Yes, Patrick admitted that his motion was an illegal coaching signal. Indicated that this kind of thing is widespread and, as such, showed be allowed.I don't know but it's clear her coach knows what he's doing is illegal.
Impressive that the umpire was aware enough to catch it. Even Serena did not see it.
Spiritual. Awareness? What? That is dead now. I am on my her-ney. This is real. Anything is real if you identify it as real, man! I mean, person. Herstory will be kind to serena. Not Ramos. I want to end up on the good side of herstory. I follow the goddess now. And you cannot have aussie darcy guide me.There is no need to be ashamed. Let Aussie Darcy be your guide to spiritual awareness and the non-spiritual stuff as well.
How many other players berate and namecall an umpire on consecutive changeovers like that, after having 2 (legitimate) code violations already?Overwhelming majority is with her. Check the world media coverage.
The chair umpire has made it possible for the world to see the double standards and may have triggered the much needed debate to fix what's wrong with the system.
Is it true that Carlos didn't get a medal? Hopefully they present it to him at a public ceremony in Lisbon.Spiritual. Awareness? What? That is dead now. I am on my her-ney. This is real. Anything is real if you identify it as real, man! I mean, person. Herstory will be kind to serena. Not Ramos. I want to end up on the good side of herstory. I follow the goddess now. And you cannot have aussie darcy guide me.
I don’t agree with you.Umpires have been called much more in lesser games and maintained their cool, because they are generally more mature.
Now if you're saying that those umpires were too lenient, that's fine. Then let's have an uniform rule where every player, no matter how big or small, knows that the first altercation they get into with an umpire, no matter how innocuous the words used, results in an instant game conduct. I'd be fine with that. When rules are selectively and randomly enforced, it doesn't benefit anyone.
The Coach admitted he was coaching! How’s that BS again?Ya we are all getting to the end game here and ignoring the beginning. Its like well that guy broke that guys face but lets ignore the fact that he was grabbing his ladies butt all night and laughing at him. The guy punched the other dude in the face. Thats all that matters right? No nuance no, bs call for coaching, no huge moment in a gs final, no nothing.
You cross a very clear line when you question an official's ethics - in any sport. Try this in a rugby match and you're sent off. It's a sure yellow in a soccer game. Baseball ump will eject you. He took a lot from her. He took some after the point penalty itself and then during the changeover. Calling him a thief calls into question his impartiality and you just do not do that.And that for me is where the real issue lies is in the third call. I think that the referee and supervisor review everything and decide if this was clearly verbal abuse, which I honestly feel it was not, not in the grand scheme of things.
The issue is that there are to many inconsistencies when it comes to calls. I'm not going to say that Serena would have won. I think Osaka would have still beat her. But I think we can at least agree that it did affect the match
Agree, this time Serena was the one getting overpowered by youthful power of Osaka. and Osaka handled Serena's power with ease and that was really bothering Serena all night. and she finally became unraveledThere is nothing to write about "the power of Serena" in this final. She was overpowered and outplayed by a teen, and couldn't handle the situation...
Simple as that.
He went out of his way to involve himself in the match. She freaked out but no way there should have been a coaching penalty. We all see the camera angles all the time. Coaches coach all the time, most of them can't help it. Issuing a warning for that is absurd. The racket smash is justified, we all know that rule. Issuing a verbal abuse warning for calling him a thief? That's weakness on his part. I've seen and heard much worse on both tours. Then again, so have you, you just don't care for Serena so there's really no sense in trying to make a realistic argument. I will say that I do feel badly for Osaka having her first slam overshadowed by all of that. She played incredible. You NEVER see anyone hit Serena off the court like that. Not Kerber, Sharapova, Mugaruza, none of them. Osaka played well physically and mentally. Too bad no one will be talking about that tomorrow.
She wasn't penalized for venting. She's allowed to vent. She was penalized for calling him a thief at the end of all the venting.Well watching the video it’s more about that she felt the coaching aspect was an incorrect assumption. And for a thumbs up that is so minute when there are far worse known coaching scenarios going on. And I don’t blame her for venting. She should’ve tapered it off and not been so adamnet for an apology she has to know he isn’t going to say sorry after the fact and in that moment.
I don' think that was a power play by Ramos. I think he just got really sick and tired of Serena verbally abusing him all of 2nd set and he wanted to shut her up somehow and probably thought "Oh this will shut her up and gave her game penalty" but didn't think of the consenquences it will have on the match.At U.S. Open, power of Serena Williams and Naomi Osaka is overshadowed by an umpire’s power play
by Sally Jenkins,
The Washington Post
What any clear, hate-free mind witnessed:
Key point #1:
Irrefutable truth. As I--and anyone who followed the sport more than the ages of certain TWW members, Serena did not do anything different than innumerable players I tennis history. Sorry Hooded Haters, but her reaction is nothing compared to outbursts from Nastase, McEnroe, Connors cursing out anyone in sight with McEnroe's violent behavior injuring a fan), cursing out umpires and fans like Sharapova, Jim Courier violently shaking the chair umpire (nearly causing him to be pitched from the seat), or the unforgivable racist tirade against James Blake and a linesperson who happened to be the "wrong" color by the vile Lleyton Hewitt (who should have been banned from the sport for his attack...but was not). Nowhere near yesterday's incident, no matter how much you want it to be that way. So for Ramos to effectively shift the course of a majors final strongly suggests he either hates Williams (for any number of despicable reasons), or as the article points out, he could not stand a woman asserting her rightful opinion to him. Take your pick.
Key point #2:
Of all players in history--female or male to not need on-court coaching, that would be Serena. You do not reach her kind of success by having constant whispers in your ears; a player faces some new and some familiar opponents at any turn, and there's no way to take all of their possible reactons or strategies into consideration enough that it would matter--unless one is a low-skilled player (I will leave them nameless for now). Moreover, there's more than enough players in the WTA and ATP who do receive on-court coaching, but how often are they being penalized?
Key point #3:
So, let's see...Nadal threatening Ramos' job security (and the threat meant exactly that) was less egregious than "You're a thief?" Bullsh*t--so once again, it all goes back to what can only be Ramos' motivations / reactions, and by comparison, he barely slapped Nadal on the wrist for a greater, personal threat to his livelihood.
Key point #4:
If was a thief--his sticky fingers were motivated by sickening beliefs. I will let the Serena haters / Ramos defenders try to spin that anyway they can, as failed a mission that will be.
Thank you! That's it!Hey man, it’s quite easy to shake off a coaching warning. It doesn’t have any impact on the match
Don’t destroy your racquet and continue to berate him when you’re skating on thin ice