How deep this gets, all youtube videos of Serena's rant were erased.
Nike should call that a me-me not a tu-tu. Just no concern for anyone else
Just Do It quite appropriate for someone who should take 10 before opening her mouth
She was given a code violation for coaching. There's an issue around the consistency of how that's applied, but there's no controversy about whether or not she was being coached. Her coach has said publicly he was doing it on this occasion and that he does it all the time. The faux piety around "cheating" is empty...given that there were clear breaches of the rules.
Then why have rules in the first place? And how do we decide which rules are ‘tennis’ and which rules are too strict? Should we also allow PEDs? Cause I want to see a good quality match more often. Or how about the Lahyani incident where he actually helped to make the match more entertaining and spiced things up a bit. Cause I seem to remember you were against him for doing so. Where do we draw the line? Following the rules of a sport doesn’t make it a trial. This wasn’t a case of her being picked on. This was 3 separate offences. A conversation about whether you agree with a rules is besides the point. She fully well knew what she was doing. She tried to push her luck and unfortunately for her, the umpire was not standing for any kind misconduct. Tough luck.Because people want to see a tennis match, not a trial.
There is plenty of the footage and video reportage of the incident on Youtube.
Some uploaded videos might disappear after getting flagged for deletion because of copyright infringement rather than any conspiracy theories.
ahggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg far out it is so infuriating to see the CRAP that the media spin on stories like this...
**** me. The umpire FOLLOWED THE DAMN RULES. This sort of sensationalist crap drives me up the wall.
I thought we had it bad in Australia when our media overplays all of Kyrgios antics, but the articles I have seen come out of the US today are just beyond ridiculous.
For me that is perfectly fine. Like in boxing or table tennis. Would you like being able to hear what Ljubicic would say to Fed against Millman or Moya to Nadal against Djokovic or Vajda to Djokovic against Fucsovicz? Hearing coaching is great entertainment and gives you a real insight into sport you are watching. In table tennis it is incredible what kind of technical advises you can hear given to world best players. it is true that a minimal change could make a huge difference and that is the beauty of it.I think coaching has the capacity to make a huge difference. If a player implements a tactic they weren't using before they received the external advice it can change a match.
The coach admitted to trying to coach her, but you conveniently left out his other statement that she did not see his hand signal.
Being accused of cheating is a serious accusation, and I don't think Ramos acted with the prudence required given the seriousness of the charge.
I agree with this:
Ramos went out of his way to call the initial violation. I'm wagering not one person even thought about it until he made it an issue, and it's absolutely true that it goes on all the time and is usually not called.
The initial mistake was Ramos's, and the idea that he had to do it is absolute BS.
But what followed was an absolute fluster cluck.
Agree. The most prudent strategy for referees is to ignore it until it is a totally obvious case of rules infringement. In this particular case Serena and sections of American public are frustrated with the loss. They don't see it as a sport where justice is done when a better player wins on the night. They see it as someone spoiled a perfectly scripted fairy tale.
For me that is perfectly fine. Like in boxing or table tennis. Would you like being able to hear what Ljubicic would say to Fed against Millman or Moya to Nadal against Djokovic or Vajda to Djokovic against Fucsovicz? Hearing coaching is great entertainment and gives you a real insight into sport you are watching. In table tennis it is incredible what kind of technical advises you can hear given to world best players. it is true that a minimal change could make a huge difference and that is the beauty of it.
More experience players always get advantages. I don't think SW was going to win the match.Osaka is in the big match for the first time.
Serena, a 23 times Major champion, gets the coaching.
The umpire decides to level the score on that one as it is actually against the rules AND the more experienced player gets another advantage.
You are right, the umpire could have closed his eyes.
Good on him that he didn't.
Shifting Blame to men who behave more badly is not a defense
However , he should have given her a verbal abuse warning not take a damn game
If any of you watched the Sascha Bajin press conference on the US Open website several days ago, he threw shades at Serena for being "fake" or not genuine. This rings true at 11:50 when after she hugs Osaka, she physically bumps into Osaka.
I would have, and I'm almost twice her age.
I've got to say I was expecting to see something more dramatic to earn the game penalty. Whether there was more than shown on the coverage isn't clear. If it was simply for saying that the umpire stole a point from her (which is not the same as saying the umpire is corrupt) then the umpire should not have proceeded to a code violation at that point. There's a few unanswered questions. Serena's coach has admitted to coaching and the footage of him doing so has been produced. He also said Osaka was being coached throughout the match. If so, there should be some footage of it...
It was her third violation-at that point it becomes an automatic game deduction. If she somehow wasn't looking at her coach then she needs to blame him for costing her the first violation & not the umpire. The second violation was destroying her racquet & the third one was abusing the umpire/calling his character into question-which again is all on her.