"Serena and I should be friends; we have the same passion" - Sharapova

Surprised anyone cares what the cheater Sharapova thinks or says

Forget her she is a piece of trash

She can spend her remaining days as a known cheater in the mansion she cheated for and leave us all alone
 

Vanhool

Hall of Fame
The thing is, maybe Andy Roddick was saying to whoever that he would never let that Swiss arrogant barstool beat him again after jacket-gate at that Wimbledon final. It is one thing saying it, it is another thing being so far ahead in terms of tennis talent that you can make it happen. It is sheer delusion for Sharapova to think that some extra motivation because she heard Serena cry has been the crucial difference in their match up.

Actually it isn't delusional. It is a cold, calculated lie to help sell her grubby book. I don't believe for one minute that Serena and Sharapova have mutual friends.

And I definitely don't believe that Serena would call Sharapova a 'lil bee hatch' either. Sharapova towers over Serena.

'I'll never lose to that, annoying, stork-aced, bee hatch again', now that I can believe! Lol.
Serena would still be Serena without Maria Sharapova.

I think the obsession is pretty one-sided in this one.

For example...Just imagine, Serena had been caught using Meldonium for 10 years. There isn't a chance in hell Maria wouldn't have used that information to slam Serena on ever form of media possible and then use the information to justify losing to Serena for the last nearly 15 (13, LOL) years.

On the other hand, Serena said nothing bad about Maria's drug use because Maria truly doesn't matter to her legacy and probably matters very little to her personally as well.
I basically agree with you; I guess I'm just saying: "Meh."

Sharapova can say her truth, and I'm sure that day was way bigger in her reality than Serena's. She can't not talk about the day that launched her superstardom, or the woman that both "made her" and later crushed her time and again on the cour ( Lorderena giveth and taketh away).

I also think it's obvious that Serena brings a little something extra to her matches with Maria. She seems determined to not let her win again...that's why the matches are so tense even though the outcome is all but predetermined. You guys really don't think so? Maybe she didn't have to change her game, but she does intensify her focus, which is sometimes lacking when she plays a plays other players that she is friendly with or indifferent to. That's how it looks to me anyway.

Anyway, Serena is the best of 2-3 generations and she is in a completely different class than Maria. Great danes don't worry about chihuahuas yapping and nipping at their feet, other than as a minor annoyance (OK, Maria is more than a chihuahua for sure....miniature poodle or whippet maybe?). Nothing Maria says has any real impact on Serena, so who cares? If Serena doesn't even care, why should I?

I can't get mad at Maria for telling little story...I find it amusing. If it weren't for all the weird little personal digs over the years, their whole matchup would be super dull.

I have seen videos of Serena and Maria at events sitting next to each other and laughing and joking. If Serena could eventually be friends with Hingis :eek: why not Maria?
 
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Chadillac

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Not at all surprising. For male athletes, the big wins bring the big endorsements. For female athletes, it's about having the 'right' looks. Pretty, leggy, blond Kournikova (who never won a singles title) was the top-earning female athlete in endorsements before pretty, leggy blond Sharapova (who actually won titles) took over the reins.

Also helps not to threaten to kill lines judges, call everyone racists and show up high on centre court doing a crip dance.

Its amazing serena's fans ignore why she is less marketable. Accountability for your actions isnt something they practice
 

Man of steel

Hall of Fame
Sharapova's estimated net worth is $198Million. Serena's estimated net worth is $148.3Million.

In what universe is that difference is comprable to a Fortune 500 company versus a mom-and-pop operation? My only hope is that you're not a professional tax preparer, a CPA or math teacher.
Where did you even get these values. First of all no one even knows the true value of what players earn. Secondly for serena to be still under 150 million is ludicrous. That was an estimate that they gave her years ago and its hardly changed. She's closer to 200million
 

Vanhool

Hall of Fame
Sharapova is right, both she and Serena are passionate about tennis. Though I would say Sharapova MORE passionate of the two. Sharapova brings IT to every match...100% mental and physical effort...ala Jimmy Connors. Serena tends to pick her spots to when she will give 100%...ala Bernard Tomic. Difference is, Serena can give 75% and still win. She can spot her opponent a set, then decide to start playing...and win.

The part about them being friends is just that delightful Sugarpova humor. Hades would freeze over first. Man of Steel and Hefty Lefty would become President and Vice President of the Maria Sharapova Fan Club first. Ain't going to happen.

But, they have do have a lot in common to become friends. Tennis. Money.... Dimitrov. Both have that "witchy" attitude and personally. Sharapova is more the shade thrower, "Isn't she back in Poland already"... Serena more the, " I'll whoop your arse" type. So some common ground there.
Except that Serena was a pretty good shade thrower as well, just not lately during her elder stateswoman era.
 
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Man of steel

Hall of Fame
Sharapova is right, both she and Serena are passionate about tennis. Though I would say Sharapova MORE passionate of the two. Sharapova brings IT to every match...100% mental and physical effort...ala Jimmy Connors. Serena tends to pick her spots to when she will give 100%...ala Bernard Tomic. Difference is, Serena can give 75% and still win. She can spot her opponent a set, then decide to start playing...and win.

The part about them being friends is just that delightful Sugarpova humor. Hades would freeze over first. Man of Steel and Hefty Lefty would become President and Vice President of the Maria Sharapova Fan Club first. Ain't going to happen.

But, they have do have a lot in common to become friends. Tennis. Money.... Dimitrov. Both have that "witchy" attitude and personally. Sharapova is more the shade thrower, "Isn't she back in Poland already"... Serena more the, " I'll whoop your arse" type. So some common ground there.
I'm already the president of the sharapova fan club. Where have you been Mr. Lob.

Naa serena and Hingia are the ultimate shade throwers. Her shadiness like her career pales in comparison to serena's.
 

jm1980

Talk Tennis Guru
Not at all surprising. For male athletes, the big wins bring the big endorsements. For female athletes, it's about having the 'right' looks. Pretty, leggy, blond Kournikova (who never won a singles title) was the top-earning female athlete in endorsements before pretty, leggy blond Sharapova (who actually won titles) took over the reins.
Do you think Fed would have earned as much in endorsements if he looked like Stepanek and had Tomic's attitude?
I was speaking the ridiculous notion that Serena's net worth is somehow dwarfed by Sharapova's. While Sharapova's earning off court is substantial, it's not as if Serena is light years behind as tennisaddict would want you to believe. Apparently he's not addicted to math.

So you and others have provided, once again meritocracy only applies to some.
I believe he was just being hyperbolic. The difference is still pretty substantial, specially if you consider how much more successful Serena has been on court, and how much longer she's been playing
 

Vanhool

Hall of Fame
I'm already the president of the sharapova fan club. Where have you been Mr. Lob.

Naa serena and Hingia are the ultimate shade throwers. Her shadiness like her career pales in comparison to serena's.
I have to disagree here. Maria has earned her place in the shade throwers hof. The very carefully engineered Fly high, sing you own song episode...A for effort, even if a little forced and unnatural.

I think Hingis is GOAT shadethrower, with Maria and Serena each having legit arguments for second.

Edit: Ostapenko the new great hope!
 
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MarTennis

Semi-Pro
And she thinks telling the world all about it will help the two of them "become friends"?o_O

What's Plan B... posting the secret video she made of the incident on the Internet???:confused::confused:

"Sharing this will make me lots of money - I lost plenty, you know, with the suspension and all".... might have been more precise:cool::cool::cool:
Agreed. This is a totally strategic reveal. Meanwhile, Serena's dude is driving her around with Kendrick Lamar's Humble blasting. -there's level to this...

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Man of steel

Hall of Fame
I have to disagree here. Maria has earned her place in the shade throwers hof. The very carefully engineered Fly high, sing you own song episode...A for effort, even if a little forced and unnatural.

I think Hingis is GOAT shadethrower, with Maria and Serena each having legit arguments for second.

Edit: Ostapenko the new great hope!
Here's a good list of all some of the most famous b1tchy quotes from WTA's golden generation
http://www.tennisforum.com/12-gener...funny-wta-quotes-v2-ultimate-compilation.html
 

70後

Hall of Fame
The other weird thing is she tries to blame their lack of friendship on Serena but Maria isn't friends with anyone else on tour either. They presumably also share her passion.

Not really weird. By stressing "WE", makes herself sound equal to Serena.
 
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Deleted member 688153

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no she didn't.
"Why do you say 'best female player' instead of 'best player'?"
Yeah that's in no way not a set up. There's no way to respond to that question that doesn't court controversy. Maybe she didn't mean it, but if that's the case that's pretty incompetant of her.
 

Soianka

Hall of Fame
I basically agree with you; I guess I'm just saying: "Meh."

Sharapova can say her truth, and I'm sure that day was way bigger in her reality than Serena's. She can't not talk about the day that launched her superstardom, or the woman that both "made her" and later crushed her time and again on the cour ( Lorderena giveth and taketh away).

I also think it's obvious that Serena brings a little something extra to her matches with Maria. She seems determined to not let her win again...that's why the matches are so tense even though the outcome is all but predetermined. You guys really don't think so? Maybe she didn't have to change her game, but she does intensify her focus, which is sometimes lacking when she plays a plays other players that she is friendly with or indifferent to. That's how it looks to me anyway.

Anyway, Serena is the best of 2-3 generations and she is in a completely different class than Maria. Great danes don't worry about chihuahuas yapping and nipping at their feet, other than as a minor annoyance (OK, Maria is more than a chihuahua for sure....miniature poodle or whippet maybe?). Nothing Maria says has any real impact on Serena, so who cares? If Serena doesn't even care, why should I?

I can't get mad at Maria for telling little story...I find it amusing. If it weren't for all the weird little personal digs over the years, their whole matchup would be super dull.

I have seen videos of Serena and Maria at events sitting next to each other and laughing and joking. If Serena could eventually be friends with Hingis :eek: why not Maria?


I think Serena tries to beat everyone especially the top players. I don't think Maria has pushed Serena in any way but yes it seems she doesn't ever let herself have a completely horrible day against Maria. I think we all know if Maria managed to win one or two matches recently she'd act like a complete ******* and the media machinery would pretend they were equal rivals or even that Maria was the better player. So yes I think Serena makes it clear every time that they are not in the same league.

But I think the most important point is that if Maria never existed Serena would still be Serena with 23 or so slams.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Neither Serena nor Maria invented the circle you run around in.

Athletes and business ventures are inspired by their agents.

That's what they pay them for and neither of them were the first to do it.
People are talking in circles.

The claim was that Maria's business ventures inspired Serena's business ventures.

Clearly that is false when Serena and Venus have always had outside interests long before Maria was even a pro.

Maria was inspired by Serena in tennis and in business and not vice versa. She and her fans should be honest enough to admit that.
 
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Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Because they compete in two separate competitions and men and women never play each other.

The problem is that we talk of best player when we mean best male player.

Serena can only ever be the best female player.
"Why do you say 'best female player' instead of 'best player'?"
Yeah that's in no way not a set up. There's no way to respond to that question that doesn't court controversy. Maybe she didn't mean it, but if that's the case that's pretty incompetant of her.
 

70後

Hall of Fame
Serena never letting herself lose to Pova is overstated, imo. I would say that the reason why Pova can't get a win over Serena anymore isn't because she can't change her game, but because she did change it. Physicality is quite irrelevant against Serena. Only a better book of tennis on the day and a willingness to scrap for it like say Capriati would stand a real chance. Sharapova is a grinder like what Graf also became when Graf reached the limit of her repertoire quite early on in her career, that is to say they both depend and depended on physicality to get their opponents to unravel, unravel, just unravel. Neither had the spectrum of shots. Thus Graf had a much shorter middle career than they do now, filled with injuries, and also injury stories, because she was over relying on and over depleting her physical capital. Early Sharapova was far more like a Kvitova type. Middle career Sharapova won those dreadful terrible 3 setters by grinding and body slamming opponents into nearly a bloody mush. Post ban she now can’t stop withdrawing with injuries. How curious.
 
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70後

Hall of Fame
As noted, Serena was one of the only people other than a few loyal Russians to speak out for Pova just after the news came out. Serena is too big hearted, too generous sometimes. Empathy imo is wasted on someone like Pova.
 
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Deleted member 688153

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I really think Sharapova suffers through delusions of grandeur thinking her rivalry with Serena is great for the sport. It would be a rivalry if she would win once in a while but yeah haven't beat her in almost 15 years is really bad. Doesn't help that she keeps having personal digs at Serena as usual.
This. She thinks it's Fedal out there or something.
In reality it's like Berdych talking about his rivalry with Nadal.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
This is what Serena said:

"I think most people were happy she was upfront and very honest and showed a lot of courage to admit to what she had done and what she had neglected to look at in terms of the list at the end of the year," Williams said.

It's a very nice thing to say, but not exactly a ringing endorsement unless you compare her to your typical TW ranter who considered all that a publicity stunt.
As noted, Serena was one of the only people other than a few loyal Russians to speak out for Pova just after the news came out. Serena is too big hearted, too generous sometimes. Empathy imo is wasted on someone like Pova.
 
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Deleted member 688153

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Berdych has not won a slam, whereas Sharapova has won five.
I mean like how he gave Nads trouble for like 2-3 matches but Nadal has otherwise wiped the floor with him.

You're right though. It's easy to overlook that she has actually won five slams. She's generally so irrelevant that even I forgot that. I thought she had four.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
She is more Murray to Nadal rather than Berdych to Nadal.

The whole thread really rests on the reported reaction of Serena to her Wimbledon defeat.

People have since spun that into the fantasy that Sharapova thinks Serena fears her as the great career rival.
I mean like how he gave Nads trouble for like 2-3 matches but Nadal has otherwise wiped the floor with him.

You're right though. It's easy to overlook that she has actually won five slams. She's generally so irrelevant that even I forgot that. I thought she had four.
 

Thriller

Hall of Fame
Well she won't be making anyone cry in Cincinnati. Seems like she cannot hurt any player of note on court, now she is off the juice and I guess must have been the most heavily tested player during her ban and on her return.

Back to the day job, grubby-book selling.

Time yet to bold asterisk her entire post 2006 career?
 

Nadalgaenger

G.O.A.T.
Surprised anyone cares what the cheater Sharapova thinks or says

Forget her she is a piece of trash

She can spend her remaining days as a known cheater in the mansion she cheated for and leave us all alone
I'm not defending her but let's be honest. She's not the only male or female player that has used PEDs, and hers were legal for the decade before she was busted...
 

MajesticMoose

Hall of Fame
For some reason all I can picture is the 2 of them at a very young age playing together in a sandbox. Then as one of them builds up a nice sand castle, the other rams their hand through and proceeds to kick up sand into one's eyes.
 
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