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Moon Shooter said:
Thanks creighton. Im trying. But I was originally thinking I would gradually improve different aspects of my game. But instead I find I work on one aspect then the rest of my game falls apart. I do feel like my game has improved over the last 9 months even if my rating doesn’t show it. I’m going to try to get some coaching on my net game and serve mechanics.

if anyone else sees some glaring issues a coach can help with I will add that to the list.
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It happens. That's what makes tennis so hard and why the good players are so great. It's so hard to do everything at once. Last year I was one of the best 3.5 singles players in Southern. I basically took a year off from playing and now I'm in a new section and can barely win a game at 4.0. I even played a 3.5 in a tournament and I fell apart mentally in the tiebreak. I let his pushing style revert me back from being aggressive to trying to outpush him. You can imagine how that worked out considering he's been playing multiple times a week for years while it was my 5th time playing in a year.

I know it's not in your nature, but you should really take a step back and quit worrying about the rating so much. Just enjoy the process. That's why I told you to focus on 3.0. I think you would have had a much more enjoyable experience playing (and likely winning) at 3.0. USTA is fun because of the competitive and challenging matches. It's not fun because you want to boost your rating to a certain level.
 
Creighton said:
Last year I was one of the best 3.5 singles players in Southern. I basically took a year off from playing and now I'm in a new section and can barely win a game at 4.0. I even played a 3.5 in a tournament and I fell apart mentally in the tiebreak. I let his pushing style revert me back from being aggressive to trying to outpush him.
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Story of my whole tennis experience to date, though incrementally I improve all the time and over time. To me what has been big swing from REALLY good, to REALLY bad, I now have less highs and lows and a more consistent game. I still have games I just ain't mentally or physically in it and I can lose to anyone on those days, but they are much less frequent overall and do find more ways to impose my game style and such over falling back and letting an opponent dictate play.
 
Creighton said:
It happens. That's what makes tennis so hard and why the good players are so great. It's so hard to do everything at once. Last year I was one of the best 3.5 singles players in Southern. I basically took a year off from playing and now I'm in a new section and can barely win a game at 4.0. I even played a 3.5 in a tournament and I fell apart mentally in the tiebreak. I let his pushing style revert me back from being aggressive to trying to outpush him. You can imagine how that worked out considering he's been playing multiple times a week for years while it was my 5th time playing in a year.

I know it's not in your nature, but you should really take a step back and quit worrying about the rating so much. Just enjoy the process. That's why I told you to focus on 3.0. I think you would have had a much more enjoyable experience playing (and likely winning) at 3.0. USTA is fun because of the competitive and challenging matches. It's not fun because you want to boost your rating to a certain level.
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My friend set up a 3.0 team this year and there is one other team as well so I will play at that level. The other team is like 3 hours away so we only play two double headers about halfway between our towns. I had to miss the first one because I was out of town. The second one is mid July. I think he has me at singles so we will see.

I have no complaints at the 3.5 level. I'm at the lower half of my team and my singles results weren't as good as I'd like, but the other teams better players tend to play singles since the singles match counts for a whole court. The only reason I played singles, when I did, is because no one else was willing to play singles.
 
Lose the dampener ;). Serve and forehand, patting the ball a little to get it in, serve is pat it down, forehand sometimes is a scoop sometimes, elbow bent and racket head facing 45 degrees to scoop the ball up into the court. Try a concept on both of under, up to, through and around with a follow through., however you want to accomplish that. Ypur weight transfer on serve is a good start.
 
Who doesn’t love a match that ends in a good old meltdown. He did not finish the match, retired down 1/6, 0/3 (more like he quit) I’m the guy in the hat.


gotta say, I unleashed my inner Delpo on that forehand at 2:57
 
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kevin qmto said:
Who doesn’t love a match that ends in a good old meltdown. He did not finish the match, retired down 1/6, 0/3 (more like he quit) I’m the guy in the hat.


gotta say, I unleashed my inner Delpo on that forehand at 2:57
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Nice forehand !
 
kevin qmto said:
Who doesn’t love a match that ends in a good old meltdown. He did not finish the match, retired down 1/6, 0/3 (more like he quit) I’m the guy in the hat.


gotta say, I unleashed my inner Delpo on that forehand at 2:57
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Amazing, "that was a good volley". He was almost about to realize you were in total control. Why was he grunting on that serve, that would confuse the **** out of me playing him.
 
Creighton said:
What's your rating?
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I’ve only played a single season of 4.0 USTA and I joined partly through it. I went 6-2 in singles. The only people I lost to had some 4.5 level experience.
I usually identify as a 4.5 on a good day and 4.0 on any other kind of day.
 
kevin qmto said:
Who doesn’t love a match that ends in a good old meltdown. He did not finish the match, retired down 1/6, 0/3 (more like he quit) I’m the guy in the hat.


gotta say, I unleashed my inner Delpo on that forehand at 2:57
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Man, what the ****? The goddamn... ****ing... return is too goddamn ****ing shallow!

Sorry...

:-D
 
Very close match, lost 4-6, 6-7(3) (I'm in the orange). Looking forward to playing him again.
Peep the perfect underarm serve at 2:10
 
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tennis doggo said:
NTRP 4.5? 5.0?
what do you think?

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Nice smooth consistency. Socks are too high. Overheads, I want to hear the crack of the ball hitting the racket like someone was shot, get some overhead practice in. Everyone misses overheads, but what was going on around the 1:30 mark?!?! You should be killing that thing harder than your serve and it looks like your arm became a deflated balloon tapping the lob. Work on that, get mean! Some other overheads were kind of like that. I guess you are 4.5 or want to go there, the overhead looks so different compared to the rest of your game, need to drill some on it. :)
 
1st singles match of the new season! I've started adding slomo replays on close or controversial moments during the match, or sometimes just because I find a moment funny lol.

The guy might have been older, but he was in great shape for a man his age, and cudos to him for sticking with singles. But eventually he starts getting down on himself and that let me pull away in the 2nd. I hit some great shots in this match, but I started slow for sure. Missed far too many forehands trying to tee off. But in the 2nd set, those same forehands started hitting their marks! LMK what you think!

Me: guy in yellow w/ hat
Racket: Adidas Barricade
 
kevin qmto said:
1st singles match of the new season! I've started adding slomo replays on close or controversial moments during the match, or sometimes just because I find a moment funny lol.

The guy might have been older, but he was in great shape for a man his age, and cudos to him for sticking with singles. But eventually he starts getting down on himself and that let me pull away in the 2nd. I hit some great shots in this match, but I started slow for sure. Missed far too many forehands trying to tee off. But in the 2nd set, those same forehands started hitting their marks! LMK what you think!

Me: guy in yellow w/ hat
Racket: Adidas Barricade
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Is this video sped up?
 
kevin qmto said:
1st singles match of the new season! I've started adding slomo replays on close or controversial moments during the match, or sometimes just because I find a moment funny lol.

The guy might have been older, but he was in great shape for a man his age, and cudos to him for sticking with singles. But eventually he starts getting down on himself and that let me pull away in the 2nd. I hit some great shots in this match, but I started slow for sure. Missed far too many forehands trying to tee off. But in the 2nd set, those same forehands started hitting their marks! LMK what you think!

Me: guy in yellow w/ hat
Racket: Adidas Barricade
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I only watched maybe a third of it, but my impression:
Older guy has slow feet but was able to get to most of your balls - via good anticipation, plus you were hitting a lot to the center of the court.
Notice how you were needing to move so much more than him.
Your strokes are solid, and your movement is good. So I think what you need to work on is placement and point construction.
 
Chalkdust said:
I only watched maybe a third of it, but my impression:
Older guy has slow feet but was able to get to most of your balls - via good anticipation, plus you were hitting a lot to the center of the court.
Notice how you were needing to move so much more than him.
Your strokes are solid, and your movement is good. So I think what you need to work on is placement and point construction.
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I’ll be the first to say this isn’t the best match from me (though I do end up playing better and record a bagel in set 2). I get a bit uncomfortable at times early, and felt like I was missing when I was going for angles. Against an older player like this, I’ll tend to take my chances and play it safe during rallies, thinking my speed is enough and he can’t blow me off the court. The main shot I lose confidence in is my two handed backhand. I really just start slicing almost everything, and in practices I don’t really play like that at all. But 1 or 2 bad misses in a match and I give up on the shot too easily.
 
kevin qmto said:
I’ll be the first to say this isn’t the best match from me (though I do end up playing better and record a bagel in set 2). I get a bit uncomfortable at times early, and felt like I was missing when I was going for angles. Against an older player like this, I’ll tend to take my chances and play it safe during rallies, thinking my speed is enough and he can’t blow me off the court. The main shot I lose confidence in is my two handed backhand. I really just start slicing almost everything, and in practices I don’t really play like that at all. But 1 or 2 bad misses in a match and I give up on the shot too easily.
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If you were deliberately playing conservatively because you knew the match is well at hand, and you can employ better placement and point construction if needed, then that's fair enough.
To me though it just seemed that you were making things harder than necessary for yourself by playing so many balls into the middle of the court where he didn't have to move much.
Not trying to be critical, just offering feedback based on what I saw.
 

Me and my friend, I'm the one closer to camera. We are both 4.5. My backhand doesn't feel good and my footwork is probably not good. Anything you can point out? Thanks!
 
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onehandbh said:
What kind of courts are these? Are they synthetic grass?
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Synthetic grass with very fine sand on top. You can markedly change it's behaviour depending on how much sand you add, and due to weather condition. It was a relatively dry warm day, so the bounce was good with medium sand, and the speed wasn't too fast. The cooler it gets, the lower the bounce and the faster the court speed. The more sand, the slower it goes and higher the bounce. If you go nuts with the sand, it can be similar to a clay court, but a bit slippery by comparison. We were using Dunlop Fort balls, which just die after the first set, and are never really very bouncy, but take spin very well and are slow to start. This surface is very, very easy on the joints.

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For inquiring minds - The man in blue is using a Head Prestige MP-L strung with poly and PSG. The man in white, whom is a bud of mine, is using a CV Blade 18X20 full poly.
I think I have a pic of his sticks and mine somewhere...

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WYK said:
Synthetic grass with very fine sand on top. You can markedly change it's behaviour depending on how much sand you add, and due to weather condition. It was a relatively dry warm day, so the bounce was good with medium sand, and the speed wasn't too fast. The cooler it gets, the lower the bounce and the faster the court speed. The more sand, the slower it goes and higher the bounce. If you go nuts with the sand, it can be similar to a clay court, but a bit slippery by comparison. We were using Dunlop Fort balls, which just die after the first set, and are never really very bouncy, but take spin very well and are slow to start. This surface is very, very easy on the joints.
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It looks similar to the green synthetic grass court at the place I'm at this week. Will get a chance to play on it later this week. I'll try and take a video.

I've hit on a synthetic grass court before and found it a bit challenging as it seems to be quite fast. I guess that must mean that it had less sand?
 
onehandbh said:
It looks similar to the green synthetic grass court at the place I'm at this week. Will get a chance to play on it later this week. I'll try and take a video.

I've hit on a synthetic grass court before and found it a bit challenging as it seems to be quite fast. I guess that must mean that it had less sand?
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Yeah, but even if it has a lot of sand, it will always be faster than most hard courts, unless that sand is coarse. The one I play on in Waterford and Tipperary are like a very fast clay court. Good bounce in warm weather, but still rather quick.
You need to wear the proper shoes to play on the surface. Hard court shoes will invite disaster. You need at least the grip and slip of a clay court shoe, or a padel shoe(which I don;t think has caught on stateside yet?) with the OMNI shoe being the most highly suggested pattern. Nowadays, the Omni pattern can also be found on some clay shoes. I find omni works better on very dusty clay than standard clay shoes. But I really do not play much on clay, so others may differ.

Now, freshly sanded and in warm weather, they can be a delight to play on. Very easy on the joints. But neared the end of the season or in poor weather, it is a slice fest.
 
Freshly sanded in the spring, even in cool weather, the bounce isn't bad, and the court is as slow as it's gonna be.
 
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WYK said:
Synthetic grass with very fine sand on top. You can markedly change it's behaviour depending on how much sand you add, and due to weather condition. It was a relatively dry warm day, so the bounce was good with medium sand, and the speed wasn't too fast. The cooler it gets, the lower the bounce and the faster the court speed. The more sand, the slower it goes and higher the bounce. If you go nuts with the sand, it can be similar to a clay court, but a bit slippery by comparison. We were using Dunlop Fort balls, which just die after the first set, and are never really very bouncy, but take spin very well and are slow to start. This surface is very, very easy on the joints.

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Yeah, they’re called Omnicourt right? I got some near my house in the states. I enjoy playing on them.
 
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kevin qmto said:
Yeah, they’re called Omnicourt right? I got some near my house in the states. I enjoy playing on them.
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Another thing to consider is balls make a big difference on this surface.

Slazengers are nasty on synthetic - low bounce, tight felt, fast AF. We all avoid them. It seems counter-intuitive since they are made for grass, I know, but we avoid them. Good if you wanna play like it's 1989 - and some here do.
Fort balls, and a few other Dunlops, are lively at first, but die quick. Fluff up only slightly, but enough to slow them down a lot after a few games. They are lively enough at first they can really take you by surprise when new balls come out.
Head XT are similar, but fluff up just a bit more which slows them down some(and fluff up a LOT when it's damp) - which is almost always a good thing on this surface unless yer all about the flat serve. Not great bounce once they go all fluffed, though.
Head tour (penn marathon) are excellent on this surface, and fluff up just enough to slow them down for enjoyable play, but like all marathon balls, have a slightly heavier feel to them and not quite as spinny as some others. Great bounce until you lose them nearly.
US Open HD are sort of an acquired taste. They do not fluff, and in fact appear to lose their covering as they play, which makes them a rather fast ball on this surface. They sort of compensate with their great bounce, but still, a rather fast ball for synthetic since there's not much to grab on to to slow it. I win a lot of points on serve with these, and get a fair amount of second serve aces. I made the mistake of playing one of the younger kids the other day with this ball, and it was exhausting.

The fluff thing is important because, although you can't say synthetic is abrasive like modern gritted hard court or clay, it does have spiny little plastic strands and grit in it that both causes balls to fluff and grabs them when they do.
But likely more importantly, it slows the feckers down. So how a ball fluffs up really helps determine how it plays on synthetic. Some non clay balls will grab some of the grit and slow down even more(Head XT do this, and Dunlops to an extent). Because of this, I haven't tried clay court balls. But a few at the club swear by them. So gonna order a few in the next batch here.
 
kevin qmto said:
Yeah, they’re called Omnicourt right? I got some near my house in the states. I enjoy playing on them.
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Correct, omni court. I only knew it is also called omnicourt when I ordered shoes for synthetic grass court from Rakuten online shop many years ago. All of the shoes for synthetic grass court in that online shopping app are called Omnicourt shoes or omni shoes.
 
WYK said:
Another thing to consider is balls make a big difference on this surface.

Slazengers are nasty on synthetic - low bounce, tight felt, fast AF. We all avoid them. It seems counter-intuitive since they are made for grass, I know, but we avoid them. Good if you wanna play like it's 1989 - and some here do.
Fort balls, and a few other Dunlops, are lively at first, but die quick. Fluff up only slightly, but enough to slow them down a lot after a few games. They are lively enough at first they can really take you by surprise when new balls come out.
Head XT are similar, but fluff up just a bit more which slows them down some(and fluff up a LOT when it's damp) - which is almost always a good thing on this surface unless yer all about the flat serve. Not great bounce once they go all fluffed, though.
Head tour (penn marathon) are excellent on this surface, and fluff up just enough to slow them down for enjoyable play, but like all marathon balls, have a slightly heavier feel to them and not quite as spinny as some others. Great bounce until you lose them nearly.
US Open HD are sort of an acquired taste. They do not fluff, and in fact appear to lose their covering as they play, which makes them a rather fast ball on this surface. They sort of compensate with their great bounce, but still, a rather fast ball for synthetic since there's not much to grab on to to slow it. I win a lot of points on serve with these, and get a fair amount of second serve aces. I made the mistake of playing one of the younger kids the other day with this ball, and it was exhausting.

The fluff thing is important because, although you can't say synthetic is abrasive like modern gritted hard court or clay, it does have spiny little plastic strands and grit in it that both causes balls to fluff and grabs them when they do.
But likely more importantly, it slows the feckers down. So how a ball fluffs up really helps determine how it plays on synthetic. Some non clay balls will grab some of the grit and slow down even more(Head XT do this, and Dunlops to an extent). Because of this, I haven't tried clay court balls. But a few at the club swear by them. So gonna order a few in the next batch here.
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I also play on synthetic grass court everyday. Slazenger Wimbledon is my favourite ball though because they last longer. They do fluff quickly but they maintain their good bounce longer compared to other available balls here.

The Slazenger Wimbledon balls are great on AO surface courts, because the court surface shave the fluff off the ball.
 
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