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Ramos sounds like a Russian name to me, so he must be a meddler.
Hilarious.
I thought that you know better.
Ramos sounds like a Russian name to me, so he must be a meddler.
Telling someone they are cheating involves imputing intention as well.
I don’t think the first violation should have been called. Coaches make jestures to players and players looking at their team—it happens all the time. It is kind of bizarre that thing was called during the final.Whatever you think of Serena and Naomi (and I adore Naomi), there is no doubt in my mind that the chair acted improperly.
I think there was gender bias at work. The first coaching violation? Deserved. The second violation? Deserved.
But I cannot begin to count the number of times men have sat in their chairs on changeovers and had heated discussions with umpires, and nothing whatever happens. But when it is Serena, it is a game penalty in the final. Insane. Her words were actually civil -- saying she deserved an apology, no profanity, no threats.
Need more proof?
In this same tournament, we had a chair umpire come out of his chair to basically coach Kirios in front of God and everyone. The proper response would have been to enforce the code of conduct, but no. Ump goes easy on the man, and USTA backs up the umpire.
By that standard, Ramos should have come out of his chair and talked to Serena, calm her nerves, tell her he wants to help her. Nope -- game penalty (when the tirade was over and he could have let it go) to put Serena's opponent a game away from the championship.
Congratulations to Naomi, but what happened today was rooted in disparate treatment and sexism.
Serena’s only option now is to answer every question with praise for Osaka and say nothing about the penalties. If she can do that she can recapture a little honor.
That or quickly have another daughter.
Mouratoglou was clearly making an obscene gesture to the supermodel in the front row.
I will let the Serena haters / Ramos defenders try to spin that anyway they can, as failed a mission that will be.
Overwhelming majority is with her. Check the world media coverage.
The chair umpire has made it possible for the world to see the double standards and may have triggered the much needed debate to fix what's wrong with the system.
No player is stupid enough to take a public stance against her childishness and few media members are given the current political climate. Don't assume the vocal minority is a majority.
hes kind of a big deal
They are called thieves every single match by the men. The difference is that Roger calls them burglars, Nadal says "umpire take thing and no ask, no", Kyrgios prefers "badass klepto".Do you know any other occasion when umpire was called a thief? Everything else is more tolerable as "thief" implies intention. I heard player saying "are you blind", but this is not comparable as it does not imply intention.
No player is stupid enough to take a public stance against her childishness and few media members are given the current political climate. Don't assume the vocal minority is a majority.
Uncle Toni deserved it.Serena should take responsibility this is not the first time this has happened. How about her coach throwing uncle Tony under the bus what a jerk
This only matters if your son is Serena Williams’ daughter.
Did he come out of you though?
Well seriously if this was Nick Kyrgios (who btw is a MAN) was carrying on who would disagree the penalty was appropriate, and what would the media "stories" be?
So no Serena, you are not being persecuted, you are being entitled.
Man I hope I see coaching penalties far more on the men’s tour cause they happen all the damn time.
Never heard that. Do you have some footage?They are called thieves every single match by the men. The difference is that Roger calls them burglars, Nadal says "umpire take thing and no ask, no", Kyrgios prefers "badass klepto".
Yeah. This is all napoleon's fault! The patriarchy. Small man syndrome. An insecure whitey from like Yerup or PorchaGull or someplace.If Ramos can't take that sort of guff like a man then he has problems with women.
You really want to play that card when there’s male tennis players like Kyrgios, Troicki and McEnroe? Mac is literally known for being an absolute roller coaster so you probably should shut up and stay quiet.
if you have internet, you can watch a replay on ESPN3 or watch ESPN. it was a real trainwreck. The press is not reporting the whole truth and worse, my local TV channels don't even mention the winner's name: Osaka!Right now I don't have a cable subscription so I missed the match. After reading about this debacle I do not see the point of paying extra to get the Tennis Channel(for its rerun coverage). I have been a big fan of tennis since 1985 but I am tired of the ridiculous sense of hubris exhibited not just by Serena but by all these pampered players. This is a classic example of what is wrong with society in general. Everything is blown way out of proportion. Like a lifeguard at the pool the umpire is not going to call every infraction. However, he does have the authority to make the calls he did and if he was wrong, it was not because he is biased against women. There is a way that Serena is right but not the victim of a plot against her individually or as a woman.
Serena shoud be ashamed. She has a daughter. What life lessons is she teaching her with these sort of public behaviour?
Baseball is not based on rules of integrity and ethics. Most other sports are.Rafa went ballistic after getting booked for it. But he got himself off the ledge pretty quickly after.
I believe golf has a violation policy for broken clubs. But sports like baseball don’t.
I think the tennis penalty is more so for influencing kids away from being bratty?
Mouratoglou was clearly making an obscene gesture to the supermodel in the front row.
Overwhelming majority is with her. Check the world media coverage.
The chair umpire has made it possible for the world to see the double standards and may have triggered the much needed debate to fix what's wrong with the system.
But she didn't win.Now we will see countless articles defending the Queen.Thank God she lost.Just imagine she had won - it would have been ten times worse.
Um, that’s her point. We’ll never see a man draw 3 code violations in a gs final. Only happens to a woman.
Can’t believe it.Overwhelming majority is with her. Check the world media coverage.
The chair umpire has made it possible for the world to see the double standards and may have triggered the much needed debate to fix what's wrong with the system.
Shifting Blame to men who behave more badly is not a defense
However , he should have given her a verbal abuse warning not take a damn game
They're investigating this?Can’t believe it.
Though ATP/WTA has a golden opportunity to make it worse by suspending Ramos.
B*llsh*t.Nobody is supporting her childishness imo.
They are saying the umpire is wrong or has applied double standards.
Taking it? Lol watIf Ramos can't take that sort of guff like a man then he has problems with women.
Um, that’s her point. We’ll never see a man draw 3 code violations in a gs final. Only happens to a woman.