Serena Williams Hospitalized With Blood Clot Issue

Tennisisgod said:
overweight is a main issue of her problems
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Serena suffered a pulmonary embolism, which means a blood clot traveled from her leg to her lungs, causing some of her lung tissue to die. The notion that her weight had anything to do with it is ridiculous...it's not like she's morbidly obese with a sedentary lifestyle.

Here's hoping her career isn't finished, which would be a terrible loss to professional tennis.
 
Hapless said:
Serena suffered a pulmonary embolism, which means a blood clot traveled from her leg to her lungs, causing some of her lung tissue to die. The notion that her weight had anything to do with it is ridiculous...it's not like she's morbidly obese with a sedentary lifestyle.

Here's hoping her career isn't finished, which would be a terrible loss to professional tennis.
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hello hapless, I just gave my comment on her picture in the link. Yap! I also hope her become healthier than ever:)
 
jerriy said:
Contrary to media reports and speculations, according to a doctor it hasn't been established AT ALL what caused Serena's embolism/lung blood clot originated. Everybody assumes it's cuz of being overweight or from immobility in her casted leg but that conclusion is premature. It's up to the doctors in the coming time to figure out what caused it. Keep in mind that blood clot has a myriad of causes.
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Two surgeries and then a long cross-country flight may have contributed to the occurence of the clot. I got a superficial clot in my right calf this summer; nothing as serious as what Serena had (mine was what's called thrombophlebitis, just in my calf; it didn't travel up to my lungs, as it wasn't in a primary vein). It happened after a summer of two long flights (from DC to Alaska and later to Las Vegas) with surgery sandwiched in between. So, between her lack of playing and conditioning, the surgeries, and long flights, that could have caused it. (According to my doctor, though, weight can be a factor - more for women than for men.)
 
May I suggest to Serena to buy a Table Tennis table and play on it? It is low impact, keeps her moving, and her reflexes sharp, while she convalesces.
 
adidasman said:
Two surgeries and then a long cross-country flight may have contributed to the occurence of the clot. I got a superficial clot in my right calf this summer; nothing as serious as what Serena had (mine was what's called thrombophlebitis, just in my calf; it didn't travel up to my lungs, as it wasn't in a primary vein). It happened after a summer of two long flights (from DC to Alaska and later to Las Vegas) with surgery sandwiched in between. So, between her lack of playing and conditioning, the surgeries, and long flights, that could have caused it. (According to my doctor, though, weight can be a factor - more for women than for men.)
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So then the Oscars could have caused it :shock:

After all if i remember correctly Serena was being treated and operated last week in New York... then she went on a flight to LA to catch the Oscar party and what-not.

So maybe you could be right, adidasman. Maybe it's never a good idea to have surgery in NYC and then immediately hop on a long distance flight (even if first class)
 
jerriy said:
Contrary to media reports and speculations, according to a doctor it hasn't been established AT ALL what caused Serena's embolism/where the lung blood clot originated. Everybody assumes it's cuz of being overweight or from immobility in her casted leg but that conclusion is premature. It's up to the doctors in the coming time to figure out what caused it. Keep in mind that blood clot has a myriad of causes.
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I don't think any reasonable person with half a brain who is not blinded by sheer bigotry thinks she got a PE from being "overweight."

Serena Williams is in better shape that most people.
 
People used to be able to walk around and stretch their legs on a plane. All that became no-no after 9/11. Now you got to pretend to go to the bathroom if you want to stretch, and if they are vacant, you can't linger around.
 
My doctor said that if you cannot stay in good shape, it’s better to be skinny than fat. The body has to work harder, all the organs including the heart has to work hard on a bigger person. He’s right b/c most skinny people tends to live longer and have a healthier life.
 
Soianka said:
I don't think any reasonable person with half a brain who is not blinded by sheer bigotry thinks she got a PE from being "overweight."

Serena Williams is in better shape that most people.
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I would give anything to read comments on this forum regarding the Williams sisters that don't mention bigotry. How does saying she's overweight - and she is pretty big, regardless of her skin color - have anything to do with bigotry??? This is why there is never a rational thread on here regarding the Williams sisters. Guys like you will never allow it to happen.
 
Tennisisgod said:
Yap, I know that. But for my standard, she will be looking great if she reduce some weights :)
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I agree - she has no problem developing muscle but if she really worked to get very fit - more lean, more cardio - it would be amazing to see. Her mental toughness, self-belief, physical strength and tennis skills PLUS additional quickness and stamina... It's hard to put a limit on how dominant she could be/could have been, even when she's already accomplished so much. On the other hand, it could be argued that she's been as fit as she needed to be to play the amount of tennis that she WANTED to play.

At any rate, I hope she's able to recover from this and come back to the tour, and end her career on her own terms at some point. This is not the way you want a career to end, and as long as she's not there, it feels sort of like it did when Monica was absent after being stabbed. You wonder who would have won if she was there. It's not really fair to the other players to say so, but it's the natural reaction sometimes. Especially with a player who, more than anyone else I can think of, seems to be able to walk onto any court, in any condition, under any circumstance, and have a good chance to win it all.
 
adidasman said:
I would give anything to read comments on this forum regarding the Williams sisters that don't mention bigotry. How does saying she's overweight - and she is pretty big, regardless of her skin color - have anything to do with bigotry??? This is why there is never a rational thread on here regarding the Williams sisters. Guys like you will never allow it to happen.
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Because you'd have to be some kind of dimwit to suggest that Serena Williams got a pulmonary embolism from being overweight as if she is morbidly obese or something.

I am sure she would not even be considered "overweight" by any medical professional.
 
Soianka said:
Because you'd have to be some kind of dimwit to suggest that Serena Williams got a pulmonary embolism from being overweight as if she is morbidly obese or something.

I am sure she would not even be considered "overweight" by any medical professional.
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Huh? Right, Serena and Twiggy (the model) are indistinguishable! Are we looking at the same person here? She is not obese but she sure is not slim.
With that said, I don't think that is the reason for her blood clot as she is obviously a somewhat fit person.
 
Soianka said:
Because you'd have to be some kind of dimwit to suggest that Serena Williams got a pulmonary embolism from being overweight as if she is morbidly obese or something.

I am sure she would not even be considered "overweight" by any medical professional.
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She's just large-boned with lots of junk in her trunk :mrgreen:

:shock:

serena-williams-ass.jpg
 
cc0509 said:
Huh? Right, Serena and Twiggy (the model) are indistinguishable! Are we looking at the same person here? She is not obese but she sure is not slim.
With that said, I don't think that is the reason for her blood clot as she is obviously a somewhat fit person.
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Where did I refer to Serena as "slim"....and since when is being an underweight model from the 1960's the ideal healthy female body type.

I stand by my post. You'd have to be either not terribly bright or very biased to suggest that Serena has a weight problem to the degree that it is causing her medical issues as if she was a 200 or 300 pound morbidly obese woman.

She is a young and fit world class athlete who is in better shape than 99% of the population.

To read some of your posts, Serena is a candidate for a gastric bypass. Her weight is causing medical problems for her, LOL. Seriously...what are you all smoking?
 
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Soianka said:
Because you'd have to be some kind of dimwit to suggest that Serena Williams got a pulmonary embolism from being overweight as if she is morbidly obese or something.

I am sure she would not even be considered "overweight" by any medical professional.
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So someone could be a "dimwit" about such things without being a racist - right? Why must you automatically head down that road???
 
adidasman said:
So someone could be a "dimwit" about such things without being a racist - right? Why must you automatically head down that road???
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I don't believe I called anyone a racist or mentioned racism or anything of the sort.

I mentioned biased posting. And it is true. Some of the things posted here are so absurd that either the poster is really lacking in intellectual capabilities or is so biased (in his or her dislike for a certain tennis player) that they cannot make a reasonable judgment.

Just as some of the negative posts against Nadal, Federer, Henin, etc....are excessively negative because of bias (i.e., coming from people who dislike those players and are not making objective assessments of particular facts).

However, if racism is at work here....people should not be afraid to mention it.
 
Soianka said:
I don't believe I called anyone a racist or mentioned racism or anything of the sort.

I mentioned biased posting. And it is true. Some of the things posted here are so absurd that either the poster is really lacking in intellectual capabilities or is so biased (in his or her dislike for a certain tennis player) that they cannot make a reasonable judgment.

Just as some of the negative posts against Nadal, Federer, Henin, etc....are excessively negative because of bias (i.e., coming from people who dislike those players and are not making objective assessments of particular facts).

However, if racism is at work here....people should not be afraid to mention it.
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Here's what you said: "I don't think any reasonable person with half a brain who is not blinded by sheer bigotry thinks she got a PE from being 'overweight.'" I'd say the phrase "sheer bigotry" would fall into the "racism or anything of the sort" category, wouldn't you? (The word "bigotry" doesn't explicitly imply racism, of course, but it's certainly used that way in most cases. If that's not how you intended it, I stand corrected.)
 
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Soianka said:
Where did I refer to Serena as "slim"....and since when is being an underweight model from the 1960's the ideal healthy female body type.

I stand by my post. You'd have to be either not terribly bright or very biased to suggest that Serena has a weight problem to the degree that it is causing her medical issues as if she was a 200 or 300 pound morbidly obese woman.

She is a young and fit world class athlete who is in better shape than 99% of the population.

To read some of your posts, Serena is a candidate for a gastric bypass. Her weight is causing medical problems for her, LOL. Seriously...what are you all smoking?
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I specifically said in my post that I don't think Serena's weight has anything to do with her medical situation. I don't think she is obese and I am sure she is somewhat fit but when I look at her, I don't consider her to be an ideal in any sense of the word. We all see differently.

I agree with you that the anorexic model look you see in the fashion magazines is not always the best or healthiest choice either, but, in our society that is considered the ideal right or wrong. Serena Williams' body is not considered the ideal. That is just a fact.

Besides, I already stated in a few posts above that taking PED's increases the risk of blood clots. Not to say that has anything to do with Serena of course. Just throwing it out there. :wink:
 
cc0509 said:
I specifically said in my post that I don't think Serena's weight has anything to do with her medical situation. I don't think she is obese and I am sure she is somewhat fit but when I look at her, I don't consider her to be an ideal in any sense of the word. We all see differently.

I agree with you that the anorexic model look you see in the fashion magazines is not always the best or healthiest choice either, but, in our society that is considered the ideal right or wrong. Serena Williams' body is not considered the ideal. That is just a fact.

Besides, I already stated in a few posts above that taking PED's increases the risk of blood clots. Not to say that has anything to do with Serena of course. Just throwing it out there. :wink:
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I am talking about ideal healthy weight from a medical standpoint not from what some people in the fashion industry consider a beauty ideal. Many of those models are not at healthy weights and are indeed at risk for medical issues due to their low weights and unhealthy lifestyles...as opposed to Serena who is indeed a healthy ideal in terms of her fitness and (I assume) healthy lifestyle. I assume she eats well and exercises frequently and probably would pass all measures of fitness with flying colors.

If you want to believe she is on performance enhancing drugs because you think she is too awesome to compete so well naturally...okay, believe it. No one can stop you.
 
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cc0509 said:
I specifically said in my post that I don't think Serena's weight has anything to do with her medical situation. I don't think she is obese and I am sure she is somewhat fit but when I look at her, I don't consider her to be an ideal in any sense of the word. We all see differently.

I agree with you that the anorexic model look you see in the fashion magazines is not always the best or healthiest choice either, but, in our society that is considered the ideal right or wrong. Serena Williams' body is not considered the ideal. That is just a fact.

Besides, I already stated in a few posts above that taking PED's increases the risk of blood clots. Not to say that has anything to do with Serena of course. Just throwing it out there. :wink:
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Could PED's have lead to her anger issue a few years ago at the US Open.? I do hope she gets better and plays again. The womens tour is missing her intensity and fight.
 
Soianka said:
I am talking about ideal healthy weight from a medical standpoint not from what some people in the fashion industry consider a beauty ideal. Many of those models are not at healthy weights and are indeed at risk for medical issues due to their low weights and unhealthy lifestyles...as opposed to Serena who is indeed a healthy ideal in terms of her fitness and (I assume) healthy lifestyle. I assume she eats well and exercises frequently and probably would pass all measures of fitness with flying colors.

If you want to believe she is on performance enhancing drugs because you think she is too awesome to compete so well naturally...okay, believe it. No one can stop you.
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You lose all credibility. Serena’s size is not an ideal in terms of good health and longevity. Most people live longer are slim, not big. Overweight people most likely to use crutches, and wheelchair during their elder year. And study show that overweight people likely to have more heart problem(b/c it has to work harder). Their health are at more risk than slimmer people.
 
TMF said:
You lose all credibility. Serena’s size is not an ideal in terms of good health and longevity. Most people live longer are slim, not big. Overweight people most likely to use crutches, and wheelchair during their elder year. And study show that overweight people likely to have more heart problem(b/c it has to work harder). Their health are at more risk than slimmer people.
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Except Serena is not overweight.

She may not be "slim" but she is not overweight.

I am sure she could beat you and I and everyone else here in every fitness test.
 
Soianka said:
If you want to believe she is on performance enhancing drugs because you think she is too awesome to compete so well naturally...okay, believe it. No one can stop you.
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I dont believe her to be on PED. She is far from one I would accuse of it simply because I have seen her repeatedly exhausted after a few rounds and long sets.

dirkpitt38 said:
Could PED's have lead to her anger issue a few years ago at the US Open.? I do hope she gets better and plays again. The womens tour is missing her intensity and fight.
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Roid rage is a myth.

adidasman said:
Is that picture real???? Wow. That's more than a lot of junk in her trunk. That's a whole junkyard.
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Its not real. Its a different black woman. Apparently people think they all look the same. :)

Soianka said:
She may not be "slim" but she is not overweight.
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We can be friends.

In no way is she fat at all. People who think she is need to get off the fashion sites. Twigs are not ideal or attractive. She has curves deal with it.
 
adidasman said:
Two surgeries and then a long cross-country flight may have contributed to the occurence of the clot. I got a superficial clot in my right calf this summer; nothing as serious as what Serena had (mine was what's called thrombophlebitis, just in my calf; it didn't travel up to my lungs, as it wasn't in a primary vein). It happened after a summer of two long flights (from DC to Alaska and later to Las Vegas) with surgery sandwiched in between. So, between her lack of playing and conditioning, the surgeries, and long flights, that could have caused it. (According to my doctor, though, weight can be a factor - more for women than for men.)
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yes, yes, that's why i watch over my weight very carefully:)
 
I wish young Serena good luck and a speedy recovery, feelings I'm sure the majority of tennis fans share.


TMF said:
You lose all credibility. Serena’s size is not an ideal in terms of good health and longevity. Most people live longer are slim, not big. Overweight people most likely to use crutches, and wheelchair during their elder year. And study show that overweight people likely to have more heart problem(b/c it has to work harder). Their health are at more risk than slimmer people.
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In the same constructive spirit, your posts indicate a distinct lack of fiber in your diet.
 
cghipp said:
I agree - she has no problem developing muscle but if she really worked to get very fit - more lean, more cardio - it would be amazing to see. Her mental toughness, self-belief, physical strength and tennis skills PLUS additional quickness and stamina... It's hard to put a limit on how dominant she could be/could have been, even when she's already accomplished so much. On the other hand, it could be argued that she's been as fit as she needed to be to play the amount of tennis that she WANTED to play.

At any rate, I hope she's able to recover from this and come back to the tour, and end her career on her own terms at some point. This is not the way you want a career to end, and as long as she's not there, it feels sort of like it did when Monica was absent after being stabbed. You wonder who would have won if she was there. It's not really fair to the other players to say so, but it's the natural reaction sometimes. Especially with a player who, more than anyone else I can think of, seems to be able to walk onto any court, in any condition, under any circumstance, and have a good chance to win it all.
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I like your post a lot. Honestly, to some extend, i really believe that her career goes down a bit because of her health condition. As we know that, sport career isn't long enough for each player. Also, Monica's event make me wonder players' integrity among themselves. Everyone knows "rumors" is not very acceptable for any celebrities...
 
TMF said:
You lose all credibility. Serena’s size is not an ideal in terms of good health and longevity. Most people live longer are slim, not big. Overweight people most likely to use crutches, and wheelchair during their elder year. And study show that overweight people likely to have more heart problem(b/c it has to work harder). Their health are at more risk than slimmer people.
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None apply to Williams as she appears in the most recent pics or video, as she is not obese by any measure or in any danger considering the muscle to fat ratio she normally carries. Not that it needs to be said (but I will), but I noticed you did not provide any facts to support your claims.
 
Soianka said:
Where did I refer to Serena as "slim"....and since when is being an underweight model from the 1960's the ideal healthy female body type.

I stand by my post. You'd have to be either not terribly bright or very biased to suggest that Serena has a weight problem to the degree that it is causing her medical issues as if she was a 200 or 300 pound morbidly obese woman.

She is a young and fit world class athlete who is in better shape than 99% of the population.

To read some of your posts, Serena is a candidate for a gastric bypass. Her weight is causing medical problems for her, LOL. Seriously...what are you all smoking?
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Wise post, Soianka. Others will use anything (no matter how thin in concept) to attack SW. Obesity will not allow her to move as fast and as long as she does in any given match. Obesity will not produce the obvious muscular development seen on her body, nor will obesity allow a professional tennis player to last for the same amout of years (having the endurance to win her collective tournament victories matches which means everthing up to and including finals).

...but do not be too surprised if some use her AO condition of a few years ago as "proof" of SW being overweight throughout her entire career.

Logic escapes many around here, so false body images, or any other type of desperation post will appear just to say anything negative.
 
maverick66 said:
I dont believe her to be on PED. She is far from one I would accuse of it simply because I have seen her repeatedly exhausted after a few rounds and long sets.
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Um, okay, she just "naturally" looks like Arnold Schwarzenegger in his Mr. Olympia bodybuilding days I guess. You keep believing! :)

Re her weight, she may be fit but she is not even close to resembling any "ideal" I have ever heard of.
 
THUNDERVOLLEY said:
None apply to Williams as she appears in the most recent pics or video, as she is not obese by any measure or in any danger considering the muscle to fat ratio she normally carries. Not that it needs to be said (but I will), but I noticed you did not provide any facts to support your claims.
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Serena would be healthier is she shred off some pounds. Anyone who disagree with that is ignorant. Even if she is fully fit right now(which she's far from it), that doesn't take away the past years when she was very heavy.
 
cc0509 said:
Um, okay, she just "naturally" looks like Arnold Schwarzenegger in his Mr. Olympia bodybuilding days I guess. You keep believing! :)
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If you think she is anything close to a male bodybuilder you need to look again. Even in her hay day when she was muscular she wasnt in 1/10 of a bodybuilder. Your comment has no validity at all.
 
TMF said:
Serena would be healthier is she shred off some pounds.
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This was your empty diagnosis:

Overweight people most likely to use crutches, and wheelchair during their elder year. And study show that overweight people likely to have more heart problem(b/c it has to work harder). Their health are at more risk than slimmer people.
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Aside from that bit of unsubstantiated nonsense, you did not provide even an ounce of evidence to say:

My doctor said that if you cannot stay in good shape, it’s better to be skinny than fat. The body has to work harder, all the organs including the heart has to work hard on a bigger person. He’s right b/c most skinny people tends to live longer and have a healthier life
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The subject in question is not fat, as the muscle to fat ratio of SW is not in any recognized danger zone. Even a layman--using the most recent photo and videos of Williams can see she is not in any danger due to alleged excess weight, so your comment quoted able is irrelevant.

Overweight people most likely to use crutches, and wheelchair during their elder year.
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...which does not apply to Williams.

Even if she is fully fit right now(which she's far from it)
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According to you? So you are now an expert on the (ignored) differences in human physiology enough to be able to apply some mythical standard? I can only imagine the people you use as the model of health.

that doesn't take away the past years when she was very heavy.
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...which is irrelevant, as we are dealing with her current medical and physical condition--a state where excess body weight is not an issue.
 
THUNDERVOLLEY said:
This was your empty diagnosis:



Aside from that bit of unsubstantiated nonsense, you did not provide even an ounce of evidence to say:



The subject in question is not fat, as the muscle to fat ratio of SW is not in any recognized danger zone. Even a layman--using the most recent photo and videos of Williams can see she is not in any danger due to alleged excess weight, so your comment quoted able is irrelevant.



...which does not apply to Williams.



According to you? So you are now an expert on the (ignored) differences in human physiology enough to be able to apply some mythical standard? I can only imagine the people you use as the model of health.



...which is irrelevant, as we are dealing with her current medical and physical condition--a state where excess body weight is not an issue.
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Only TMF would make an issue about Serena being fat. :lol: She cannot change her body figure just by losing weight. Besides she has won 13 slams with her body so she clearly does not need to look like Sharapova or Jankovic.
 
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