Shapovalov needs a timeout

I agree (it's a disgrace)... they engage with the umpire for two minutes.
I gotta say.... I'm with the umpire on this one. If she doesn't clearly see it, she can't call it as Shapo/Bopanna point. They can make their case, ask the other guys what they think about it, and carry on.
Yes, it should clearly be their point, and I'm thinking that if I was in the chair I would see it or make sense of the physics in this case, but to call her/the situation a joke and all those insults was over the top. It's an injustice for WHATEVER reason, get over it and play on.
 
“If you don't see something like that there's no point being up there," Shapovalov said to the umpire as she repeatedly told him she didn't see the ball hit the ground.

"If you don't see this, this is a joke!’

"There's no point in playing tennis if you don't see something like that. It's basic tennis.”

Whinopalov misses backhands left and right. It’s a joke. A backhand is basic pro tennis. If he can‘t consistently hit a decent backhand there’s no point in playing pro tennis.

 
Lavs said:
The thing is he was completely right lol
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Doesn’t matter. You don’t get to talk to someone like that because they made a mistake. Doing so or letting that kind of behavior slide only emboldens those already taking advantage of a power imbalance.
 
Forgive Me Father said:
No, he actually did not go on a screaming tirade at all.


Are you lying or just stupidly buying into the article?


He calmly dispatched her while being faced with one of the most egregious calls of all time on game point / break point.
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“Calmly dispatched” equals insulting and disparaging? Are you even thinking about this objectively or stupidly oversimplifying to forgive awful behavior? This is a gentleman’s game, and his behavior was uncalled for, even if the officials made an error. To think they will not make mistakes is the most foolish frame of mind of all.
 
Shapovalov, I feel for him. When he burst on the scene in 2017 upsetting the #1 player in the world and making a big splash at the Canada Masters, he and his camp assumed it was a straight trajectory to the top.

Fast forward to 2022 and he has zero major titles but the legacy of the that infamous rap single for all posterity.
 
clayqueen said:
They have the video evidence so why not use it instead of relying on the umpire alone?
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Going to video review would take too long. It's better for the pace of the game to let the players argue with the ump for a few minutes, and not get the call right.
 
WildRevolver said:
Agreed. It keeps getting worse because there are never any consequences and many fans use tortured logic to forgive them.
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I’m not sure that it “keeps” getting worse. I’m pretty certain McEnroe behaved worse during his playing days. Also I’m not saying that it’s ok for Shapo to behave the way he did, but the call was particularly bad at a critical juncture in the game so his reaction was understandable. The ump could have asked to see the video review if she wasn’t sure, or is that against the rules?

Federer had a similar encounter for a much less obvious case. There’s no way the ball could have been hit with topspin if it was a volley with the racquet facing upward.
 
PistolPete23 said:
I’m not sure that it “keeps” getting worse. I’m pretty certain McEnroe behaved worse during his playing days. Also I’m not "saying" that it’s "ok" for Shapo to behave the way he did, but the call was particularly bad at a critical juncture in the game so his reaction was understandable. The ump could have asked to see the video review if she wasn’t sure, or is that "against" the rules?

Federer had a similar "encounter" for a much less obvious case. There’s no way the ball could have been "hit" with topspin if it was a volley with the racquet "facing" upward.
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I think umpires have to be held to a higher standard. I know, sometimes they tend to dose off on top of that chair, but then that couldn’t be considered a normal occurrence, even if it happens frequently. Tennis players should be held to a higher standard. I mean what kind of scumbag bounces the ball to the ground before it crosses the net, and fails to acknowledge it. To me, this is the most shocking part of this story. I know the other guy is French, so he can be excused, but the guy who committed the fault cannot be excused. Shapovalov didn’t do anything wrong in my book.
 
The opponent who hit the ball into the ground could have avoided the embarrassing situation with the umpire, maned up and admitted he lost the point. Just sitting there and watching Shapovalov argue about a point he should have clearly won is clear cut unsportsmanship if you ask me.

He even celebrated the point after he found out he would get away with it. Makes me cringe.
 
But Shapovalov was completely completely right.... if you cant see such calls, you ****ing shouldn't be the umpire.
I'm not at all pleased with his antics at the AO... started hating him somewhat.... but he is right. She shouldn't be there if she wants to give such calls.
Even if it was a he, he should be sent packing.
 
Arak said:
I think umpires have to be held to a higher standard. I know, sometimes they tend to dose off on top of that chair, but then that couldn’t be considered a normal occurrence, even if it happens frequently. Tennis players should be held to a higher standard. I mean what kind of scumbag bounces the ball to the ground before it crosses the net, and fails to acknowledge it. To me, this is the most shocking part of this story. I know the other guy is French, so he can be excused, but the guy who committed the fault cannot be excused. Shapovalov didn’t do anything wrong in my book.
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The **** lol :laughing:
 
Shapovalov the whiner in this instance was right. Just because he complains all the time doesn't mean he is always wrong.
 
Most of you guys are dead wrong about this whole thing. Look at the replay and think about the angle that the umpire is looking at it from. The body of the guy who hit the ball completely blocks her view of the ball not just at actual impact with his racket but in fact for a little bit before and after impact. Even if she was fully observant and engaged, unless she had x-ray vision to see through his body, there's no way that she could see what happened, and she absolutely made the right call to not call a fault when she couldn't see it. I'm pretty sure there is no allowance for video review. If they had live lines people, rather than Hawkeye lines calling, then maybe she could have asked one of the other lines people whose view wasn't blocked. It is too bad though that the player who hit the shot didn't own up to the fact that it was a fault.
 
WildRevolver said:
“Calmly dispatched” equals insulting and disparaging? Are you even thinking about this objectively or stupidly oversimplifying to forgive awful behavior? This is a gentleman’s game, and his behavior was uncalled for, even if the officials made an error. To think they will not make mistakes is the most foolish frame of mind of all.
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What behaviour was uncalled for?

What insults?

Are you not noticing that no one here agrees with you?

You could't have possibly acted calmer than Shapovalov did for how egregiously bad the call was.
 
dapchai said:
Shapo doesn't need a timeout... he needs more fist pumps and c'mons.
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He needs to listen to coaching. Youzhny really helped him, then Denis went off the boil. I'd love to see McEnroe coach him. A fellow leftie who could help him with volleying and transition game. But its beyond doubtful Mac would coach him full time.
 
He was completely right ... and wasn't screaming or swearing... I just can't believe the other team can do that and not self-report.
 
Forgive Me Father said:
What behaviour was uncalled for?

What insults?

Are you not noticing that no one here agrees with you?

You could't have possibly acted calmer than Shapovalov did for how egregiously bad the call was.
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You clearly didn’t read this thread. Majority agree with me. Now go back to building sand castles.
 
I mean... I don't know how rude and abusive he was without a clip, but he's not exactly wrong, is he? You can't put this down to a judgement call like what happened in Australia, she's literally missing something that's happened right in front of her? They're not hitting around at the park, these people are doing their jobs and making their living, and being governed by someone who is either not paying attention, or with bad eyesight.
 
Okay, I just watched it. There was literally no screaming tirade... He didn't throw a tantrum, and he didn't call her a joke, he said the situation was a joke, which it was. Maybe the OP is the joke and the disgrace here?:-D
 
WildRevolver said:
You clearly didn’t read this thread. Majority agree with me. Now go back to building sand castles.
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Dude, you literally lied to begin the thread.

You said Shapovalov went on a "screaming tirade".

Sure, if people believe that, they might like the thread.

The problem is, that did not happen.

Look, another 2 posters right here who are full of your stupid ****.
 
Forgive Me Father said:
Dude, you literally lied to begin the thread.

You said Shapovalov went on a "screaming tirade".

Sure, if people believe that, they might like the thread.

The problem is, that did not happen.

Look, another 2 posters right here who are full of your stupid ****.
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Yes or no, an official making a mistake is permission for the behavior he displayed?
 
WildRevolver said:
Yes or no, an official making a mistake is permission for the behavior he displayed?
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You're shifting goalposts now.

What happened to his "screaming tirade" ?

If you answer that, I'll give you an answer to your question.

Don't you see that everyone who has watched the incident, thinks you are fundamentally wrong and a complete joke?

Calling for another grown man to have a "timeout" because he disagreed with the umpire in a situation where she was 100% wrong, it cost them the entire game, and he still did not raise his voice?

And you somehow think this is a situation to negatively portray Shapovalov in?


Quite disgusting of you.


You're not a good person.
 
He got upset at an Umpire when they got an obvious call wrong. I’ve seen John McEnroe go berserk on a ref when the ref actually was made the right call.

but I agree that insulting umpires should be a fineable offense. These kids need to learn to channel anger elsewhere. But the way things are set up now, the power is with the players. One of the key characteristics they look for in umpires is a thick skin.
 
Shapo is still playing? I barely register him in draws recently. He needs a time out on the naughty step for stinking up the courts.
 
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