Serena Williams
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tennis_pro
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Agreed. First, the whole idea that she represents the moms of the world is delusional. Does she really think that all moms get the support that she got, both at home and in their professional life, which enabled her to play the circuit 3 months after giving birth? There was some sexism in today's umpire decisions, but at the same time, the umpire didn't steal anything (per the code) and "thief" is definitively an abusive word. The final ended up being what it was because of Serena's actions. Only hers.
vive le beau jeu !
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thx... that's exactly what i was looking for
So that game penalty was basically a free hold for Osaka.
so this means it doesn't change much if you're player isner or karlovic, right ?
(if you get your penalty game at the right moment, that is !)
I think for me I am in the middle on this one. I mean the first call was kind of questionable. I mean I personally don't think she uses it, with that said, the umpire saw the give a hand signal. So he was right to give a warning. Then Serena broke her racquet, clearly she caused that, and almost every chair calls that. So she clearly caused the point penalty. I mean she had to know this. My issue comes on the third . I really have a tough time on her being given this. She kept telling him you owe me an apology, used the word liar and thief. I'm sorry, I just don't feel it warranted it. She didn't aware, she didn't threaten him. Its unfortunate the match went this way.
Clearly Osaka was out playing her, and yes I think Serena should have kept it together. You're a pro tennis player who is suppose to be a role model. And a role model needs to act accordingly.
The issue for me is that I think the third call was unfair to both players and did affect the match
Clearly Osaka was out playing her, and yes I think Serena should have kept it together. You're a pro tennis player who is suppose to be a role model. And a role model needs to act accordingly.
The issue for me is that I think the third call was unfair to both players and did affect the match
metsman
Talk Tennis Guru
imagine if she gave birth to two sets of twins like Federer did. She would have been awarded at least 20 moral slams, I think we should give those to Fred.
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Let's wrong together in sweet harmony.
Ann
Hall of Fame
Good to know that I'm meaningless.. Sad if that's your only opinion.
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Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
What about when she threatened the line judge that Serena said. " I will kill you" and then later she denied it. After that controversy , serena continue to play great and won many more majors.
Deon Sanders
Legend
Serena deserved every violation
Serena blew a 3-1 lead in the second set
Osaka was better
There it is
Serena blew a 3-1 lead in the second set
Osaka was better
There it is
It got to game penalty because she broke her raquet and call the umpire thief.
Serve&Bash
Semi-Pro
Serena heretics dug up some clip of Ramos giving Sloane Stephens a penalty and are spreading it around on twitter as proof he is "racist".
Social media-fueled outrage is an absolutely disgusting thing.
Social media-fueled outrage is an absolutely disgusting thing.
Ann
Hall of Fame
I was born wrong.yeah, everybody's wrong !!!
... and i'm wrong too !
but naomi played alright
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
She is role model for bullies
Mainad
Bionic Poster
I mean questioning ones motherhood, does it really need to be said in here, I mean really
helterskelter
G.O.A.T.
What an intelligent response.
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
Asking the umpire to announce that Serena did not receive coaching was the first offense
Who does she think she is ??
Which umpire will announce like that and which umpire will say sorry for giving point penalty
Who does she think she is ??
Which umpire will announce like that and which umpire will say sorry for giving point penalty
big ted
Legend
whether that coaching violation was legitimate or not, i think the way serena reacted to it was not excusable. a classier player would just let it slide and move on. she obviously couldn't handle the fact she was getting beaten down.
the 3rd violation she got when she called him a thief is tricky. i have a hunch that if she wasn't harassing the umpire up until then with her "u need to apologize!!" stuff, he wouldn't have given her that 3rd one. the thief remark was the straw that broke the camels back.
the 3rd violation she got when she called him a thief is tricky. i have a hunch that if she wasn't harassing the umpire up until then with her "u need to apologize!!" stuff, he wouldn't have given her that 3rd one. the thief remark was the straw that broke the camels back.
AnOctorokForDinner
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I can see what you mean. Would have happened to a man, or to any player not called Serena Williams? I don't know. But Serena acted improperly. And that's what this whole thing is about.
markwillplay
Hall of Fame
Nope. Umpire never said she was cheating. He agreed with her. Warning was because of coaching. She could have let it go at that. I loved it in the press conference when she started describing the situation and said that she and the MPower we’re on the same page. Then she just stop talking. I wanted to say go ahead Serena, tell us the rest. You could not let it go. You be ready at him for calling you a cheater and he never did that. Three code violations for the same thing done. Rules are rules. She was getting beat and having a temper tantrum. Seen it before.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
If he feels like an umpire is unfair to him he can ask ATP to give him different umpires and ATP can accept his plea or not, it really itsn't rocket science.
markwillplay
Hall of Fame
I also think that some of the parading the empire was taking was not shown. I’ll sell some of it later. When she whined about me and getting by with worse she was absolutely wrong. Me and cuss and do all kinds of things but not after a point has been taken. If they do after a point has been taken they get a game taken as well. Poor ESPN commentators are so in the house for Serena that they can’t bear to actually say it. They hit edit thankfully, but they just can’t say it. She should have shut her mouth
slice bh compliment
G.O.A.T.
Yes. I am not a practicing psychologist but i did take three semesters of psych. And i stayed at a holiday inn express last night.
Narcissism. Borderline personality disorder. Me against the woild syndrome. Made her a champion. But also an entitled diva slash goddess. Hashtag nexlevel beyoncé on a tennis court.
Yaas queen!
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tennisaddict
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So that game penalty was basically a free hold for Osaka.
In the scheme of things it wasn't a big deal
Would have liked if the game penalty came on Serena's serve
Antonio Puente
Hall of Fame
I agree with the overall sentiment.
If they could go back several hours, would everyone involved do things differently? Yes.
If they could go back several hours, would everyone involved do things differently? Yes.
Man of steel
Hall of Fame
No one remembers this?
Rafa getting 2 violations.
Loses a serve(not even a point)
Yet berates Bernardes afterwards and doesn't lose a game
Rafa getting 2 violations.
Loses a serve(not even a point)
Yet berates Bernardes afterwards and doesn't lose a game
markwillplay
Hall of Fame
He was a sexist remark. Men have enough sense to cuss at the umpire before they reach their third violation. I would love to say I was surprised about today’s events, but after watching her her entire career par for the course. The saddest thing is that the empire was absolutely not calling her a cheater. He acknowledged that but it wasn’t good enough for her. She got her ass beat. Sitdown
Ann
Hall of Fame
So wrong.
what about this guy?
metsman
Talk Tennis Guru
helterskelter
G.O.A.T.
Sartorius
Hall of Fame
I'm begining to think Serena using the word "thief" is unfortunate, because it takes away how abusing her entire tirade against Ramos truly was:
"You will never ever be on another court of mine as long as you live. You are the liar."
And this is not the full extent of it if I remember correctly, it started before the changeover. It's not like Serena merely said "thief" to Ramos and he issued the warning there and then.
Mr Feeny
Hall of Fame
Hillarious, isn't it?
Clara
New User
For example the match against clijster and threatening the line woman who called a foot fault. Same tantrum and acting like diva
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mellowyellow
Legend
That's already been disproved...
Of all the wrong things this guy was the least wrong. I mean seriously he made a hand gesture.
what about this guy?
big ted
Legend
I think she really is insane, esp when she got the first violation and said she would never cheat becuz she has a daughter.?.?.. why even bring that up... then at the end she said they're targeting her becuz she's a woman..?.. wasn't there a woman in the other side of the court too ??? !?
Ann
Hall of Fame
Did you read the post. I never said Osaka was wrong.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
Well if you're attempting to win your first Slam 6-2 4-3 and 6-2 5-3 is a huge difference. That would've been a crucial hold for Osaka.
bigjimbofan
Semi-Pro
Possibly but I'm not buying it. Serena's actions are proof of a desperate and beaten person. Anyone with class would have risen above the perceived injustice. Just imagine what poor Osaka and her family had to endure from the ugly crowd. Serena is a bully and will stoop to any level to win. I can see she got the class genes from her father. The mother and Venus are OK in my book.
slice bh compliment
G.O.A.T.
helterskelter
G.O.A.T.
Andy Miller
Rookie
Her history shows what a clown she is. Venus would never act like that she is the classy sister
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