"Serena and I should be friends; we have the same passion" - Sharapova

Man of steel

Hall of Fame
Her ego is unstoppable.

Her shamelessness is unstoppable.

Unfortunately, for her, her game is quite stoppable. LOL.

Plus most people would have enough shame not to have such an attitude toward a player who has beaten you time after time after time and you haven't gotten a single win in almost 15 years. Her record against Serena is an embarrassment. If she had some shame, she'd never utter Serena's name.
Forget the lack of wins. The lack of sets off of serena is embarrasing. 3 sets in ~10-12 years.
I don't mind that she mentions serena's name. Its an autobiography after all. But the manner she did it in which is most likely a way just to sell more books if she puts something seemingly controversial about her biggest competitor is distasteful to say the least
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Her ego is unstoppable.

Her shamelessness is unstoppable.

Unfortunately, for her, her game is quite stoppable. LOL.

Plus most people would have enough shame not to have such an attitude toward a player who has beaten you time after time after time and you haven't gotten a single win in almost 15 years. Her record against Serena is an embarrassment. If she had some shame, she'd never utter Serena's name.

Her last win over Serena came in November 2004 at the final of the WTA Tour Championships so it's actually not quite 13 years.
 

TennisLBC

Professional
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The moment you realize your medication is only a placebo.
#unstoppable
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Sexually-frustrated males who populate this website are particularly prone to Sharaphobia on these grounds.

And, of course, you are right to say Errani's doping elicited little interest and even a high degree of forgiveness.
I bet if Maria Sharapova wasn't as successful and as beautiful people would not hate on her that much. And this has been the case way before the "ban". But even after the ban, if you compare for example how people hate on Sharapova compared to Errani, it's a very clear difference. I guess it comes with the territory because she's beautiful, rich and successful, so a lot of people are jealous.
 

Soianka

Hall of Fame
Her last win over Serena came in November 2004 at the final of the WTA Tour Championships so it's actually not quite 13 years.

Closer to 15 than to 10, so "more than a decade" seemed to understate things.

We were saying she hasn't beat Serena in "more than a decade" a few years ago...so it's time to move on to the next metric.
 
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Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Your opposition between fixation and fear is absurd.

People obsessively accusing her of cheating are both fixated and fearful of her cold, friendless beauty.

This is another trope endlessly repeated in this thread.
Actually sexually frustrated men would be more prone to have a fixation on Sharapova as oppose to a fear of Sharapova.
 

hound 109

Semi-Pro
Has anybody watched (or heard) Sharapova since the suspension? Does she still shriek like a hooker trying to earn a $10 tip....while her opponent is trying to play her shot? She's a one dimensional player who Cheats and also Dopes, who's merely trying to elevate herself above her raising (by putting herself in the same sentence as Serena).

Not as hot as Kournakova and not as good a player as Hingis....plus she cheats on ever point & plays tennis like a girlbot....so what's the point? She and Azershrieka have no reason to be more than an annoying footnote in any Tennis conversation.
 

TennisLBC

Professional
Your opposition between fixation and fear is absurd.

People obsessively accusing her of cheating are both fixated and fearful of her cold, friendless beauty.

This is another trope endlessly repeated in this thread.

And people obsessively excuse her cheating. And they are also fixated of her cold friendless "beauty".
So there you have it. Maria got keyboards fluttering.
 
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Chadillac

Guest
Sexually-frustrated males who populate this website are particularly prone to Sharaphobia on these grounds.

And, of course, you are right to say Errani's doping elicited little interest and even a high degree of forgiveness.

Its not the sexually frustrated men, its the ones like that like men who hate on sharapova. Notice they also think serena is good looking, easy way tell
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Neither Sharapova nor Errani were found to be cheating.

Doping infringements can be inadvertent or accidental.

I find not attending to an email a more plausible excuse than cancer drugs rolling into a pasta dish.

But maybe you're a trusting sort.
And people obsessively excuse her cheating. And they are also fixated of her cold friendless "beauty".
So there you have it. Maria got keyboards fluttering.
 

Purplemonster

Hall of Fame
Sharapova vs Serena , as a corporate entity, is like comparing a Fortune 500 with a mom and pop store. It does not really matter if Serena was on TSN before Sharapova.

Sharapova Inc , as a model, endorser and a business woman is really ahead of Serena.

The converse holds true for on court achievements.

Well summarised. It's all that really matters in women's tennis as the actual tennis played is pathetic to watch.
 

heftylefty

Hall of Fame
Sharapova vs Serena , as a corporate entity, is like comparing a Fortune 500 with a mom and pop store. It does not really matter if Serena was on TSN before Sharapova.

Sharapova Inc , as a model, endorser and a business woman is really ahead of Serena.

The converse holds true for on court achievements.
Sharapova's estimated net worth is $198Million. Serena's estimated net worth is $148.3Million.

In what universe is that difference is comprable to a Fortune 500 company versus a mom-and-pop operation? My only hope is that you're not a professional tax preparer, a CPA or math teacher.
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
Outside of tennis bubble Kournikova is more well known. I don't even think this can be debated. If I remember correctly she was at one point the most Googled person on Earth. She's not necessarily remembered for her tennis though...

On a similar note, while Sampras was a greater player than Agassi, I think it's fair to say that more people remember Agassi. I started playing/watching tennis in 2006/2007, and up until that point I knew three players: Agassi, Roddick, Federer. I think it would be fair to say that many people had never heard of Sampras, but plenty knew who Agassi was. Of course this is just my opinion, and it's not really supported with any facts.
Back in the early 2000's, 100% for sure. But as of now in 2017, ask any newcomers to tennis, the younger players and fans, it's all about Hingis and not Kournikova. Of course the pervy 35-60 year old men would remember Kournikova and her shoots but the youngsters? Nah, she's no longer relevant.
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
I bet if Maria Sharapova wasn't as successful and as beautiful people would not hate on her that much. And this has been the case way before the "ban". But even after the ban, if you compare for example how people hate on Sharapova compared to Errani, it's a very clear difference. I guess it comes with the territory because she's beautiful, rich and successful, so a lot of people are jealous.
Or maybe it's because Sharapova has arguably been one of the biggest faces of tennis in the past 14 years whilst Errani isn't known to anyone outside of tennis and Italy....
 
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Chadillac

Guest
I find not attending to an email a more plausible excuse than cancer drugs rolling into a pasta dish.

But maybe you're a trusting sort.

Do cancer meds need to be broken up into food usually? Wondering why her mom chooses to take her meds on a schedule of eating. I dont see why she would want to dillute a cancer drug unless it was making her feel really bad. Maybe they dont have a time release version.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
The med may be a pill and not a capsule. I really can't see this dissolving into food inadvertently, but that's the story.

Dissolving it while making pasta seems difficult and you would have to be opening the pack over the saucepan to get it into the broth.

So Errani's soupy tale makes Sharapova's story of inattention seem pedestrian.

And then we have Serena's panic-room tale for not letting the drug testers in!

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Purplemonster

Hall of Fame
Feminine? Thats a bit rich. Which player actually has t1ts again that you can actually see? Which player actually has an as* that people actually talk about.
My pecks and my as* are bigger than sharapova's. Sharapova has nothing going for her besides her face.

Legs
 

Vanhool

Hall of Fame
LOL their fan/troll rivalry is greater than their tennis rivalry! :D

I get what some are saying about the arrogance of Sharapova implying Serena's greatness is in part due to their rivalry, but I can't be mad about it. Over the years Serena has tweaked and improved her game to deal with new rivals (or even players that only happened to beat her once). Maybe she did make an adjustment, or just amp up her focus to make sure It never happened again. That's why she is able to keep winning even though physically she is definitely past her prime and constantly fighting injuries. She keeps learning, evolving, patching holes in her game.

Anyway, Maria can't not mention her matches with Serena. And their off court rivalry has certainly been real. From the tears of the Wimbledon locker room to the tears in the Olympic final, the drama has been fun. Maybe a little more fun if you'e Serena fan :)
 
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Bartelby

Bionic Poster
From memory, Sharapova only mentioned that first defeat as something that motivated Serena.

She wasn't making a carreer-length conclusion that 'Serena's greatness is in part due to their rivalry'.

As usual, Sharapova's arrogance is really a fact that the reader brings to the story.
 

Thriller

Hall of Fame
LOL their fan/troll rivalry is greater than their tennis rivalry! :D

I get what some are saying about the arrogance of Sharapova implying Serena's greatness is in part due to their rivalry, but I can't be mad about it. Over the years Serena has tweaked and improved her game to deal with new rivals (or even players that only happened to beat her once). Maybe she did make an adjustment, or just amp up her focus to make sure It never happened again. That's why she is able to keep winning even though physically she is definitely past her prime and constantly fighting injuries. She keeps learning, evolving, patching holes in her game.

Anyway, Maria can't not mention her matches with Serena. And their off court rivalry has certainly been real. From the tears of the Wimbledon locker room to the tears in the Olympic final, the drama has been fun. Maybe a little more fun if you'e Serena fan :)

The thing is, maybe Andy Roddick was saying to whoever that he would never let that Swiss arrogant barstool beat him again after jacket-gate at that Wimbledon final. It is one thing saying it, it is another thing being so far ahead in terms of tennis talent that you can make it happen. It is sheer delusion for Sharapova to think that some extra motivation because she heard Serena cry has been the crucial difference in their match up.

Actually it isn't delusional. It is a cold, calculated lie to help sell her grubby book. I don't believe for one minute that Serena and Sharapova have mutual friends.

And I definitely don't believe that Serena would call Sharapova a 'lil bee hatch' either. Sharapova towers over Serena.

'I'll never lose to that, annoying, stork-aced, bee hatch again', now that I can believe! Lol.
 
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tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
Sharapova's estimated net worth is $198Million. Serena's estimated net worth is $148.3Million.

In what universe is that difference is comprable to a Fortune 500 company versus a mom-and-pop operation? My only hope is that you're not a professional tax preparer, a CPA or math teacher.

LMAO.

Isn't Serena's career prize money at least 50 mill more than Sharapova's ?

Do the math yourself who kicks the other butt when it comes to off court success !!

Having less than a quarter of accomplishments of the other person and still you end up trouncing the other person in what the whole world revolves for is what Sharapova did !! Serena won the battle , Sharapova won the war !!
 
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Soianka

Hall of Fame
Sharapova's estimated net worth is $198Million. Serena's estimated net worth is $148.3Million.

In what universe is that difference is comprable to a Fortune 500 company versus a mom-and-pop operation? My only hope is that you're not a professional tax preparer, a CPA or math teacher.

He just wanted to quote Mariah Carey's "Obsessed." His post wasn't designed to make actual sense.
 

Soianka

Hall of Fame
LOL their fan/troll rivalry is greater than their tennis rivalry! :D

I get what some are saying about the arrogance of Sharapova implying Serena's greatness is in part due to their rivalry, but I can't be mad about it. Over the years Serena has tweaked and improved her game to deal with new rivals (or even players that only happened to beat her once). Maybe she did make an adjustment, or just amp up her focus to make sure It never happened again. That's why she is able to keep winning even though physically she is definitely past her prime and constantly fighting injuries. She keeps learning, evolving, patching holes in her game.

Anyway, Maria can't not mention her matches with Serena. And their off court rivalry has certainly been real. From the tears of the Wimbledon locker room to the tears in the Olympic final, the drama has been fun. Maybe a little more fun if you'e Serena fan :)

Serena would still be Serena without Maria Sharapova.

I think the obsession is pretty one-sided in this one.

For example...Just imagine, Serena had been caught using Meldonium for 10 years. There isn't a chance in hell Maria wouldn't have used that information to slam Serena on ever form of media possible and then use the information to justify losing to Serena for the last nearly 15 (13, LOL) years.

On the other hand, Serena said nothing bad about Maria's drug use because Maria truly doesn't matter to her legacy and probably matters very little to her personally as well.
 

heftylefty

Hall of Fame
LMAO.

Isn't Serena's career prize money at least 50 mill more than Sharapova's ?

Do the math yourself who kicks the other butt when it comes to off court success !!

Having less than a quarter of accomplishments of the other person and still you end up trouncing the other person in what the whole world revolves for is what Sharapova did !! Serena won the battle , Sharapova won the war !!
I did the math. And it clear that you have a tough time with concepts like percentage & ratio.

Now, what mom & pop store Serena would be again?
 

kabob

Hall of Fame
She was called a little b**ch because sharapova took her boyfriend. Cant blame dmitriov, serena has cellulite on her quads, lol,

I'm never going to tire of calling you out on your sexist, racist comments. That's not cellulite, those are stretch marks that are common with colored people as their muscles expand and retract during different stages in training as well as life. I have stretch marks in my shoulders and butt because I used to be more muscular but now work out less due to getting older and work pulling me away from leisure. As a guy, do I suddenly have cellulite, too? :rolleyes:
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
'For example', ... and then you go on to beat the eternally dead horse called Meldonium yet again!

Serena would still be Serena without Maria Sharapova.

I think the obsession is pretty one-sided in this one.

For example...Just imagine, Serena had been caught using Meldonium for 10 years. There isn't a chance in hell Maria wouldn't have used that information to slam Serena on ever form of media possible and then use the information to justify losing to Serena for the last nearly 15 (13, LOL) years.

On the other hand, Serena said nothing bad about Maria's drug use because Maria truly doesn't matter to her legacy and probably matters very little to her personally as well.
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
I did the math. And it clear that you have a tough time with concepts like percentage & ratio.

Now, what mom & pop store Serena would be again?

At about 100 million difference in terms of personal wealth in terms of endorsements it is like comparing Aunt Jane Thrift Store with Amazon
 

jm1980

Talk Tennis Guru
Wow Sharapova is so pathetic. Only way to sell her book to Americans is to try and drag Serena. That won't work Hun.

20 years from now, who's gonna be remembered more, Serena and her 23 slams or a no longer pretty 50 year old Sharapova who's career was tainted by a positive drug test. Mmm.

Who's remembered more, Hingis or Kournikova? Most newcomers to tennis know about the Swiss Miss yet wouldn't know much about some wannabe Victoria Secret model who peaked over 16 years ago and didn't really do much since.
Really? A lot of people who aren't tennis fans know Kournikova. Can't say the same about Hingis
 

Mr.Lob

G.O.A.T.
Sharapova is right, both she and Serena are passionate about tennis. Though I would say Sharapova MORE passionate of the two. Sharapova brings IT to every match...100% mental and physical effort...ala Jimmy Connors. Serena tends to pick her spots to when she will give 100%...ala Bernard Tomic. Difference is, Serena can give 75% and still win. She can spot her opponent a set, then decide to start playing...and win.

The part about them being friends is just that delightful Sugarpova humor. Hades would freeze over first. Man of Steel and Hefty Lefty would become President and Vice President of the Maria Sharapova Fan Club first. Ain't going to happen.

But, they have do have a lot in common to become friends. Tennis. Money.... Dimitrov. Both have that "witchy" attitude and personally. Sharapova is more the shade thrower, "Isn't she back in Poland already"... Serena more the, " I'll whoop your arse" type. So some common ground there.
 
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jm1980

Talk Tennis Guru
Sharapova's estimated net worth is $198Million. Serena's estimated net worth is $148.3Million.

In what universe is that difference is comprable to a Fortune 500 company versus a mom-and-pop operation? My only hope is that you're not a professional tax preparer, a CPA or math teacher.
To be fair, Serena has won $84.5 million in prize money, while Sharapova "only" won $36.6 million.

Sharapova basically outearned Serena to the tune of $100 million outside of prize money. That's an enormous difference
 

heftylefty

Hall of Fame
To be fair, Serena has won $84.5 million in prize money, while Sharapova "only" won $36.6 million.

Sharapova basically outearned Serena to the tune of $100 million outside of prize money. That's an enormous difference
Oh. So much like Serena's Slam count, now money she has earned is somehow less valuable.

How telling.
 

Soianka

Hall of Fame
People are talking in circles.

The claim was that Maria's business ventures inspired Serena's business ventures.

Clearly that is false when Serena and Venus have always had outside interests long before Maria was even a pro.

Maria was inspired by Serena in tennis and in business and not vice versa. She and her fans should be honest enough to admit that.
 

jm1980

Talk Tennis Guru
Oh. So much like Serena's Slam count, now money she has earned is somehow less valuable.

How telling.
The poster you were responding to said Sharapova's brand is much bigger than Serena, in spite of the latter's success on court. So far, you have failed to disprove this.
 

heftylefty

Hall of Fame
The poster you were responding to said Sharapova's brand is much bigger than Serena, in spite of the latter's success on court. So far, you have failed to disprove this.
I was speaking the ridiculous notion that Serena's net worth is somehow dwarfed by Sharapova's. While Sharapova's earning off court is substantial, it's not as if Serena is light years behind as tennisaddict would want you to believe. Apparently he's not addicted to math.

So you and others have provided, once again meritocracy only applies to some.
 

duaneeo

Legend
Sharapova basically outearned Serena to the tune of $100 million outside of prize money. That's an enormous difference

Not at all surprising. For male athletes, the big wins bring the big endorsements. For female athletes, it's about having the 'right' looks. Pretty, leggy, blond Kournikova (who never won a singles title) was the top-earning female athlete in endorsements before pretty, leggy blond Sharapova (who actually won titles) took over the reins.
 
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