenings now though.
 

Curiosity

Professional
So as I mentioned before the over 55 sectionals in Texas is this weekend. They hold the event in the lovely town of Beaumont which is 4 hours away and close to Louisiana. Last year there was a tropical storm and we got lots of rain and ended up on some covered courts, one 4 game set, no ad. Nobody was happy about that but oh well. So this year...Tropical storm Imelda is drenching Southeast Texas and it looks like it's going to affect the matches again. I wonder if anyone at the USTA considers that climate change is a real thing that is going to effect where sectionals should be played.
I have to laugh. Sympathetically. In Beaumont it's not climate change. It's just the climate. It's been soggy, humid, flood-ridden... forever.
 

Curiosity

Professional
Yes, both ways. However indoors golf in a heated bubble is really, really boring, and would require a big retirement, were you to practice the amount. And you really need a true off season, cause the summer is really hectic. Need to reload your brain for new season. Working with other equipment and different balls and sticks will sum up to your ability in golf too. I am a true believer in variable training.

Tennis on contrary is cheap and my heart gets the needed revs in tennis during winter with some hockey on the side, cause other, outdoors cardio is not really nice down here - on the 60th lattitude - for most of the winter. Not really much of snow to ski. At the Arctic Circle it was and is better, but the temps get too low between November and February. Lot of x-country skiing in the cold and youl catch asthma.

Except for the highest of lobb shots tennis indoors is regular HC play and feels sane in comparision to whacking balls off a range mat. For swing maintenance once or twice a month is good enough. And dicipline/sports oriented workout in the gym keeps your muscle memory working. And you gain some power too.


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I occasionally come across your weather-related comments, but the 60th parallel baffled me. I though you were alternately in Denmark or Spain. 60th is southern Norway or central Sweden. I went many years between Stockholm and Spain, now Eastern US and Spain, so the temp/humidity variation and its affect on my sports is interesting, non-trivial.
 

ChaelAZ

Legend
Weather has been gorgeous at night...my game...not so much. Another match tonight and will regroup depending on my failure or success.
 

norcal

Hall of Fame
Sorry to hear man! Hang in there, maybe cut back on hitting for a bit till you feel that passion again.

I have the opposite problem, I want to hit so much, everything feels great except my hand. Playing #1 singles this weekend against an undefeated team (away of course) with zero match play or practice going in. Oh well I will be a good sacrificial lamb and give us depth lol.

Been running sprints at the park with the dogs so I should move well for drop shots at least! :-D
 

norcal

Hall of Fame
So Yesterday turned out much better than expected. My hand was not hurting for the first time in a while and I ended up beating the best singles player in the league 4-6 6-4 7-5 in a long, hard-fought match ( saving 2 match points)!
Legs felt great and I moved really really well, guy commented he could not believe I was 54 years old.
Felt fit enough to play line one doubles afterward since we were short players and won that matches as well.
I must have played pretty good because the other team tried to recruit me to play with their USTA team. That is something I would love to do but the reason I play local league is we don't have a USTA team in my town and I don't want to travel to play home matches, maybe in the future when I have more time, it was a nice complement though.
Also, only one double fault in 5 sets of tennis, not bad. I am very sore today lol
 

ChaelAZ

Legend
Well, still not winning matches, but getting more games and confidence each match.

Had some really solid play last night, but then a lot of mental errors. And then normally my ROS is one of the things I can depend on, but my backhand return - even just trying to slice/bunt it back to start the point - was a joke, and well exploited by the opponents last night. That was probably the key to the match as points we got in we were winning a good percentage. Still too much inconsistency of play overall, with some really solid play, a lot of average play, and too much poor play. Good group of guys though and I love being back with them. And they seem to have more confidence in me than I feel, so that is encouraging. lol.

Top items I need to improve:
  • Mental - focus and competitveness
  • Movement - Not getting tired as much as not moving/reacting fast enough at the higher pace.
  • Technical - More crisp volleys. I am leaving too many up on court that should be putaway.

Body is holding up decent too. **knock on every piece of wood within a 10 mile radius!** :p
 

heftylefty

Hall of Fame
Just signed up for the Long Beach Seniors. I will be playing the double nickles (55s) single. Fortunate for me the third set is a 10 point tiebreaker. I will report back after the tourney.
Just check the draw and I got the 2nd Seed. I am nervous, but this is what I signed up for.
 

heftylefty

Hall of Fame
Just check the draw and I got the 2nd Seed. I am nervous, but this is what I signed up for.
I took a L Saturday. Lost Love&Love.

I has very nervous and didn't get into a rhythm. My opponent was very steady. Didn't give me any free points.

If I'm going to play senior tennis, I have to commit myself more; and get over my stage fright.
 

Pete Player

Hall of Fame
All, but one home game set for the fall season. Not much to organize, as there are only eight clubs on the league. And the season lasts till end of May. So, it’s one round of the robin each month.

I was at the club watching my ladyfriend to play in their away match against my club ladies. She lost and so did they in the doubles as well. Not in a very good mood afterwards playing crap and allways the same against a moonballer. The opponent is s strong lady, fought three cancers allready and allways seems to bounce back into playing shape after the treatments. Hats off!

At the same time there was our second division team of 45-yos, who got their asses whiped. The opponent had former ITF players from 90’s in their team and one of them still has ranking and level similar to 5.0, if not above. Good to see my coach playing against far better players live. I’ve watched the National League games in the past, but that level is too high to find similarities with my game.

Anyway the opponent, 5.0 guy hit with authority and really accurately moving him around the court. Obviously looked that my coach had had a pre set to play aggressive, and if not on the base line, not more than a meter behind. That resulted him to hit most of his forehands on the back foot, which he never does against us in practice. Kind of easying feel to see also the better get into trouble with their tournament play with the same issues, we seem to have. Not moving sharp enough, not finding the rythm nor the space to hit properly and so forth.

Anyway really informative and there was a lesson to be learned. Will see, how this affects my next game Saturday night. Really looking forward, cause the opposition should be a couple of levels stronger than on the first round.

Monday morning breaking sweat, 8 o’clock tomorrow morning it is - with an old friend, son to our neighbor years back when we were school kids and played at our front yard in the parking lot. He used to go practicing in a club and became a good player, but as many of us quit later, yet play occationally still. Not in tourneys though.

Ankle feeling better now. The swelling is down to mild or modest at least. Not hurting all the time, thanks to reduced amount of walking and the newly fitted inner soles, which I naturally use also in my tennis shoes.


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Pete Player

Hall of Fame
Wow! Something happened automatically as I wrote to the Rackets board. There I had an avatar, which I have not selected ever. John Mac with a light sabel. LOL


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norcal

Hall of Fame
I took a L Saturday. Lost Love&Love.

I has very nervous and didn't get into a rhythm. My opponent was very steady. Didn't give me any free points.

If I'm going to play senior tennis, I have to commit myself more; and get over my stage fright.
Yeah you may want to take an 'underdog' attitude in these tournaments: assume everyone is an ex-D1 college type and you have nothing to lose. Nothing worse than feeling like you're in a match but losing all the games because you're tight. A friend of mine has been playing some 60's tourneys with moderate success. He played D2 and has a nice game.
 

Cage Rattler

New User
Reminds me of a local doubles league match a few years ago .. Very strong team playing a weak side and the weak side brings in an unknown player .. He only has one racquet, wears old trainers with holes in them, and very old clothes looking pretty scruffy. And playing with a well-known weak player. Everyone thinks this is a joke and going to be a waste of time .. An hour later a lot of VERY surprised guys .. Turns out it was Jeff Coetzee, current coach of the best doubles pair on the tour. Lesson learned .. Don't fall in the trap of judging a player by his gear .. Sometimes a useful reverse psychology strategy!
 
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norcal

Hall of Fame
In league play swung back from playing #1 against a very strong player to playing #3 singles against a not so strong player. Worked on placing serve and being aggressive on serve returns on the fh side, stuff I need to work on. Played a 3rd set for fun since we ended kinda quick. Anyway in last 6 sets of singles only a couple df's which is great.

Weather starting to cool off, in the 40's this morning, brrr. I imagine it is perfect now in AZ, huh @ChaelAZ ?

edit: also went and watched the Fairfield challenger on Saturday, great way to prep for league watching world class players up close. The Australian guy who won (straight setted Steve Johnson in the final) is quite a player.
 
Thanks for your input @norcal; it's much appreciated. If there was any consolation, the next guy he faced got double bagel'd too and he ended up winning to tournament. But here's the kicker: he was down a set, tied 3-3 in the second and his opponent (No.1 seed) retired.
There are some very strong senior players, many of whom can give much younger folks all they want! Probably of equal or greater significance is the issue of tournament experience. The concept of “match toughness “ is very real!!!


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ChaelAZ

Legend
Skip if you don't wanna here venting...

Not sure what is going on with my match play anymore. Seems I have one good match, then it's like I have never kept a tennis ball in a court in my life. SOOOO many games I am up and serving for it, or even have the opponent down to break them, and just absolutely F it up. I can't even tell you how frustrated I am. I can't believe my level has dropped as much as it has. And it isn't weird errors in points, not just shanks early. I construct points decent and am completely F in up put-aways. To the point I don't even get games! The guy I played tonight kept saying, you should be killing me, and that just makes this whole situation worse. My serve is solid, and groundies are decent, but offensive shots are crap. I keep trying the 70% thing, and even those are going long. (insert a long string of curse words)

The concept of match toughness is absolutely lost on me anymore. Ughhhh...

/venting
 
Skip if you don't wanna here venting...

Not sure what is going on with my match play anymore. Seems I have one good match, then it's like I have never kept a tennis ball in a court in my life. SOOOO many games I am up and serving for it, or even have the opponent down to break them, and just absolutely F it up. I can't even tell you how frustrated I am. I can't believe my level has dropped as much as it has. And it isn't weird errors in points, not just shanks early. I construct points decent and am completely F in up put-aways. To the point I don't even get games! The guy I played tonight kept saying, you should be killing me, and that just makes this whole situation worse. My serve is solid, and groundies are decent, but offensive shots are crap. I keep trying the 70% thing, and even those are going long. (insert a long string of curse words)

The concept of match toughness is absolutely lost on me anymore. Ughhhh...

/venting
I'd look outside technique for the cause [if there is indeed a cause and not just a random bad patch of weather]:
- diet
- sleep
- niggling injury
- eyesight
- balance
- shoes
- racquet*

Any one of these things can throw off your entire game.

*One time I tried to "pick up" a ball by hitting it in rapid succession while on the ground. I wasn't able to. I thought something was wrong with my arm. Turns out my racquet was warped.
 

ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
Skip if you don't wanna here venting...

Not sure what is going on with my match play anymore. Seems I have one good match, then it's like I have never kept a tennis ball in a court in my life. SOOOO many games I am up and serving for it, or even have the opponent down to break them, and just absolutely F it up. I can't even tell you how frustrated I am. I can't believe my level has dropped as much as it has. And it isn't weird errors in points, not just shanks early. I construct points decent and am completely F in up put-aways. To the point I don't even get games! The guy I played tonight kept saying, you should be killing me, and that just makes this whole situation worse. My serve is solid, and groundies are decent, but offensive shots are crap. I keep trying the 70% thing, and even those are going long. (insert a long string of curse words)

The concept of match toughness is absolutely lost on me anymore. Ughhhh...

/venting
Good rant (y) ... sounds like you really suck unless you have a warped graphite racquet.8-B
 

ChaelAZ

Legend
I'd look outside technique for the cause [if there is indeed a cause and not just a random bad patch of weather]:
- diet
- sleep
- niggling injury
- eyesight
- balance
- shoes
- racquet*

Any one of these things can throw off your entire game.

*One time I tried to "pick up" a ball by hitting it in rapid succession while on the ground. I wasn't able to. I thought something was wrong with my arm. Turns out my racquet was warped.
It's tough right now and I am just not evaluating well with being so frustrated. And then my frustration is making me even more frustrated and sucking the fun I used to have out of competing. And then...I have that one good game again and I get drawn back into thinking I am leveling out. If I get blown off a court, I say good match and appreciate the experience. But this is just a comedy of errors anymore.

I guess the bright side is, if I keep sucking I might be able to get dropped to 3.0 and then go to nationals. Seems like the thing to do. Any Texas captains wanna go-fund me to be on their team?
 

OnTheLine

Hall of Fame
It's tough right now and I am just not evaluating well with being so frustrated. And then my frustration is making me even more frustrated and sucking the fun I used to have out of competing. And then...I have that one good game again and I get drawn back into thinking I am leveling out. If I get blown off a court, I say good match and appreciate the experience. But this is just a comedy of errors anymore.

I guess the bright side is, if I keep sucking I might be able to get dropped to 3.0 and then go to nationals. Seems like the thing to do. Any Texas captains wanna go-fund me to be on their team?
Just read through your past few posts on the frustration. And yes, losing ugly leads to losing more as the frustration builds. It is as if you have somehow forgotten how to win or how to compete. BTDT.

What are you telling yourself prior to a match? That you "have to win?" or that you "can't lose another one?"

Some random thoughts:
Find a somewhat lower level opponent ... someone a little lower than you who would appreciate playing against a stronger player. Play a match ... simply to be able to feel what is like to win. Re-gain your confidence.

During a match put yourself in "clinic" mindset ... No pressure, just every ball counts. Worry about each shot individually instead of the entire point or an entire game.

Instead of looking at the match as the competition, find the joy of hitting each shot.

I have been on a court with you .... you clearly enjoy hitting, tap into that feeling.

Finally, examine if you have been wearing unlucky attire ... if so, you need to fix your laundry rotation so that the unlucky stuff is not available for matches.

Looking forward to seeing the Happy Chael's posts again.
 

ChaelAZ

Legend
Just read through your past few posts on the frustration. And yes, losing ugly leads to losing more as the frustration builds. It is as if you have somehow forgotten how to win or how to compete. BTDT.

What are you telling yourself prior to a match? That you "have to win?" or that you "can't lose another one?"

Some random thoughts:
Find a somewhat lower level opponent ... someone a little lower than you who would appreciate playing against a stronger player. Play a match ... simply to be able to feel what is like to win. Re-gain your confidence.

During a match put yourself in "clinic" mindset ... No pressure, just every ball counts. Worry about each shot individually instead of the entire point or an entire game.

Instead of looking at the match as the competition, find the joy of hitting each shot.

I have been on a court with you .... you clearly enjoy hitting, tap into that feeling.

Finally, examine if you have been wearing unlucky attire ... if so, you need to fix your laundry rotation so that the unlucky stuff is not available for matches.

Looking forward to seeing the Happy Chael's posts again.

Thanks B!

Yeah, I was upbeat and positive to start yesterday. Banged some serves and played some great balls. We were 2/2 and I was feeling like I was there...and then....choke. Went down 2/6 and immediately the mental dialogue changed. Honestly, I still worked through and felt relatively calm until I couldn't finish out the first games serving and one possible break to start the second. That is when my opponent even said, "you had me there man" and something about not sure what is going on with my game (we have played before and he knows too). I think that just set me off to some internal dialogue that was less than healty and would probably make trucker blush. That disappoints me most, normally being a very positive person and being a teacher/mentor/coach...I know better.

Again, my teammates have been awesome and do keep encouraging me, and I appreciate it. I moved down to #3 dubs for tomorrow's match against a VERY weak team. I am hoping that will be a confidence boost, but given my mindset I am also hoping that isn't the straw that has me bow out for the season. I gotta find a happy medium to feel like I am at least competing.

Thanks again. Got some work to do. The suggest are MUCH appreciated. (y)
 
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OnTheLine

Hall of Fame
Well, the polar play continues. Rocked dubs and won 6/1 6/2. Felt better overall and seeing the ball better. Team swept overall too.
Excellent.

Good to have one of those matches on the books.

In your encyclopedia of memories, bookmark it so that you can easily remember and tap into that mindset/feeling in the future.
 

OnTheLine

Hall of Fame
At 1/5 this season, the jury is still out. :unsure::eek::p
Out of curiosity, what league are you guys playing right now? Do you have an early start 18+/40+ ?
Our Fall league is an "adult other" non-advancing but counts towards YE ratings. There is also a 50+ league that does advance to a statewide championship .... not playing in it because it is too geriatric for me at this point.
 

ChaelAZ

Legend
Out of curiosity, what league are you guys playing right now? Do you have an early start 18+/40+ ?
Our Fall league is an "adult other" non-advancing but counts towards YE ratings. There is also a 50+ league that does advance to a statewide championship .... not playing in it because it is too geriatric for me at this point.
I am on an 18 and 40+ for 4.0, both started last month. The 18’s has some very high level guys and the 40+ is a good mix.
 

ChaelAZ

Legend
Well, getting better overall, though 1/6 for the worst season I have ever had. Killed the two 4.0 self-rates last week and barely lost a tight match against two decent players last night 4/6, 7/6, 0/1 (7/10 i. The tie break). And that was with my partner only golding serve once the whole match, so that cleaned up and the match would be very different.

Feeling better overall, but still just “off” with seeing the ball. The best thing going is still my serve which has been a good weapon.

One bummer is my a long time hitting partner of mine had been having issue lately. Went in and they found a main artery 99% block so surgery right then and there. Also found another partial block. He is out for 6mnths.
 

Dartagnan64

Legend
One bummer is my a long time hitting partner of mine had been having issue lately. Went in and they found a main artery 99% block so surgery right then and there. Also found another partial block. He is out for 6mnths.
That's a big welcome to the seniors lounge.

And I worry about my golfer's elbow....
 

ubercat

Semi-Pro
Well I think I'm officially old. I started playing pickleball and am enjoying it. I noticed it can really screw up your tennis. because the court is so small you could pretty much take everything as a FH. So I'm going to go the other way and try and take everything as a BH.

I probably have to find a hit up wall to so I can still keep practicing hi bouncing balls.

People say it will improve your tennis vollies.

But in my case it probably won't. my issue was I play at night and I can't see highballs under the crappy lights at Melbourne park.

The only weird thing was that I had a sore top of the hand and right wrist after playing. Which I thought was strange because it just seemed like tennis with really flat balls.
 

ChaelAZ

Legend
Got another W last night, pretty handily, but that is playing against UTR 4-5 guys, so more towards high 3.5/low 4.0 players. Been competitive with some of the UTR 6 and up, but scorelines suck there. Overall, still a lot of really good and really bad, but working through. As mentioned, weather has been excellent here. Got out last weekend and watched the 55+ 8.0 dubs playing, so that was a bit of inspiration. Some really solid players, but nothing that if I get my chops back I couldn't be competitive in.

How's everyone else doing with tennis? Getting out much?
 

norcal

Hall of Fame
Glad to hear your game is coming around!
I'm playing pretty well considering I can't play too much. My tennis schedule consists of a 1+ hour of practice (no serving) on Friday followed by league match on Sundays. Unless I opt out of league (if it's a weak team and/or if we have lots of guys available) then I hit a second time instead of playing a match.
Even though I get zero serve practice (because it's hard on my wrist) I have been serving much better in matches. I have reworked my motion/toss (to an extent) watching videos and shadow swinging with no racket. Very few df's and better placement (thanks to better toss). In that respect not playing many matches has been good for me.
Sprinting in the park with the dogs and skimboarding has really helped my movement - best it's been in 15 years probably thanks to all the sprints and fixing the hips.
I've played 5 singles matches in league, going 5-0.
1: guy was top few in league, I was underdog, beat him in marathon 7-5 in the 3rd. Great win.
2,3: Guys were solid, I would consider myself the favorite, beat both in 3 sets.
4,5: Guys were a level below, easy wins.
Played dubs twice, won both.
So 3 tough singles matches in which fitness helped me win the third (thank god no 3rd set TB lameness, I hate that about USTA).

Our team is going to win the league (local 4.0 league), we are 8-1 with 1 match to go. Last season there was a team made up of all self rates with a couple legit 4.5's and several strong 4.0's and they dominated. But they are gone, so our deep, solid team is doing well.
Anyway, I wish I could hit 3-4 times a week, I think I could be playing really well but hopefully the wrist will finish healing and I can do that in the spring. I would like to play USTA (the good guy I beat invited me to play on his team) but I would have to travel to play home matches and I don't have the time. Maybe when my kid goes off to college.
So all things considered, it's going well.
 
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