Serena--too heavy, injury prone and unfocused

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Coria

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Serena should know by now that she's too heavy to be able to sustain top play into her mid to late 20's--let alone her thirties. Too much pounding on her joints. Too much unnecessary muscle mass and FAT--especially in chest, rear and thighs. Somebody will say "that's just her body type." That's bull. Yes, she'll always be solid and muscular, but her body fat percentage is definitely up there.

She is a great talent and a great mental competitor, but her lack of commitment and focus on her tennis is becoming her undoing. Her results over the last 2 years have significantly fallen and will continue. She was very lucky to win the Australian.

She is at least 15, if not 20 pounds overweight. At 23, she's not even moving as well as she did 2 years ago. That's ridiculous. All of this other crap she's into and her pathetic ego of wanting to be "all things" (actress, fashion queen, clothes designer, etc). It has caught up to her. She has not been anywhere near dominant for quite a while now. She's always injured. She's continually overweight. Her strokes are no better now than 3 years ago. She's not improving and is demonstrating to the tennis world that her one time prediction that she will be the "greatest ever" is a joke. She can't shine Martina's, Steffi's and Chris's shoes. She will be fortunate to win another major--unless she cuts out all of this other nonsense, gets in peak condition and focuses on tennis. She also needs an attitude adjustment and less ego.

Being 20, 21, 22, her great talent and her toughness--that's what allowed her to get away with a less than champion's approach to greatness. Now, her approach to the game in the last few years is becoming her undoing. She continually makes 35-50 unforced errors per match. She continually has to struggle greatly to beat far lesser talented players. She's always complaining about not playing well.

Maybe she'll finally wake up, realize the talent she's wasting and realize that her predicted place of being the greatest is not even close to reality. Right now, she's not even one of the 7 or 8 greatest of all time.
 
Yeah she has been pulling out of many events. I think she needs to lose wight, as the excess muscle may be causing injury problems.
 
Durability is also a mark of a true champion. It speaks of a player's fitness level. Granted, there are athletes who can't always help it. Grant Hill in basketball is a good example.

But with Serena, I guarantee most of her injuries would be gone if her fitness regimen and focus were what they should be. It could start with plan of dropping 15-20 pounds, getting leaner muscle mass and doing more flexibility work.
 
According to Serena she has lost weight. That is what she said in one of her interviews at the AO(if I remember correctly).
 
She is listed at 130 pounds, Justine at 132. Serena looks bigger to me than Justine. I think Serena goes around 190 and has always enjoyed and always will enjoy buffet!
Least she is number 1 in one thing, biggest girl on the tour!
 
130 pounds!!! Proof enough that she is under a delusional ego trip.

Time to land on planet earth and get your giant ego in check Serena.
 
Last time I saw her up close, she looked HUGE. I mean, humangous. When she turned around I realised that I was looking at the biggest behind of a woman I have ever seen. She could definitely use some weightloss.
 
thing is, is it fat, or muscle. im inclidned to conisder that if i were to wrestle her, she'd beat the crap out of me. if i were to play her in tennis, she'd crush me there too. this all leads me to beleiv e that i shouldnt be pointing fingers at her, and i should wisely just watch her play, rahter than call her fat while she does it.
 
Serena needs to get back to what her weight was at around Wimbledon 2002 when she beat her sister. That is good enough for her imho.
 
As if she is the same weight as JHH, that is a load of ****. DO they weigh in the people at the AO or do the players just tell them?
 
federer_nadal said:
As if she is the same weight as JHH, that is a load of ****. DO they weigh in the people at the AO or do the players just tell them?
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Tell them. e.g. Hewitt claims to be 5'11".
 
The listed weights for WTA players have ALWAYS been a joke. Davenport at her heaviest (remember that?) was listed at 135!! Well that would make her current weight 90lbs. And Seles was listed at 130 throughout her career...puuuleeze. But then again the men's heights are sometimes a bit suspect.....esp. the shorties. I have seen Ollie Rochus listed at 5'6"....and I stood near him at the USOpen...no friggin way. But poor Rochus can put some Tom Cruise "lifts" in his tennis shoes and still be a shrimp....Serena has no excuse.
 
Interesting comparison; Marcelo Rios was listed at 135 lb. when he first entered the tour and the guy is shorter than Serena, plus skinny as a rail when he first started. Even after filling out in his later years to about 155-160 he still looks skinnier than SW.
 
She is a big girl....

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If she is 130... I am 160. I was 170 playing HS Tennis...:-) Go about 190 now.. she is at least 165-170... to be sure! Heck her chest is 30 lbs or so.

Have a good one!

Steve
 
What if she's reading this? if she is, the finger's probably going into the throat by now...

and yeah, she's kinda big... and by kinda big, I mean too much junk in the trunk, too many things hangin on the rack, too much crap in the thighs, but hey, look at the bright side. Her arms are a good size..
 
SteveI said:
If she is 130... I am 160. I was 170 playing HS Tennis...:-) Go about 190 now.. she is at least 165-170... to be sure!
Have a good one!

Steve
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SteveO,

I was 170 in HS as well, and around 190 now, and Ms. Serena is way thicker than me. My goodness, that girl is stout!

Venus lists her weight over 160. I've said Serena has been pushing 200 for quite awhile.
 
Coria, she has 7 slams and she is only 23. That is pretty darn good as much as I dont care for the girl. She is so outrageously talented she gets away with sluggish work ethic and commitment, and focus, it sucks but it is life.
 
The ways she looks is trully an aschame for the women professional tennis, but seh just keep winning and is currently number 3 in the world. We just need to put 3 out of 5 in Grandslam events and 9 Master series with the final also 3 out of 5 to improve the conditioning in women tennis. Too much big, fat, junky .... running out there lead by Serena. My wish would be that not only the best talents will be in the top of the game in Women Tennis (Davenport, Williiams), but also a great athlete and a great role model.
 
K. Wilson Moose said:
SteveO,

I was 170 in HS as well, and around 190 now, and Ms. Serena is way thicker than me. My goodness, that girl is stout!

Venus lists her weight over 160. I've said Serena has been pushing 200 for quite awhile.
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I'd call her weight at around a deuce...maybe deuce-and-a-half.
 
Serena got a belly ring. Well it really ain't a belly ring, it's a hitch. They use it to get her away from the buffett.

Get 'er done!
 
Oh K. Wilson Moose why did you have to post THAT picture..........i'll surely have nightmares tonight!

You say "too much time spent on fashion design career..............................I say "maybe more time needed to be spent on learning fashion design"
 
Phil said:
I'd call her weight at around a deuce...maybe deuce-and-a-half.
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Carefull Phil........ :) Gee and me being the no-brainer of this forum and I even understood that, and TOTALLY agree
 
Coria said:
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She is a great talent and a great mental competitor, but her lack of commitment and focus on her tennis is becoming her undoing. Her results over the last 2 years have significantly fallen and will continue. She was very lucky to win the Australian.
Right now, she's not even one of the 7 or 8 greatest of all time.
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She has fallen all the way from #1 to #4. Hardly unprecedented.
I haven't seen anything in this thread that wasn't basically said about Navratilova early in her career.
I'm trying to think of somebody who WAS one of the 7 or 8 greatest by age 23.
.....Mo Connolly. That's it.
I think her injuries are the biggest problem.
 
Camilio Pascual said:
I haven't seen anything in this thread that wasn't basically said about Navratilova early in her career.
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Good point about Navratilova, but I think the situation is different. Navratilova spent her teens and early 20's as a talented but "chunky" player before making the decision to dedicate herself to fitness. Then she began to dominate. Serena experienced much earlier success and has already had a period of domination. The question is whether she is willing to make the commitment to fitness necessary to get back to dominating the tour. I agree that her talent alone will keep her in the top 5 and probably win a few more slams along the way, but to me her "best" years are behind her unless she rededicates herself to the game.

Her role model should be Andre Agassi. His focus on fitness gave him the confidence to be patient during rallies and really work the ball and the opponent. Serena has the talent to hit her groundstrokes at 70% like Agassi does without missing but still have them put pressure on the opponent. She has the footspeed (assuming she gets in better shape) to run balls down and frustrate an opponent. Finally she has a huge serve that she can use to get plenty of free points. She could be a female combination of Sampras and Agassi. Will she? Probably not...
 
Basically, if she ever wants to dominate tennis, she needs to lose weight, lose the attitude, lose the sexy clothes on a beastly woman, and concentrate on playing better. I don't think she has what it takes.
 
johnmcc516 said:
Basically, if she ever wants to dominate tennis, she needs to lose weight, lose the attitude, lose the sexy clothes on a beastly woman, and concentrate on playing better. I don't think she has what it takes.
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You know what? I disagree. I think she definetly has what it takes, she couldn't have come from Compton to where she is if she didn't. She and Venus both have what it takes. What she, and Venus to a large extent, is lacking is motivation. Serena doesn't play for about 6 months, she enters the Australian Open and wins it. That's hardly an indictment of her physical abilities going downhill.

Sorry about the semantics. I understand what you're saying and I don't think Serena will ever put forth the effort required to dominate women's tennis like she did. She has too many other distractions. She can still win a Slam a year without really trying. If the Russians or Belgians catch/pass her, what does she care? She's getting older, she has other interests, and more money than God.
 
Camilio Pascual said:
She has fallen all the way from #1 to #4. Hardly unprecedented.
I haven't seen anything in this thread that wasn't basically said about Navratilova early in her career.
I'm trying to think of somebody who WAS one of the 7 or 8 greatest by age 23.
.....Mo Connolly. That's it.
I think her injuries are the biggest problem.
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Monica Seles had just as much claim to being one of the 7 or 8 greatest by 19, as Serena has now at 23. If you go by slam wins alone, then both could be out of it. If you combine their number of slam wins, with their sheer dominating stretch, both could be included, but Seles higher with her two straight 3-slam years, even with not winning Wimbledon. So Seles and Connoly, not just Connoly. Other than that I agree. :p
 
Rabbit said:
She and Venus both have what it takes. What she, and Venus to a large extent, is lacking is motivation. Serena doesn't play for about 6 months, she enters the Australian Open and wins it. That's hardly an indictment of her physical abilities going downhill.
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Agree, they are both really talented but no longer focused, too distracted. If Serena would dedicate herself to tennis and training again, like Davenport for example, she may just dominate again. However, I don't think that will happen.

On a side note, if the sisters stop winning majors, I don't think many will care about their clothing design or acting aspirations. Also, it is true that they may be so wealthy at this point that they don't really care. Who knows?
 
I keep trying to re-calculate that 135 Serena claims in her WTA bio. I was never real good at that metric thing but, she's gotta be talkin' kilos, right? I wish my late Lithuanian grandmother, was still with us, to help with that metric conversion.

But should Nana have seen Miss Serena, she would surely have commented "MY GOT, SHE BEEG VUMEN. SHE MAKE SHOTPUT?".
 
Negative. If she was talking kilos, then she weigh 297 in poundage. Wait....maybe you have a point there.
 
federerhoogenbandfan said:
Monica Seles had just as much claim to being one of the 7 or 8 greatest by 19, as Serena has now at 23. If you go by slam wins alone, then both could be out of it. If you combine their number of slam wins, with their sheer dominating stretch, both could be included, but Seles higher with her two straight 3-slam years, even with not winning Wimbledon. So Seles and Connoly, not just Connoly. Other than that I agree. :p
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Don't forget Graf (Born 1969) -

4 Australian Open Championships (1988, '89, '90, '94); 6 French Open Titles (1987, '88, '93, '95, '96, '99); 7 Wimbledon Championships (1988, '89, '91, '92, '93, '95, '96); and 5 US Open Championships (1988, '89, '93, '95, '96).

Including 11 majors at age 23, 15 majors at age 25, and a Golden Slam at age 19.
 
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