Serve Critique (The Sequel)

[zak425]

Ok I originally uploaded my new serve technique a couple weeks ago. After watching the video and taking the comments in, I decided I wanted to work on my racquet drop, and loosening my grip. Im posting the old video to compare to the improved motion

Old Serve from back - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TLesuqZ_8c
Old Serve from side - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUg-VsCjrIo

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New motion from back - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXnsWAYUmmM
New motion from side - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABpGc8f0LaM

 

[Jonny S&V]

Ok I originally uploaded my new serve technique a couple weeks ago. After watching the video and taking the comments in, I decided I wanted to work on my racquet drop, and loosening my grip. Im posting the old video to compare to the improved motion

You still have the waiter's hand in your trophy position. Your racquet face opens up the sky, which is something that you don't want. Have the edge of your racquet always pointing to the sky in the trophy position.

BTW, your shorts are lookin' a little tight... ;-)

 

[zak425]

Do you know any drill that will help me eliminate the waiters hand?

 

[Jonny S&V]

Do you know any drill that will help me eliminate the waiters hand?

Uh, there's really no drill for this, whenever you get into the trophy position, point the tip of your racquet to the sky. It's a conscious thing change at first.

 

[zak425]

Gotcha. What do you think of it other than the waiters wrist? I seemed to have lost the hitch by dropping the racquet on my back, and another improvement I have seen is before I noticed my front foot used to slide back before hitting, and now I seem to keep in more in front.

 

[Jonny S&V]

Gotcha. What do you think of it other than the waiters wrist? I seemed to have lost the hitch by dropping the racquet on my back, and another improvement I have seen is before I noticed my front foot used to slide back before hitting, and now I seem to keep in more in front.

Eveything else seems to be fine, but I'm sure once you fix the waiter's-wrist, something else will crop up. ;-)

 

[Kenny022593]

Eveything else seems to be fine, but I'm sure once you fix the waiter's-wrist, something else will crop up. ;-)

I am highjacking the thread, sorry, but Jonny, how do you like the Cyber Flash? I've played with it before too. Have you played with Cyber Blue? Could you compare the two?

 

[UCSF2012]

try holding the racket lower on the shaft. It looks like you're choking up on the handle.

 

[LeeD]

Get rid of the geeky waist bend as you toss.
Adopt more archer's bow after you've tossed.
Your swing is not bad, and you are trying....another good
And as everyone said, your trophy position should have the racket pointed at the sky above you, not to your left and to the side. The reason is when you have the racket pointed straight up, the motion starts with a long loop, giving you the most rackethead speed with the LEAST effort.

 

[jwbarrientos]

You still have the waiter's hand in your trophy position. Your racquet face opens up the sky, which is something that you don't want. Have the edge of your racquet always pointing to the sky in the trophy position.

BTW, your shorts are lookin' a little tight... ;-)

Hey Jonny you provide a complete feedback ;-)

to the OP, the second motion looks better than the previous, what about the results? have you first serve ratio improved?

 

[Djokovicfan4life]

Do you know any drill that will help me eliminate the waiters hand?

Just stop laying back your wrist as you bring the racquet up. Keep it relaxed in a neutral position (in line with your forearm) until you begin to swing. Then it will extend and flex back to neutral at contact naturally, meaning more racquet head speed.

 

[mozzer]

Put the balls in your left pocket.

Looks good, but try to keep your front foot planted instead of moving it back a bit

 

[zak425]

Hey Jonny you provide a complete feedback ;-)

to the OP, the second motion looks better than the previous, what about the results? have you first serve ratio improved?

Im getting more pace on it for sure, as well as getting more in. I agree completely about my wrist. I emailed my buddy who is a 6.0 and he said he'd like to see my grip go more to the left than the continental. In order to help my pronation, as well as allow me to hit flat and with spin. He is a pro as well at a local club, its looking that he will give me some free lessons.

 

[heretoserve]

New seems to be a little more palm down. Your are stopping at the racquet drop though. I don't like to say racquet drop. If you are true palm down (approaching the ball with the wrong side of the racquet) this will help you collapse your elbow. Try collapsing your elbow with your palm up verses with your palm down. Right there at your computer desk. Either way when you use a throwing motion and your relaxed, and your true palm down when you uncoil the racquet will lag behind creating the effect of a drop. It is really just the kinetic chain charging up. Bets drill for you. Go up to the net, and with your normal motion, hit a couple balls with the wrong side of your racquet. Then pretend your going to hit it with the wrong side and flip and hit it with the right side. Hard to explain. Fast forward to the serve part. Watch and listen close to the explanations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRW8VN9Pcns

Sorry if I'm just repeating what every one else said.

 

[Jonny S&V]

I am highjacking the thread, sorry, but Jonny, how do you like the Cyber Flash? I've played with it before too. Have you played with Cyber Blue? Could you compare the two?

No problem, I don't think other people would care too much. ;-)

My history with Cyberflash is quite extensive, as I've used it for 3.5 years now. It is truly my dream string. Some have commented that it feels plasticky, but I love the feel of the string (not to mention it's a dream to string). Compared to Cyberblue, it's a lot crisper and less power. There is definitely more feel in the Cyberblue, but I didn't like the power level, and it didn't grip the ball the same. If you're a flatter hitter, than I can see Cyberblue being nice for you. It isn't for me unfortunately... :-/

 

[Kenny022593]

No problem, I don't think other people would care too much. ;-)

My history with Cyberflash is quite extensive, as I've used it for 3.5 years now. It is truly my dream string. Some have commented that it feels plasticky, but I love the feel of the string (not to mention it's a dream to string). Compared to Cyberblue, it's a lot crisper and less power. There is definitely more feel in the Cyberblue, but I didn't like the power level, and it didn't grip the ball the same. If you're a flatter hitter, than I can see Cyberblue being nice for you. It isn't for me unfortunately... :-/

Thanks, I will have to try it out and play Blue and Flash side by side.