Serena Williams Hospitalized With Blood Clot Issue

Spin Doctor

Professional
If Serena was fit for the game, she would have a durable career, not up and down due to injury. Serena had multiple surgeries, skipped/withdrew many tournaments. Her weight was killing her knee! Had she was half as fit as Chris Evert, no question she would have been more accomplished.

You cannot escape from gravity.

Serena has 13 major singles titles!! And you're saying her career "sucked" because she was overweight? Anyone on tour would give up a vital organ to have the career Serena has had.

Serena has been a pro from the age of 14 until 29, winning slam titles from the age of 17 to 28. And you're saying she has not had a "durable career"? WTF?

Meanwhile featherweights like Henin retired at 26 (and retired again due to injury despite having no body fat). All of her other peers have left the game one way or another. Injuries happen regardless of a player's fitness level.

Seriously, you're freaking delusional. Some of the **** you write is assinine which is why you're always in arguments with people in EVERY SINGLE THREAD.
 

LDVTennis

Professional
Serena has been a pro from the age of 14 until 29, winning slam titles from the age of 17 to 28. And you're saying she has not had a "durable career"? WTF?

Meanwhile featherweights like Henin retired at 26 (and retired again due to injury despite having no body fat). All of her other peers have left the game one way or another. Injuries happen regardless of a player's fitness level.

Henin was no more of a durable athlete than Serena. Whereas Serena was big-boned and sometimes overweight, Henin was small and not naturally strong. In Henin's case, in particular, it is quite likely she overworked her body in an attempt to get stronger.

It is true Serena looks a bit better by comparison to Henin. But, we weren't comparing her to Henin. We were comparing her to Graf. Graf turned pro at age 13. She won her first major at age 17 and her last at age 29. In total, she won 1015 matches over the span of her pro career.

How durable was Serena when compared to Graf? Not very, not even close. The difference is Serena's body type and fitness level. TMF has made a good argument.
 

Annika

Semi-Pro
Hope she gets better and focuses on her health. She's almost too old for a come back! Enjoyed watching her though. :)
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
Serena has 13 major singles titles!! And you're saying her career "sucked" because she was overweight? Anyone on tour would give up a vital organ to have the career Serena has had.

Serena has been a pro from the age of 14 until 29, winning slam titles from the age of 17 to 28. And you're saying she has not had a "durable career"? WTF?

Meanwhile featherweights like Henin retired at 26 (and retired again due to injury despite having no body fat). All of her other peers have left the game one way or another. Injuries happen regardless of a player's fitness level.

Read carefully before you post b/c no one said Serena’s career sucks. Fact is Serena’s physical problems are contributed by her extra weight. If it isn’t, what else justify her limited playing tennis when compared to past great like Graf. Durability doesn’t end up only 575 matches in 15 yrs. Like LDVtennis said, Henin isn’t physically as strong, but unlike Serena, weight isn’t the problem b/c she’s more agile/mobile, doesn’t have the knee problems like Serena.
 
How durable was Serena when compared to Graf? Not very, not even close. The difference is Serena's body type and fitness level. TMF has made a good argument.
And so have you, LDV.

Here is an excerpt from a recent blog written by Peter Bodo about Serena Williams (in part):

http://espn.go.com/sports/tennis/blog/_/name/bodo_peter/id/6214885

"Serena is closing on the age of 30, and her career-long susceptibility to injury has only increased. That she doesn't have a "typical" tennis player's physique (see Serena's sister, Venus Williams, for that) probably doesn't help her cause. If you were in charge of long-term planning for the WTA tour, would you factor Serena into your strategy?"

Mother Marjorie Ann
Undisputed Queen of Talk Tennis Warehouse
 

Raiden

Hall of Fame
http://espn.go.com/sports/tennis/blog/_/name/bodo_peter/id/6214885

"Serena is closing on the age of 30, and her career-long susceptibility to injury has only increased. That she doesn't have a "typical" tennis player's physique probably doesn't help her cause. If you were in charge of long-term planning for the WTA tour, would you factor Serena into your strategy?"
Well, that she's not typical has also been used to argue the other way (by herself among others if I'm correct) that she will last longer than current and/or past players of similar age&experience.
 

Spin Doctor

Professional
Article in USA Today from yesterday:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/tennis/2011-03-15-serena-williams-interview_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip

Highlights:

Last month she suffered a pulmonary embolism, or blood clot, that traveled from her leg to her lungs. She then was hospitalized to remove a hematoma from her stomach that grew to the size of a grapefruit.

She said she spent 10 weeks in a cast and almost 10 weeks in a walking boot and wore a tube and drainage bag for a week after her hematoma surgery.

Williams, who remains on blood thinners, said that doctors told her a part of her lung had "died" from the pulmonary embolism. She will have another cat scan in about three weeks to see if the clots are melting.

- Still hopes to come back

- In case you're interested, she was also wearing a "large bejewelled necklace" during the interview. Apparently this was important enough for the author to note.:roll:

My take: I think she is done. And deep inside she knows it. But she wants to maintain the perception that she is still in tennis to keep her image and her business ventures going.

"I think Serena is the best player out there, and I think just as a tennis player and a tennis fan, I do miss her," said second-ranked Kim Clisters of Belgium

Hee. But I guess she doesn't miss her as a person, just as a player? Ha ha. Total backhanded compliment. Well played Kim!
 

Raiden

Hall of Fame
"I think Serena is the best player out there, and I think just as a tennis player and a tennis fan, I do miss her," said second-ranked Kim Clisters of Belgium
Hee. But I guess she doesn't miss her as a person, just as a player? Ha ha. Total backhanded compliment. Well played Kim!
Jesus freakin Christ :rolleyes:

Nowhere is there a backhand complement at all. In fact it's the opposite. There is an unspoken compliment there.

Kim explicitly uses the phrase "just as". That implies the unspoken but evident opinion that that she ALSO misses her as something other than a tennis player.

You know American education is really low when a non-native starts to comprehend English better than the native.
 

Spin Doctor

Professional
Jesus freakin Christ :rolleyes:

Nowhere is there a backhand complement at all. In fact it's the opposite. There is an unspoken compliment there.

Kim explicitly uses the phrase "just as". That implies the unspoken but evident opinion that that she ALSO misses her as something other than a tennis player.

You know American education is really low when a non-native starts to comprehend the language better than the native.

I'm just kidding around. Chill.
 

Raiden

Hall of Fame
That's not all muscle! Serena is a big-boned girl who carries more weight than is ideal for a top tennis player.

Just look at these clips of her training. This is the real Serena Williams, not the one in those photoshopped pictures:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP4eU-vaOhw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKCXZjoZWeM

Some of you really need to get out of your houses and see what these pros really look like. Some of them are amazing physical specimens. Some of them are ... [fill in the blank].
I think the very fact that Serena fluctuates is an indication of a certain body type and physiology. You don't even have to pin point which exact weight the "normal one" is.
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
Hey, clueless. Everyone got the joke except you. I don’t know if the your state of mental health that blinded you, but like they say... "A lack of sense of humor is directly related to a lower self esteem"

...from the mouth of one with no insight about...anything.

Next, there's the sad part of you attacking members, then trying to pass that off as humor. Attacking members as often as you do is one of the key signs of one with hostility issues and a need to sell your fantasies as reality.

Interesting.
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
LOL. I wasn’t expecting to get an answer from you. It was to point out how stupid it is to claim something that you don’t know about me. You never visited a doctor, so that must be true that I never visit a doctor either.:rolleyes:

You are a strange character.

You are a habitual liar, so no one will ever believe your fake doctor yarn. Since your reason for even posting at TW is to attack members and the Williams family, it was rather easy to reach the conclusion that you (the liar) will invent pure BS (the "doctor") in order to support yet another attack on Serena Williams. It is the reason others in this thread have called you out on your motives.

So, dream up more fake doctors supporting your woeful ignorance of basic human physiology if you want, but to this day, you have failed to sell any sane mind that your ranting is even within a country mile of fact.

Yikes.
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
You are a habitual liar, so no one will ever believe your fake doctor yarn. Since your reason for even posting at TW is to attack members and the Williams family, it was rather easy to reach the conclusion that you (the liar) will invent pure BS (the "doctor") in order to support yet another attack on Serena Williams. It is the reason others in this thread have called you out on your motives.

So, dream up more fake doctors supporting your woeful ignorance of basic human physiology if you want, but to this day, you have failed to sell any sane mind that your ranting is even within a country mile of fact.

Yikes.

Don’t talk to me anymore...I’m sick of your ******** post. You’re not gaining any fan out of this ranting so just give it up. I don’t care if you think I don’t have a doctor or Serena is incredibly fit and healthy. Keep it to yourself, loser !
 
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