Shelton still acting as immature as two years ago

yeah i think shelton is pretty funny. I saw his youtube short with bose so i find him funny. Though, he's not on my level. In interviews with the old ppl in grand slams, he comes off like he's trying to perform his funny. I would never feel like i need to impress someone. More like end them
 
leodevlin said:
It's sad that you have to make baseless accusations to drag Sinner down.

As if Shelton has not or would not be sleeping around with pretty girls .

Most players including his biggest rival Alcaraz don't believe that he did steroids on purpose and lying to the pope is obviously rectum derived.

Whatever makes you feel better pal
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I made zero baseless accusations in the post you quoted. There are fabrications in the ITIA files, fact. Sinner has been sleeping around with clout chasing models, fact. Sinner lied to the pope, fact, sinner said to his team (and i’m paraphrasing) “now it’s your turn to have shít shoved down your throat”, fact. He has failed two drug tests, fact.

I don’t need to feel better about anything. As long as I know the facts.
 
AndrewUtz said:
I made zero baseless accusations in the post you quoted. There are fabrications in the ITIA files, fact. Sinner has been sleeping around with clout chasing models, fact. Sinner lied to the pope, fact, sinner said to his team (and i’m paraphrasing) “now it’s your turn to have shít shoved down your throat”, fact. He has failed two drug tests, fact.

I don’t need to feel better about anything. As long as I know the facts.
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You saying FACT in bold doesn't make it a fact . Fact!
 
AndrewUtz said:
fact. Sinner lied to the pope
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Better_Call_Raul said:
These courtside interviews came about very recently, as a result of the pandemic. Ticket-buyers did not demand it.
It is best to now do away with them. Nobody will complain. The post-match conferences make them redundant.
It is also concerning how they stand 10 feet away as if there was still a virus outbreak. Very odd.
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Wimbledon began conducting courtside interviews with players after matches in 2021. This change was introduced as a response to the COVID-19 pandemic, specifically to maintain social distancing and minimize the risk of virus transmission in enclosed spaces. Before 2021, post-match interviews at Wimbledon were typically conducted in press rooms.
The on-court interviews were initially considered a temporary measure prompted by health concerns.
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the clot shotter supporters love to follow their overlords and most still believe in mythical germ theory
its for the good of the herd they will bleat like good little parrots.

I reckon interview the loser instead as punishment :)
 
Due to this thread, I looked up the on-court interview - pasted below.
OP, either you are not telling the truth or you let your dislike of Shelton affect your hearing.
The interviewer even said before the final question, "One final thing" or maybe it was "One final question."
Shelton handled it all with confidence and some slightly-cheeky humor. It was terrific.

 
RaulRamirez said:
Due to this thread, I looked up the on-court interview - pasted below.
OP, either you are not telling the truth or you let your dislike of Shelton affect your hearing.
The interviewer even said before the final question, "One final thing" or maybe it was "One final question."
Shelton handled it all with confidence and some slightly-cheeky humor. It was terrific.

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Ok ,I genuinely missed that, my bad.

I stand corrected.
 
Having Shelton is good for the game. He may not appeal to the OP, or a number of players, but he’s just one flavor of tennis that a lot of people like (myself included) and brings new fans in.

Not saying people have to like Shelton, but no one will ever convince me that having a million emotionless robots is healthy for our sport. We need both the robots and expressive players alike. Just look at the epic McEnroe/Borg/Llendl and how epic those matches were BECAUSE of the dichotomy of personality
 
TheBoom said:
Having Shelton is good for the game. He may not appeal to the OP, or a number of players, but he’s just one flavor of tennis that a lot of people like (myself included) and brings new fans in.

Not saying people have to like Shelton, but no one will ever convince me that having a million emotionless robots is healthy for our sport. We need both the robots and expressive players alike. Just look at the epic McEnroe/Borg/Llendl and how epic those matches were BECAUSE of the dichotomy of personality
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Noone is advocating for lack of emotions. This is about the frequency and timing of his exaggerated self hyping gestures after the most insignificant points.

Djokovic Displays a lot of emotions but it's revealed at the right time during a clutch point and or usually when he feels disrespected by the crowd or the other player.

Cheering yourself on in your opponents face when you already dominating him or doing the stupid phone gesture to his buddy is just selfish and shows lack of empathy.

But I get that some people are ok with this.
 
leodevlin said:
Noone is advocating for lack of emotions. This is about the frequency and timing of his exaggerated self hyping gestures after the most insignificant points.

Djokovic Displays a lot of emotions but it's revealed at the right time during a clutch point and or usually when he feels disrespected by the crowd or the other player.

Cheering yourself on in your opponents face when you already dominating him or doing the stupid phone gesture to his buddy is just selfish and shows lack of empathy.

But I get that some people are ok with this.
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As long as he can produce result he can do any gesture he want.
Results are more important than on court drama. Tennis needs characters of all type . Heroes villians comedian side actor all are needed.
Shelton has game to win against best players but how strong he is mentally is the question.
 
leodevlin said:
He has given up the "phone hang up" cringe but after two years he is as insufferable as ever.

In today's game where he was clearly dominating Fuchsovic, he still is chest beating , putting his hand to his ear for an average lob , shouting like a madman after match point like it was the most competitive match of his career.

Looked like he was exaggerating these immature gestures even more due to his girlfriend watching .

On top of all that , he rudely and abrasively ends the court side interview when it was clear that the interviewer wasn't done yet

Can't wait until one the more classier European players kicks his ass, his grotesque jock behaviour make it really hard to root for him.
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On-court interviews are the world's dumbest thing.

There is already the pre-match commentary, awkward pre-match hallway interview, post match press commentary, post match ESPN or TTC interview, then endless commentary, do you really need the on-court interview as well? They should all cut it short abruptly then maybe the networks will show a little more actual tennis.
 
leodevlin said:
He has given up the "phone hang up" cringe but after two years he is as insufferable as ever.

In today's game where he was clearly dominating Fuchsovic, he still is chest beating , putting his hand to his ear for an average lob , shouting like a madman after match point like it was the most competitive match of his career.

Looked like he was exaggerating these immature gestures even more due to his girlfriend watching .

On top of all that , he rudely and abrasively ends the court side interview when it was clear that the interviewer wasn't done yet

Can't wait until one the more classier European players kicks his ass, his grotesque jock behaviour make it really hard to root for him.
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Nah, Shelton's entertaining. I like his game.

NIce to have him in the mix for slams. Hope he becomes a constant fixture in the top 10.
 
Ben is one of the biggest drawcards in tennis now. Brings a 1000% intensity everytine he steps on court, peaks for the majors and always looks like he is having the time of his life while doing it.

His game looks a bit different from everyone else on tour at the monent and he makes things happen in a very explosive way.

Hard not to like the guy, and honestly it seems like even the haters want to watch him play. He is pure box office in a way that tennis desperately needs at the moment.
 
leodevlin said:
He has given up the "phone hang up" cringe but after two years he is as insufferable as ever.

In today's game where he was clearly dominating Fuchsovic, he still is chest beating , putting his hand to his ear for an average lob , shouting like a madman after match point like it was the most competitive match of his career.

Looked like he was exaggerating these immature gestures even more due to his girlfriend watching .

On top of all that , he rudely and abrasively ends the court side interview when it was clear that the interviewer wasn't done yet

Can't wait until one the more classier European players kicks his ass, his grotesque jock behaviour make it really hard to root for him.
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I didnt know celebrating winning your own points was a bad thing tbh. I dont know why yall want just want people to act like "dignified" or whatever and not let their emotions out in a healthy way. He wasnt being rude to his opponent at all. The phone hang cant be construed as disrespectful, but not chest pumping and being super pumped up. I swear introverts dont understand that Shelton is a high energy guy, and an American (im not an american btw) and this is very normal celebration for them. Go look at NBA or NFL and this is what they do and I have never had a problem with that, nor with Shelton. Yall want tennis players to act like federer or sinner all the time and then wonder why tennis isnt more popular. Ridiculous
 
Better_Call_Raul said:
Courtside interviews are useless and need to be scrapped.

That said, do not see that Ben did anything improper during his interview. What are the malcontents whining about?
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I think a lot of the posters here are maybe european and maybe they dont like the american way of celebration (i can understand it seeming a bit aggressive to europeans), but then see these same europeans acting even crazier than americans when celebrating their football team's wins. Just comes off very hypocritical to me. Btw i am not from the US. This is just my POV from a neutral guy
 
norcal said:
I just watched the interview, he was funny, engaging and didn't cut it off early at all! Better than most of the generic post match interviews.

OP just say you hate Ben, that's ok, but there was nothing wrong with that interview.
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People are complaining all the time about boring sinner Fedal type PC interviews and then when they see someone answer questions differently, theyre whining about that too
 
leodevlin said:
It's your opinion that the interviews are cringy.

This is not about my wishes , but the lack of manners .
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Where are your manners, youre using the english language and not using the correct grammar while communicating in it. See how ridiculous i sound?
 
leodevlin said:
Are you American?
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Knew it. You have a problem with americans, not shelton. Hey i dont mind, im not american, but just say this rather than singling out shelton, who the vast majority of people here (and tennis around the world) like. Dont be this man. Youll grow up and realise what youre doing is kind of not ok
 
AndrewUtz said:
sinner i believe said something recently to his box like “now it’s your turn to get shìt pushed down your throat” also someone who who goes around sleeping with clout chasing models, fails drug tests, lies to the pope, and lies in the ITIA files for his case, doesn’t seem all that classy to me. but that’s perfectly fine if you don’t like shelton, but many don’t share the same sentiment, and while he is more lively on the court than the wet blanket that is sinner, he is in no way less classy than him.
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Sinner is the most boring personality i have ever seen on a tennis court, and I have lived through the Fedal SUPPER PC era. Atleast Sinner's game used to be exciting but thanks to Cahill, even that is so ridiculously boring now until he has to start hitting big consistently against Alcaraz because being a miserable pusher doesnt work against alcaraz
 
MichaelNadal said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1941606677146403052
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I know that's not the point of your post, but i just want to say that i dont agree with the fact that slams define you. Slams count more for the very best players ever, but people like Shelton, who probably wont win a slam ever, and who are the 99.999% players ever, every tournament counts. the 1000s, 500s and 250s count more for these players, than for the biggest names. I dont why slams get so much more importance in the last 5-7 years now, when I distinctly remember Fedalovic taking all the masters 1000s and 500s they played extremely seriously. They didnt treat those tournaments as warm ups for the slams. I perosnally dont like this new only slams matter culture
 
Apun94 said:
Knew it. You have a problem with americans, not shelton. Hey i dont mind, im not american, but just say this rather than singling out shelton, who the vast majority of people here (and tennis around the world) like. Dont be this man. Youll grow up and realise what youre doing is kind of not ok
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You should be ashamed for accusing me of anti Americanism trying to score some cheap points.

I have gone out of my way starting posts praising American players like Tommy Paul bring very likeable and classy.

I also was a fan of Mac and Connors who had outbursts of emotions on the court and am a fan of a lot of the US women like Pegula, Fair etc who never act like this

Instead of being intellectually lazy and/or dishonest, cluster posting worthless drivel, understand the actual point of this post and try to disagree respectfully instead of attacking me as a person.

Noone cares that Shelton is pumping himself up but the manner in which he does it and the timing of it is just irritating as hell . You would never see Mac, with all his temper tantrums yell like a madman , fist pumping at 40:15 when leading 2 sets and a break already.

Hope you got it now
 
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TheBoom said:
Having Shelton is good for the game. He may not appeal to the OP, or a number of players, but he’s just one flavor of tennis that a lot of people like (myself included) and brings new fans in.

Not saying people have to like Shelton, but no one will ever convince me that having a million emotionless robots is healthy for our sport. We need both the robots and expressive players alike. Just look at the epic McEnroe/Borg/Llendl and how epic those matches were BECAUSE of the dichotomy of personality
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Are Alcaraz, Medvedev Rune , Zverev Djokovic all emotionless robots ?
 
leodevlin said:
You should be ashamed for accusing me of anti Americanism trying to score some cheap points.

I have gone out of my way starting posts praising American players like Tommy Paul bring very likeable and classy.

I also was a fan of Mac and Connors who had outbursts of emotions on the court and am a fan of a lot of the US women like Pegula, Fair etc who never act like this

Instead of being intellectually lazy and/or dishonest, cluster posting worthless drivel, understand the actual point of this post and try to disagree respectfully instead of attacking me as a person.

Noone cares that Shelton is pumping himself up but the manner in which he does it and the timing of it is just irritating as hell . You would never see Mac, with all his temper tantrums yell like a madman , fist pumping at 40:15 when leading 2 sets and a break already.

Hope you got it now
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I guess we all have different thresholds, and we also bend them for those we like for whatever reasons.
You lost me right away with your criticism of his on-court interview. When I posted the video in reply, you admitted that you were wrong about it, but that misjudgment seems to still be part of the "calculus" here.

In truth, I wouldn't mind if he toned down some of his mid-match celebrations, but here's the thing. When I started following tennis, there were Nastase, Connors and McEnroe -- all of whom exhibited behavior that was much worse than anything Ben has brought to the court. Each of them could be disrespectful and pugnacious to their opponents and highly disrespectful to the officials. Ben's exuberance can cross into disrespect for his opponents (debatable) but I have not seen him be disrespectful to officials, media or fans.

As a kid, I forgave it in Nastase, as he could be entertaining and charming, and had so much talent. While I now like Johnny Mac, I found him difficult to root for -- other than his sublime game. He was "Superbrat" and many forgave Connors as he was so intensely competitive. But again, compared to all of them, Shelton is a Boy Scout.
 
leodevlin said:
You should be ashamed for accusing me of anti Americanism trying to score some cheap points.

I have gone out of my way starting posts praising American players like Tommy Paul bring very likeable and classy.

I also was a fan of Mac and Connors who had outbursts of emotions on the court and am a fan of a lot of the US women like Pegula, Fair etc who never act like this

Instead of being intellectually lazy and/or dishonest, cluster posting worthless drivel, understand the actual point of this post and try to disagree respectfully instead of attacking me as a person.

Noone cares that Shelton is pumping himself up but the manner in which he does it and the timing of it is just irritating as hell . You would never see Mac, with all his temper tantrums yell like a madman , fist pumping at 40:15 when leading 2 sets and a break already.

Hope you got it now
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Shelton’s antics may be unseemly to anyone who’s never been to a U.S. College Tennis match. He acts like he did on court at Florida. The chest beating, the screaming out…all commonplace in College Tennis matches
 
Rattler said:
Shelton’s antics may be unseemly to anyone who’s never been to a U.S. College Tennis match. He acts like he did on court at Florida. The chest beating, the screaming out…all commonplace in College Tennis matches
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Cam Norrie played at TCU.
Emma Navarro Virginia. If we’re using the “college” tennis behavior, he’s had over two years to grow out of it.

I’m not against Shelton. I’m kinda neutral but has shown some maturity over the last year or so.

His ego comes off a bit cocky and toes a bit over the line of being cocky over confident.
But then I see the tennis mentor video with him and he seems like a pretty personable guy.

He’s 22 ? Still a young kid.
I don’t favor the chest thumping celebrations after a few points and maybe he grows out of that as he gets older? Idk.
But whatever works for him to win matches is what he’ll do despite what TW forum recreational players think.
 
ChrisJR3264 said:
Cam Norrie played at TCU.
Emma Navarro Virginia. If we’re using the “college” tennis behavior, he’s had over two years to grow out of it.

I’m not against Shelton. I’m kinda neutral but has shown some maturity over the last year or so.

His ego comes off a bit cocky and toes a bit over the line of being cocky over confident.
But then I see the tennis mentor video with him and he seems like a pretty personable guy.

He’s 22 ? Still a young kid.
I don’t favor the chest thumping celebrations after a few points and maybe he grows out of that as he gets older? Idk.
But whatever works for him to win matches is what he’ll do despite what TW forum recreational players think.
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Results are more important than other things.
For entertainment purpouse Monfils had held fort and even mansoor barahmi comes time to time for public laugh.
If he is winning everything is good and if he lose everything is bad.
 
leodevlin said:
You should be ashamed for accusing me of anti Americanism trying to score some cheap points.

I have gone out of my way starting posts praising American players like Tommy Paul bring very likeable and classy.

I also was a fan of Mac and Connors who had outbursts of emotions on the court and am a fan of a lot of the US women like Pegula, Fair etc who never act like this

Instead of being intellectually lazy and/or dishonest, cluster posting worthless drivel, understand the actual point of this post and try to disagree respectfully instead of attacking me as a person.

Noone cares that Shelton is pumping himself up but the manner in which he does it and the timing of it is just irritating as hell . You would never see Mac, with all his temper tantrums yell like a madman , fist pumping at 40:15 when leading 2 sets and a break already.

Hope you got it now
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Lol youre the only one whining and crying in a corner about trivial stuff. Guess what, alcaraz is also fist pumping and yelling sometimes when 40-15 up. I dont see you crying about that. Just admit that you dont like Shelton and youre using his perfectly justified behavior as an excuse to dislike him even more. I had this phase with Federer kiddo. Pls grow up and accept your mistake. I know you wont but maybe do it privately.
Also, look around. Literally not one person agreed with you here. Guess who's wrong here... Learn to take a hint and just move on
 
Apun94 said:
Lol youre the only one whining and crying in a corner about trivial stuff. Guess what, alcaraz is also fist pumping and yelling sometimes when 40-15 up. I dont see you crying about that. Just admit that you dont like Shelton and youre using his perfectly justified behavior as an excuse to dislike him even more. I had this phase with Federer kiddo. Pls grow up and accept your mistake. I know you wont but maybe do it privately.
Also, look around. Literally not one person agreed with you here. Guess who's wrong here... Learn to take a hint and just move on
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it’s funny because sinner is the most obvious culprit. the bloke will do this when he’s 15-0 up on his own serve.
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but no, he thinks sinner is “classy”, when in fact he’s far less classy than Ben.
 
AndrewUtz said:
it’s funny because sinner is the most obvious culprit. the bloke will do this when he’s 15-0 up on his own serve.
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but no, he thinks sinner is “classy”, when in fact he’s far less classy than Ben.
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EVERY player does these things. It is NOT disrespectful. Sure Shelton is louder than others but he isnt disrespectful and he seems like a likeable guy on tour by his peers. OP has absolutely no basis for his hate on the guy. Just a troll thread tbh
 
yep. watching alcaraz vs rublev now and alcaraz fist pumped at 15 all on his own service game, said vamos at 40-30, and again fist pumped when he won the game.
 
ChrisJR3264 said:
Cam Norrie played at TCU.
Emma Navarro Virginia. If we’re using the “college” tennis behavior, he’s had over two years to grow out of it.

I’m not against Shelton. I’m kinda neutral but has shown some maturity over the last year or so.

His ego comes off a bit cocky and toes a bit over the line of being cocky over confident.
But then I see the tennis mentor video with him and he seems like a pretty personable guy.

He’s 22 ? Still a young kid.
I don’t favor the chest thumping celebrations after a few points and maybe he grows out of that as he gets older? Idk.
But whatever works for him to win matches is what he’ll do despite what TW forum recreational players think.
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Most do grow out of it, or they’re socialized out of it at the Futures and Challenger levels.

PS don’t forget they Collins was also a college player as well. Along with Giron & McDonald.
 
leodevlin said:
He has given up the "phone hang up" cringe but after two years he is as insufferable as ever.

In today's game where he was clearly dominating Fuchsovic, he still is chest beating , putting his hand to his ear for an average lob , shouting like a madman after match point like it was the most competitive match of his career.

Looked like he was exaggerating these immature gestures even more due to his girlfriend watching .

On top of all that , he rudely and abrasively ends the court side interview when it was clear that the interviewer wasn't done yet

Can't wait until one the more classier European players kicks his ass, his grotesque jock behaviour make it really hard to root for him.
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bullfan said:
Disagree.... I find Shelton to be joyous and enjoyable....
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Please you two get together and reach a joint declaration. Let me know as soon as you do.
 
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