Just pointing out the double standards. According to many on this thread, that wasn’t even a wrong! Interesting.Two wrongs don’t make one right.
Once when I was a kid
Not to mention that Del Potro did take 20 seconds+ before deciding to challenge several times. Fed had a point, he just didn't express it in the healthiest of ways. And he didn't insult the umpire.
If by “bully” you mean doing his job and enforcing the rules.
Serena was being a brat. As usual.
Did Federer insult the umpire - yes or no?So swearing is ok now? Interesting.
Never said they didn’t, just that it’s interesting swearing goes unpunished in a USO final but the word thief is suddenly the worst thing ever.To be fair the umpire let Delpo to take a forever with those challenges
Foot Fault is a S.L. Rule. Coaching is not explaining some of the controversy. And there should never be a S.L. rule I’m which someone other then the player can result in the player losing a point.
How about instead the first time is a warning and a second time the coach must leave the match and watxh from the lounge ?
Chef Maestro?Post of the day here btw, just in case
Just pointing out the double standards. According to many on this thread, that wasn’t even a wrong! Interesting.
Like BJK - "coaching should be allowed, I'm with Serena"Dude, the only way that “woke” Serena defenders are staying in the conversation is by presenting hypocritical points and false equivalencies.
I just can’t imagine old cranky Billie scissoring with another gal.
Wierd. Disgust. Reported
He did get a monetary fineNever said they didn’t, just that it’s interesting swearing goes unpunished in a USO final but the word thief is suddenly the worst thing ever.
Serena was embarrassed and humiliated but that was because of her own actions, not Ramos.Ramos was using his power as umpire to unfairly humiliate and embarrass one of the athletes. Sounds like bullying to me, man.
In the 2009 US Open men’s final Roger Federer said
‘Don't tell me to be quiet, OK? When I want to talk, I talk. I don't give a s***’
Resulting in...nothing. Then, having gotten that out of his system, he got up from his chair and broke Del Potro to win the 3rd set.
Serena says the word thief and gets a game penalty. Double standards are 100% there. I hate what she did but the punishment on these things are so poorly handed out.
No. Is swearing a punishable offence on court? Yes or no.Did Federer insult the umpire - yes or no?
Why are sexual positions being discussed on this thread? LolAccording to real lesbians that act is never done by them-it is something invented by males to be depicted in film.
It was a lose lose situation.And if Ramos got pelted by the crowd everyone would have criticised the USTA for not protecting him.
Which did absolutely nothing to halt the actual match and was done after the fact. I’m sure Serena would’ve loved a fine instead of a game penalty. Just saying.He did get a monetary fine
It depends on the situation. Insulting an umpire deserves a code violation in every case.No. Is swearing a punishable offence on court? Yes or no.
Yes he should have. Very disappointing attitude from the USTA. They shouldn't have been trying to placate a player.
I hope they at least issue a statement standing up for Ramos.
Did Federer berate the umpire for 15 minutes before that?In the 2009 US Open men’s final Roger Federer said
‘Don't tell me to be quiet, OK? When I want to talk, I talk. I don't give a s***’
Resulting in...nothing. Then, having gotten that out of his system, he got up from his chair and broke Del Potro to win the 3rd set.
Serena says the word thief and gets a game penalty. Double standards are 100% there. I hate what she did but the punishment on these things are so poorly handed out.
Ramos was using his power as umpire to unfairly humiliate and embarrass one of the athletes. Sounds like bullying to me, man.
Lol the mental gymnastics you have to do to pose the cheater as the victim...Ramos was using his power as umpire to unfairly humiliate and embarrass one of the athletes. Sounds like bullying to me, man.
In the 2009 US Open men’s final Roger Federer said
‘Don't tell me to be quiet, OK? When I want to talk, I talk. I don't give a s***’
Resulting in...nothing. Then, having gotten that out of his system, he got up from his chair and broke Del Potro to win the 3rd set.
Serena says the word thief and gets a game penalty. Double standards are 100% there. I hate what she did but the punishment on these things are so poorly handed out.
My ex gf called my d@ck small, she owes me an apology.
No he shouldnt have.He should have been a part of the ceremony. Also he should also be allowed to explain his stance.
He should have been asked if he has a daughter too, if so may be he fought for her right too. Who knows?!
Yeah ignore facts mate, it makes you look clever. He gave a code violation to Murray for saying "stupid umpiring" Now I know Murray second serves like a girl, but he is in fact a man
It depends on the situation. Oh look at you just making rules up as you go along, clearly the rules are inconsistent if someone swearing goes unpunished but another swearing doesn’t. That’s the point I’m making is all. I hate what Serena did, just showing the double standards. Kyrgios tanks and he gets coached. Funny.It depends on the situation. Insulting an umpire deserves a code violation in every case.
You’re a victim?
I guess you have to apologise to me for being a victim. You also have the right to verbally abuse me and threaten me.
Undeserved sympathy from mainstream media, social justice tragics, and PC former pros will arrive on Monday. Just make sure you’re up for the UPS man at 8am.
Edit: Oops did I just assume that UPS will send a man? Guess I’m sexist and transphobic. Let me know when you’d like that apology.
No he shouldnt have.
No one came to see Carlos Ramos.
This match want about him.
He should have done his job to facilitate play not to inject himself and his drama into the outcome.
I don't believe he should have. Murray should've been allowed a moment of benign frustration. Tennis is an emotional game.
If it was that easy...Deck enlargement operation would save my dayJust get some more wood and build a bigger deck. No biggie.
She would have gotten a fine. That's what a warning for coaching entails. That's all that would have happened if she hadn't then broken a racket, and then berated the umpire for 15 minutes and called him a thief (can't believe you try to minimize a player calling the umpire a thief for enforcing a rule, the way it is regularly enforced btw).Which did absolutely nothing to halt the actual match and was done after the fact. I’m sure Serena would’ve loved a fine instead of a game penalty. Just saying.
If swearing and insulting the umpire are in the same category to you then this is a pointless discussion.It depends on the situation. Oh look at you just making rules up as you go along, clearly the rules are inconsistent if someone swearing goes unpunished but another swearing doesn’t. That’s the point I’m making is all. I hate what Serena did, just showing the double standards. Kyrgios tanks and he gets coached. Funny.
You're focusing on the minutiae. He blatantly coached her so the code violation was appropriate. You cannot claim half the board doesn't agree? proof?Except he doesn't appear to have told her to bring Naomi to the net at all. He appears to have told her to go to the net herself. I don't know how you can so determinedly claim to know what he was doing when half this board can't agree on what it was (some ppl, for instance, are claiming he told her to hit down the middle).
Apparently not as he has been roundly criticized by current and former players.he did his job perfectly and with neutrality as the excellent professional he is
I’m not against what he did, I’m just pointing out the double standards man. If people have read my posts, I have said numerous times what she said and did was wrong, I’m just saying the rules need to be much clearer on these things.if you watch the tennis channel feed, it has both Williams and Ramos in the same shot. Williams was relentless in her tirade and Ramos was nodding along trying to calm her. She yelled ‘don’t talk to me’ and he nodded ok and turned away. Then she called him a liar and he was taken aback. It was clear he thought about calling a violation then but he didn’t. Then after another 30 seconds of abuse she called him a thief and he called it.
I’m against the coaching call because I honestly don’t think he would have called that against a male player in a grand slam, but the last one was definitely on Williams.
If it was that easy...Deck enlargement operation would save my day
You don't think male players have gotten warnings for coaching?.if you watch the tennis channel feed, it has both Williams and Ramos in the same shot. Williams was relentless in her tirade and Ramos was nodding along trying to calm her. She yelled ‘don’t talk to me’ and he nodded ok and turned away. Then she called him a liar and he was taken aback. It was clear he thought about calling a violation then but he didn’t. Then after another 30 seconds of abuse she called him a thief and he called it.
I’m against the coaching call because I honestly don’t think he would have called that against a male player in a grand slam, but the last one was definitely on Williams.
He did his job. Serena just thought she was above the rules multiple times then played the victim when she got spanked.No he shouldnt have.
No one came to see Carlos Ramos.
This match wasnt about him.
He should have done his job to facilitate play not to inject himself and his drama into the outcome.
Why are sexual positions being discussed on this thread? Lol
Apparently not as he has been roundly criticized by current and former players.