Sharapova Book

Sunny Ali said:
Now Sharapova has started writing books? What is this world coming to :)
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She is the definition of the American Dream, came from extreme hardship & poverty to make herself wealthy via hard work & dedication. Strange that the American public would not admire her for this, guess the cold war never ended.
 
racket king said:
She could clean up her sullied reputation in one fell swoop if she explained this supposed history of heart problems
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Family history of heart problems... You understand how genetics work right?

She's not still dodging, your just linking the same interview over and over thinking your making a new point
 
Chadillac said:
Family history of heart problems... You understand how genetics work right?

She's not still dodging, your just linking the same interview over and over thinking your making a new point
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Yeah? Who? Which family member? What condition specifically? Where's the evidence and data on hereditary effect? Neither of her parents have heart problems as far as I'm aware. Or is she talking about some unknown distant relative from 500 years ago??

What doctors has she seen? Why have none of them come forward with evidence of abnormal EKG results and the history of consultations and treatments? The US leads the world in terms of medical treatment.

Her silence speaks volumes.
 
racket king said:
Yeah? Who? Which family member? What condition specifically? Where the evidence and data on hereditary effect?

What doctors has she seen? Why have none of them come forward with evidence of abnormal EKG results and the history of consultations and treatments? The US leads the world in terms of medical treatment.

Her silence speaks volumes.
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This has all been explained before. Your late to party asking basic questions that were already answered.

Its not worth doing again because people like thundervolley report the thread and gets it deleted.

Asks a question, you give an answer they dont like, goes on racial diatribe, thread gone. Does it again in the next sharapova thread.

Did you even watch her presser? She answered most of your questions almost 2 years ago
 
Chadillac said:
This has all been explained before. Your late to party asking basic questions that were already answered.

Its not worth doing again because people like thundervolley report the thread and gets it deleted.

Asks a question, you give an answer they dont like, goes on racial diatribe, thread gone. Does it again in the next sharapova thread.

Did you even watch her presser? She answered most of your questions almost 2 years ago
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It should take you all of 30 seconds to answer it in that case.

1. Name the relatives and their relationship to her.
2. Name the specific heart condition they have that they have that has been inherited by Sharadopa.
3. Name the doctors that she was treated by in the US and the specific condition which they treated her for.
4. Identify the treatment.

In each case, support your answers with evidence.

Etc etc.

And yes, I've seen her presser, the ITF judgment etc. All she provides are vague or evasive answers.

Like I said already, she could restore her sullied reputation in one fell swoop, yet is unwilling or unable to do so...
 
racket king said:
What doctors has she seen?
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In some interviews, she claimed it was a "family doctor." In other interviews, she claimed it was a "pediatric" doctor. In reality, it was not a pediatric, or family, or cardiac, or diabetes doctor. It was Dr. Skalny who specialized in boosting athletic performance by pharmaceutical products. She started with a special diet and 18 medications and supplements. By 2010, the number of medications and supplements grew to 30. Dr. Skalny advised her to take Meldonium during tournaments and immediately before important matches. Even before this Meldonium saga started, Dr. Skalny publicly stated that her monthly intake of medications and supplements is worth "less than 500-650 dollars" (presumably, in Russian prices). Furthermore, Dr. Skalny used to say to his clients that some of his medications may get banned in the future.

Way back in 2015, Sharapova tested positive for Meldonium 5 times (out of 24 times in total for tennis players that year) and her concentration levels were "huge." When she was banned in 2016, her concentration level was 120 (WADA cut-off concentration level at that point was 15).

Sharapova claimed about the reporting: "I did not feel it was a huge responsibility of mine...;" "I did not feel it was a responsibility to have to write down...;" "I did not think it was of high importance." So, she thought it was highly important to take huge quantities of this drug but it was not important to report it (even though it was required to report.)
 
For those who claim that Meldonium scandal was made to embarrass Russia or Sharapova:

Meldonium competes with the medication called Trimetazidine and they both act in the same manner. Trimetazidine is sold under dozens of different names. Trimetazidine was banned exactly two years BEFORE Meldonium. There are athletes who were sanctioned for the use of Trimetazidine.
 
They are both said to be anti-ischemic drugs so this does not advance the argument as to whether Meldonium itself is a PED.

You need to reference new material.
AllPlayersAreGood said:
For those who claim that Meldonium scandal was made to embarrass Russia or Sharapova:

Meldonium competes with the medication called Trimetazidine and they both act in the same manner. Trimetazidine is sold under dozens of different names. Trimetazidine was banned exactly two years BEFORE Meldonium. There are athletes who were sanctioned for the use of Trimetazidine.
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racket king said:
It should take you all of 30 seconds to answer it in that case.

1. Name the relatives and their relationship to her.
2. Name the specific heart condition they have that they have that has been inherited by Sharadopa.
3. Name the doctors that she was treated by in the US and the specific condition which they treated her for.
4. Identify the treatment.

In each case, support your answers with evidence.

Etc etc.

And yes, I've seen her presser, the ITF judgment etc. All she provides are vague or evasive answers.

Like I said already, she could restore her sullied reputation in one fell swoop, yet is unwilling or unable to do so...
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They have been answered already multiple times. Just do a quick search, you will find the same names i did.

Only you care about her "sullied" rep, her sponsors and fans have moved on. The attendance, court placement and ratings of her matches at the US open certainly puts you and the other haters in the minority.
 
AllPlayersAreGood said:
For those who claim that Meldonium scandal was made to embarrass Russia or Sharapova:

Meldonium competes with the medication called Trimetazidine and they both act in the same manner. Trimetazidine is sold under dozens of different names. Trimetazidine was banned exactly two years BEFORE Meldonium. There are athletes who were sanctioned for the use of Trimetazidine.
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You forget to link the study. Let me guess washington post with no mention of the source, as usual
 
Chadillac said:
You forget to link the study. Let me guess washington post with no mention of the source, as usual
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Same source as above, as they say: straight from the horse's mouth. The official WADA website.
https://www.wada-ama.org/en/prohibited-list/prohibited-at-all-times/hormone-and-metabolic-modulators

Open this page, scroll down on the right panel called "Hormone and metabolic modulators" and you will find:

Meldonium
Trimetazidine

Prohibited at All Times (which means they are banned during competitions and between competitions, i.e. banned altogether).
 
This is the history of the banning of trimetazidine. They seem to have acknowledged that it is not a stimulant, like caffeine, but invented a new category for it.

The bureaucratic classification of a drug still does not tell us why it is a PED, but even the bureaucracy realises, or did realise, it was less effective than a stimulant.

Having invented a new bureaucratic category, WADA then proceeded to further fill it without any real evidence.

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Ben Nichols, WADA Senior Manager of Media Relations, informed Swimming World concerning the banned substance Trimetazidine in the case of Sun Yang. When asked about the banned substance Trimetazidine (Class S.6.b Specified Stimulant) in the Sun case, Nichols wrote “to clarify, under the current list, Trimetazidine is currently prohibited in-competition only until the end of 2014. For the 2015 List, you will see it has moved (to) section S.4.5.”

Nichols further helped clarify the current situation by adding a section of the “Code In-Competition, S6 Stimulants. Some drugs that metabolize… are reclassified because they are now recognized as less likely to be used as doping agents: cathinone… and trimetazidine…”

Essentially, trimetazidine has been reclassified and downgraded. As of January 1, it will not be on the banned stimulant list.

Trimetazidine will be moved from a S.6 Stimulant to S.4 Modulator. “Trimetazidine was originally included in S.6.b. based upon the similarity of its chemical structure to some of the listed Stimulants,” according to WADA information. “It has been moved to the newly created sub-section S4.5.c as it is pharmacologically classified as a modulator of cardiac metabolism.”

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Trimetazidine has been banned in varying levels since 2014, but has never been removed from the WADA Prohibited List, nor has it had its ban softened. In fact, a 2015 reclassification actually created a more forceful ban on Trimetazidine.

The drug came back into public conversation this month in the ongoing war of words between swimmers like Mack Horton and Lilly King and other athletes they publicly called out as dopers or drug cheats.

One primary target for that criticism was China’s Sun Yang, who won the 200 free in Rio. In comment section discussions about Sun’s spat with Horton, a number of comments incorrectly referenced Sun’s 2014 ban for trimetazidine, claiming the substance had been reclassified and was now legal. It’s true that the substance has been reclassified, but that move actually caused the substance to be banned even more strictly by WADA, not for it to become legal again.

Here’s the full trimetazidine timeline:

2014
In 2014, WADA first added Trimetazidine to its banned substances list, classifying the heart medication as a stimulant. Other banned substances in that classification include ephedrine, amfetamines and cocaine. (2014 WADA Prohibited List)

At that time, trimetazidine was only prohibited in-competition, meaning an athlete would fail a drug test for having it in his or her system in an anti-doping test performed at a meet, but would not fail a test if the substance was detected at an out-of-competition test away from a meet setting.

In May of 2014, Sun was banned for 3 months by the Chinese swimming federation after testing positive for the substance. Sun said then, and still maintains, that the substance was part of a medication he took for a heart condition and that he did not know it had become illegal a few months earlier.

2015
The next year, trimetazidine was reclassified by WADA as a metabolic modulator. That change made trimetazidine illegal both in- and out-of-competition. (2015 WADA Prohibited List)

2016
This year, the substance remains banned as a metabolic modulator and is still illegal both in-competition and out.
 
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Black Pepper is a PED, it seems.

More importantly, the active ingredients of trimetazidine and mildronate are not the same.

I keep reading that Mildronate inhibits carnitine, which is needed for performance enhancement.

Piperazines were originally named because of their chemical similarity with piperidine, part of the structure of piperine in the black pepper plant (Piper nigrum). It is important to note, however, that piperazines are not derived from plants in the Piper genus.

Many currently notable drugs contain a piperazine ring as part of their molecular structure. Examples include:

Antianginals

Antidepressants

Antihistamines

Antiserotonergics

Antipsychotics

Recreational Drugs

Urologicals

Others

Most of these agents can be classified as either phenylpiperazines, benzylpiperazines, diphenylmethylpiperazines (benzhydrylpiperazines), pyridinylpiperazines, pyrimidinylpiperazines, or tricyclics (with the piperazine ring attached to the heterocyclic moiety via a side chain).
 
racket king said:
Sharadodger:

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-...till-dodging-question-about-meldonium/8959478

She could clean up her sullied reputation in one fell swoop if she explained this supposed history of heart problems, what steps she took to have it treated in the US (with its vastly superior medical expertise), and what drug, if any, she's taking now.

Her silence is damning.
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racket king said:
Yeah? Who? Which family member? What condition specifically? Where's the evidence and data on hereditary effect? Neither of her parents have heart problems as far as I'm aware. Or is she talking about some unknown distant relative from 500 years ago??

What doctors has she seen? Why have none of them come forward with evidence of abnormal EKG results and the history of consultations and treatments? The US leads the world in terms of medical treatment.

Her silence speaks volumes.
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AllPlayersAreGood said:
In some interviews, she claimed it was a "family doctor." In other interviews, she claimed it was a "pediatric" doctor. In reality, it was not a pediatric, or family, or cardiac, or diabetes doctor. It was Dr. Skalny who specialized in boosting athletic performance by pharmaceutical products. She started with a special diet and 18 medications and supplements. By 2010, the number of medications and supplements grew to 30. Dr. Skalny advised her to take Meldonium during tournaments and immediately before important matches. Even before this Meldonium saga started, Dr. Skalny publicly stated that her monthly intake of medications and supplements is worth "less than 500-650 dollars" (presumably, in Russian prices). Furthermore, Dr. Skalny used to say to his clients that some of his medications may get banned in the future.

Way back in 2015, Sharapova tested positive for Meldonium 5 times (out of 24 times in total for tennis players that year) and her concentration levels were "huge." When she was banned in 2016, her concentration level was 120 (WADA cut-off concentration level at that point was 15).

Sharapova claimed about the reporting: "I did not feel it was a huge responsibility of mine...;" "I did not feel it was a responsibility to have to write down...;" "I did not think it was of high importance." So, she thought it was highly important to take huge quantities of this drug but it was not important to report it (even though it was required to report.)
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What you omit to mention is Sharapova didn't like the amount of things Skainy had her on & cut all ties with him at the end of 2012. It is irrelevant whether she had Meldonium in her body in 2015 because it was totally legal as it always had been. Yeah, again she has been punished for her error.
 
Tennis_Hands said:
The fakeness, the grimace, the "beauty".

That is cringeworthy.

:cool:
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Could be worse though - it could be when her face is without any makeup and looking like this:

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People see the Photoshopped magazine spreads and think she's good looking but she's actually pretty rough looking in person with bad skin.
 
racket king said:
Could be worse though - it could be when her face is without any makeup and looking like this:

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People see the Photoshopped magazine spreads and think she's good looking but she's actually pretty rough looking in person with pretty bad skin.
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Side effects of long-term meldonium usage? ;)

Suspect most players don't look half as good as their photoshopped images though! :cool:
 
Mainad said:
Side effects of long-term meldonium usage? ;)

Suspect most players don't look half as good as their photoshopped images though! :cool:
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Bouchard would be an example of someone who looks amazing in person. Genuinely very healthy looking. She's absolutely tiny/delicate though - she seems alot bigger/taller on TV.

Sharadopa on the other hand looks rough in real life. Taller than a bean stalk and with bad skin and NFL shoulders.

She's also got flabby cellulite legs:

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racket king said:
Could be worse though - it could be when her face is without any makeup and looking like this:

TC9S408.jpg


People see the Photoshopped magazine spreads and think she's good looking but she's actually pretty rough looking in person with bad skin.
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The more images of her I see the lower my estimate about her appearance gets.

I must have been influenced by those shiny ads as well.

All is good though.

:cool:
 
As I have told you previously, this effect is a 'faulty illusion', as you woould say.

She does not have 'flabby cellulite legs'.
racket king said:
Bouchard would be an example of someone who looks amazing in person. Genuinely very healthy looking. She's absolutely tiny/delicate though - she seems alot bigger/taller on TV.

Sharadopa on the other hand looks rough in real life. Taller than a bean stalk and with bad skin and NFL shoulders.

She's also got flabby cellulite legs:

1030708_20150512_rzz_6894120515_1.jpg
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racket king said:
Bouchard would be an example of someone who looks amazing in person. Genuinely very healthy looking. She's absolutely tiny/delicate though - she seems alot bigger/taller on TV.

Sharadopa on the other hand looks rough in real life. Taller than a bean stalk and with bad skin and NFL shoulders.

She's also got flabby cellulite legs:

1030708_20150512_rzz_6894120515_1.jpg
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Can't we see the top half of this photo to prove it's her? Seems hard to imagine Dimitrov ever going out with someone who has legs like that! :eek:
 
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