Shelton will beat Sinner

Fabrivitx said:
Shelton is ready to beat Sinner, he is rested and in perfect physical condition and super inspired with consistent and amazing shots as demonstrated yesterday, his backhand has improved a lot and his tolerance in rallies is now at the level of the best + his return of serve is constantly improving, he has the nastiness and hunger needed to beat the satanic duo Sinner Alcaraz and he will be the first to win a slam not called Sinneraz, he has the weapons, the physique courage the nastiness needed, the boy is coming, pro debut after Ncaa at 20 yrs old only in June 2022, so his definitive maturation on the tour comes late.
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:-D:giggle::laughing:
 
Winners or Errors said:
It’s not Fed’s fault that no one coaching now knows how to teach the one hander.
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it's not about teaching the one hand – it's the fact that a 100 is straight away a huge disadvantage on return and mostly a disadvantage playing defense other than slice.

The real problem with trying to play like Federer is that the basis of his game is being able to stand right on the baseline and take the ball incredibly early on both wings and a serve. That wasn't the most powerful but was unreadable on the toss and the placement was as good as anyone has ever done it is impossible to teach these two things so despite if someone has a one hand or not, you cannot play like Federer – it's impossible.
 
ghostofMecir said:
it's not about teaching the one hand – it's the fact that a 100 is straight away a huge disadvantage on return and mostly a disadvantage playing defense other than slice.

The real problem with trying to play like Federer is that the basis of his game is being able to stand right on the baseline and take the ball incredibly early on both wings and a serve. That wasn't the most powerful but was unreadable on the toss and the placement was as good as anyone has ever done it is impossible to teach these two things so despite if someone has a one hand or not, you cannot play like Federer – it's impossible.
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I don't believe that the OHBH could only work for a player like Fed... YOMV, obviously. Only the future will tell.
 
Shelton's serve is great; it's truly a weapon. It's just not a Sampras or Fed or any other truly elite server level weapon. There may be phases within matches when it is, but not as consistently as the truly elite servers.
 
bluetrain4 said:
Shelton's serve is great; it's truly a weapon. It's just not a Sampras or Fed or any other truly elite server level weapon. There may be phases within matches when it is, but not as consistently as the truly elite servers.
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With todays big balls and slow courts, its kind of hard to serve like Sampras.
 
ghostofMecir said:
The real problem with trying to play like Federer is that the basis of his game is being able to stand right on the baseline and take the ball incredibly early on both wings and a serve. That wasn't the most powerful but was unreadable on the toss and the placement was as good as anyone has ever done it is impossible to teach these two things so despite if someone has a one hand or not, you cannot play like Federer – it's impossible.
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The T-R-U-T-H.
u cannot teach exceptional natural flair and talent.
 
langley said:
I believe stan still has the most difficult rated slam run of all time. and his other i think are in the top 5 as well. stanimal was something else.
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AO14 or RG15? I made a poll about it once, think they came out close, with a slight edge to FO15. If you believe TTW to own the truth lol :D
 
4UTRMoutet said:
Regardless the one hander is being increasingly exposed as the inferior backhand. Only 1h legends like Fed, Thiem, and Wawrinka could make it work.
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"Only?" Laver, Sampras, Becker, Lendl and so many other male players had absolutely phenomenal 1hbh, which was the more precise, tactical stroke, as opposed to the two-hander.
 
Winners or Errors said:
I don't believe that the OHBH could only work for a player like Fed... YOMV, obviously. Only the future will tell.
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There’s just too great of a disadvantage on return with a one-hander to make it viable in today’s game. The advantages of having it don’t really exist in the modern power baseline game. Federer being as successful as he was in the power baseline era will be looked at as a once in a lifetime thing.

When looking at the statistics, i.e., domiance ratio, break%+hold%, % of games won, etc., it’s a complete outlier what Federer did with an outdated stroke AND outdated technology AGAINST the greatest players ever; it’s testament to his once in a lifetime talent that he was able to do so. It would be akin to winning NBA titles without shooting many threes and playing a post up offense.

2000 to present: Games won% in a season with a one-handed BH—career highest number for each player except Federer

Federer, 61.8%, 2004
Federer, 61.7%, 2006
Federer, 60.9%, 2005
Federer, 60.0%, 2015
Federer, 59.6%, 2007
Federer, 59.3%, 2011
Federer, 59.2%, 2017
Federer, 59.2%, 2003
Federer, 58.8%, 2010
Federer, 58.8%, 2014
Federer, 58.8%, 2019
Federer, 58.6%, 2012
Federer, 58.6%, 2008
Federer, 58.3%, 2009
Federer, 57.7%, 2018
Henman, 57.3%, 2001
Tsitsipas, 56.9%, 2021
Federer, 56.6%, 2013
Guga, 56.4%, 2001
Haas, 56.2%, 2001
Dimitrov, 55.7%, 2017
Gasquet, 55.7% 2005
Gasquet, 55.7% 2012
Ljubicic, 55.6%, 2006
Stan, 55.2%, 2016
Thiem, 55.1%, 2018
Gaudio, 55.1%, 2005
Youznhy, 55.1%, 2007
Gonzo, 54.6%, 2009
Blake, 54.5%, 2007
Philipoussis, 53.9%, 2001
Shapovalov, 52.8%, 2021
Mussetti, 52.1%, 2023

1991 to present: Games won% with a one-handed BH—career highest number for each player except Federer and Sampras

Federer, 61.8%, 2004
Federer, 61.7%, 2006
Federer, 60.9%, 2005
Federer, 60.0%, 2015
Sampras, 59.7%, 1997
Federer, 59.6%, 2007
Federer, 59.3%, 2011
Sampras, 59.3%, 1994
Federer, 59.2%, 2017
Federer, 59.2%, 2003
Edberg, 59.2%, 1991
Federer, 58.8%, 2010
Federer, 58.8%, 2014
Federer, 58.8%, 2019
Sampras, 58.8%, 1993
Federer, 58.6%, 2012
Federer, 58.6%, 2008
Federer, 58.3%, 2009
Muster, 58.0%, 1995
Federer, 57.7%, 2018
Sampras, 57.7%, 1995
Henman, 57.3%, 2001
Sampras, 57.0%, 1998
Tsitsipas, 56.9%, 2021
Federer, 56.6%, 2013
Sampras, 56.6%, 1996
Sampras, 56.5%, 1991
Sampras, 56.5%, 1992
Guga, 56.4%, 2001 and Corretja, 1994
Rafter, 56.3%, 1998
Haas, 56.2%, 2001
Becker, 56.0%, 1996
Krajicek, 55.8% 1996
Dimitrov, 55.7%, 2017, Gasquet, 2005 and 2012, and Stich, 1991
Ljubicic, 55.6%, 2006
Stan, 55.2%, 2016
Pioline, 55.1%, 1996, and Thiem, 2018 and Gaudio, 2005
Albert Costa, 54.9%, 1997, and Youznhy, 2007
Korda, 54.8%, 1993
Gonzo, 54.6%, 2009
Blake, 54.5%, 2007
Philipoussis, 53.9%, 2001
Shapovalov, 52.1% 2023
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The players who have won the highest % of points on return all have two-handers

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...on-tour-—-winning-44-of-return-points.784003/
 
THUNDERVOLLEY said:
"Only?" Laver, Sampras, Becker, Lendl and so many other male players had absolutely phenomenal 1hbh, which was the more precise, tactical stroke, as opposed to the two-hander.
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They played in a different era that did not require the BH to hold up in longer power rallies from the baseline. It’s not a coincidence that none of the the best returners/return seasons from 2000-2025 feature players with one-handed BHs. Additonally, they also played in an era in which a BH chip return against a serve/volley player could be effective, which is not the case today.
 
THUNDERVOLLEY said:
"Only?" Laver, Sampras, Becker, Lendl and so many other male players had absolutely phenomenal 1hbh, which was the more precise, tactical stroke, as opposed to the two-hander.
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Their backhands were strong but 1hbh ruled that era. Thiem Wawrinka and Fed made it work in an era of baseliners and where 2hbh dominated. Especially Wawrinka and Thiem who could handle Nadal's forehand.
 
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