AngieB
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Funny how people conveniently forget that. Albeit, if #Chris played in the 90's/early 00's, she wouldn't have been ranked in the top 50 because everyone would have "SABR'ed" her powder-puff serve.
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#Serena Surpasses #Evert AGAIN, Weeks as Number One (Open Era-only)
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PDJ
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PDJ
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The fabric picture you deleted was more amusing.
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Angie
PDJ
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Interviewer: So Ms Evert what do you actually think of the quilt.....
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Angie
PDJ
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16 weeks married? That's 16 weeks married more than some. Yup, add it on. What a marvellous idea. Indeed, add on all the weeks she was married. Would that make her 'top' of the open era? Possibly not. Court would probably also take this.
donquijote
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So is she not losing any points because she is not playing the rest of the year? I am not saying she's going to lose No.1 by end of the year. We're here talking about the record. She is losing 750 points from YE championships alone and those points will be very important and she can even lose No. 1 by a few points in 2016. She needs to stay No.1 all the way to Sep 2016 and beyond to break the record.
I had to explain this because you can't read and understand a comment but prefer attacking with insulting comments.
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Chadillac
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Give serena some credit, she was sleeping with a married man for a while (got her family values from daddy apparently). She should at least get .5 per week, maybe -10% for being an adulterer.
Angieb, even at chrissy's age im looking at her on the beach, not serena. Not sure why you brought looks into this.
AngieB
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Chrissy was married when she was sleeping with Greg Norman who was also married at the time. They were all friends, too. #Uncomfortable All well-publicized.
#NotJudging. Just stating facts.
Serena never slept with a married man. Do you get your information from TMZ? #GirlBye
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AngieB
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Actually the YEC, which #Serena won is worth 1500 pts.
#Serena has no chief rival in the sport #Unrivaled. Her two "supposed" rivals, the #2 and #3 players in the world, #Halep and #Sharapova couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag right now. #Halep's frame is too fraile for the type of tennis she tries playing (See Henin), thus she is injured a lot and inconsistent. #Sharapova is mending a broken heart and has a game that suffers after long absences. #Azarenka naturally walks like she has hip dysplasia like a Golden Laborador and is never healthy long enought to make a difference. Someone not Serena is going to have to play incredibly consistent and 20x better than they did this year and that's likely not happening.
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Angie
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PDJ
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Methinks you are #judging a little.....
I suspect you are rather rankled that your boy JC (Jimmy Connors right??) didn't return your quilt. Never mind. You can always make another one for your perfect, no divorces, no affairs, no #judging, God Fearing family.
How wonderfully perfect for you all.
Less so for the Everts and Williams of this world.
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SystemicAnomaly
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So instead we should decree that Serena surpasses Chrissie AGAIN with a meaningless metric (meaningless as it pertains to Evert's true dominance). If we ignore 4 years of of Evert's career, we omit a significant period where she was a dominant player. She won 4 of the last 6 slams that she played prior to the start of the WTA count. And prior to that she made it to 3 finals of the 4 slams she played. Most experts put her at #3 at the end of '73, at #1 for a good part of '74 and at #1 for all of '75 (although she is only credited with less than 2 months for '75).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_number_1_women_tennis_players#1921.E2.80.93present
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chatt_town
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That's not going to happen.
She has a problem with a number of players on any given day.
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Chadillac
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Her coach? Why do you the she showed up drunk at wimbledon, he said he was going to give his marriage another shot.
AngieB
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#Wikipedia? Really?
I've always said Weeks at Number One was a #minor because there wasn't a consistent ranking system throughout tennis history. Albeit, if you are going to credit some fictitious, invisible Weeks at Number One to #Chris, don't stop there. There were three women who easily surpass her even if you credit her these phantom Weeks at Number One. The one true measure of dominance throughout tennis history is the four ITF-sanctioned Grand Slam Events. Another area where #Serena dominates #Chris 21-18. Not to mention all the Olympic and doubles titles #Serena overshadows #Chris' career.
So, before you all turn this thread into another #Chrissy-Thon , you are just going to have to accept the fact that #Serena is ever bit the champion #Chris wasn't. I'm sure #Serena will give #Chris a shout-out when #Chris retires from the public view in the next five years. But then maybe #Serena should write #Chris an "Open Letter" about what #Chris should have done to make her career a better one historically. #Dust.
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AngieB
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Top Ten Excuses Why Chris Evert Wasn't Greater In Tennis History:
1. Weren't enough Weeks in the Year.
2. The Olympic Committee waited until she retired before allowing tennis in the Olympics.
3. Jimmy Connors was a distraction for her.
4. Her wood racquet head size was too small for her big serve.
5. Martina Navratilova peaked too soon.
6. Chris thought she was supposed to snort Lipton Iced Tea instead of steep it.
7. She worked out with Jane Fonda instead of Nancy Lieberman
8. Renee Richards wasn't her coach.
9. Steffi Graf began playing too soon.
10. Burt Reynolds wasn't nominated for an Oscar until the 1990's.
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Angie
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You can't be serious. Your own thread say 'Open Era Only', and if you omit Chris entire career that was in the open era then it's a self-defeating thread created by you. Helen Wills was from the 20s, well before the open era so how is that a double standard?
Please, have some perspective.
PDJ
G.O.A.T.
That's actually rather funny.
Humour a side, she will be remembered as one of the greatest players of all time. And one of the greatest sportsmen of all time. Not a bad legacy.
Should she fade away from "public life in 5 years" I doubt she will ever be forgotten: there's a reason your beloved International Hall of Fame saw fit to make her their sole inductee (never happened before or since).
I wonder if it will happen again?
AngieB
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#MrWiki, why don't you post your Wikipedia list of "Weeks at Number One" which should settle the debate. #DustYou can't be serious. Your own thread say 'Open Era Only', and if you omit Chris entire career that was in the open era then it's a self-defeating thread created by you. Helen Wills was from the 20s, well before the open era so how is that a double standard?
Please, have some perspective.
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RF-18
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It's a AngieB-phenomenon. You have to be the greatest in order to be something in sports.
Evert is therefore Nothing and No one Will remember her. I'm sure she is at home sobbing that she couldn't be more historic with the beautiful house she has and all the money and titles and Fame.
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SystemicAnomaly
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Why not? It only serves to name some of the tennis expert/historians who regarded Chris as #1 prior to the official WTA listing. Their opinion reflects Evert's accomplishments in the "the four ITF-sanctioned Grand Slam Events" (and other tournaments) from '73 thru '75. But then this wiki link really wasn't the meat of my post -- that "Weeks at #1" is a meaningless comparison of Serena to Chrissie. Why not speak to that instead?
And yet you chose to use this minor stat in your thread title to emphasize Serena's accomplishments over Chris' accomplishments. It is not really a meaningful or valid comparison.
And I'm not really interested in bolstering or inflating Evert's greatness in tennis history. It doesn't need to be inflated. Note: posters might be inclined to turn this thread into a Chrissy-Thon most likely to offset your Chrissie-bashing.
PDJ
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To be honest it's not that difficult given her argument which is based less on facts and more her odd dislike for her fellow countrywoman "Chris America".
It's not to be taken seriously as I learnt the hard way
AngieB
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Au contraire'
The same tennis "experts/historians" were ranking players for decades, however, those players rankings are eviscerated in this forum by the Open Era zealots who will not credit, Lenglen, Wills-Moody, BJK, or Court's undervalued similar dominance. I was simply bowing to consensus and only taking into consideration Weeks at Number One during the Open Era by the WTA Computer housed in Chrissy's bedroom in Florida. However, now the same individuals have flip-flopped their support of the rankings, because #Serena is challenging the top. Those who have a natural and embedded disdain for #Serena even tried to discredit the same "Weeks at Number One" data point that they used to wave to the world as the gold standard in tennis history when #Serena's weeks were lower than #Chris'. See, the dysfunctional double-standard, hypocritical vomitus continues to be hurled #Serena's way.
The reality-being, if you took into consideration #Wikipedia's tennis experts and historians (oxymoron) account of rankings, decades prior, #Chris would be further down the list historically. If you take the modern WTA Computer rankings at face value, #Chris still loses in a similar regard. #Serena has already surpassed #Chris in the most important matrix, the #ITF-sanctioned Grand Slam events. Now, #Serena is passing her along #MinorHighway as well.
#Chris had her day historically. #Serena is passing her historically, which ruffles the feather of her more adamant fans (even those from across the Atlantic). That Lipton Tea #Chris enjoyed so much continues to be loved like Kool-Aid in the land of Elizabeth.
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Angie
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PDJ
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So many words to say........ so little. Probably best to stick to posting in French.... it's briefer.
AngieB
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I like the French. They aided us in so many ways during the Revolutionary days. They also gave tennis Suzanne Lenglen, the most notable European women's tennis champions besides Steffi Graf.So many words to say........ so little. Probably best to stick to posting in French.... it's briefer.
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Angie
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PDJ
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I also like the French. You know why.
I'm intrigued, however, that you refer to Lenglen in the plural. I guess she was that good.
I applaud your French, your English, however, .........
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