Shoes for high arch and wide feet

[irjambi]

Hi all,

new to the forum, very happy to be here.
I've worn different iterations of the Nike Vapor for the last 20 odd years. So I was keen to keep going with them but none of the current models really fit: the Vapor NXT and Pro didn't fit well, I play-tested the GP Turbo but it's too narrow and my feet went numb. I was wondering if you guys have any recommendations, independent of the brand, for wider feet with a high arch. The model I wore last was the Nike Air Zoom Vapor X HC which I loved but I can't find another pair any more in size 10 :/. I'm currently eyeing the Adidas Solecourt Primeblue after people recommended the Solecourt Boost (which is discontinued). Any thoughts on that?

Thanks for the advice.
Markus

 

[FloridaAG]

Diadora Blushield 5. Perfect for my wide high arched feet
People rave about the Adidas but they dod not fit me. Pinching in the forefoot because of my arches. Width was fine

 

[tarkowski]

Hi all,

new to the forum, very happy to be here.
I've worn different iterations of the Nike Vapor for the last 20 odd years. So I was keen to keep going with them but none of the current models really fit: the Vapor NXT and Pro didn't fit well, I play-tested the GP Turbo but it's too narrow and my feet went numb. I was wondering if you guys have any recommendations, independent of the brand, for wider feet with a high arch. The model I wore last was the Nike Air Zoom Vapor X HC which I loved but I can't find another pair any more in size 10 :/. I'm currently eyeing the Adidas Solecourt Primeblue after people recommended the Solecourt Boost (which is discontinued). Any thoughts on that?

Thanks for the advice.
Markus

Hi irjambi, like you, I've played the Vapor 9, 9.5, and X and have high arches and wide feet. Also, like you, I didn't like the Vapor Pro. The smallish tongue, unsubstantial heel counter, and heel-lift (never had that in a vapor) were enough to pass on it. I have to smile a little because I thought the best Vapor was the 9, and things got slightly worse with each iteration making the Pro a pass for me.

In the current lineup of Nike, the Vapor Cage 4 actually fits me best and is a very comfortable shoe, especially for a wide foot. It's a bit more bulked up and rides a little higher than a Vapor, but has better cushioning as a result. The lacing system is the biggest con of the shoe (for me), but the shoe is well built enough that it still feels stable without being able to cinch the laces as much as I'd like.

I've since turned to Asics and really like both the Court FF2 and Solution Speed FF2, with the Court FF2 the most comfortable for a wide foot. I liked both of these quite a bit more than the Gel Res 8 from a fit-perspective.

 

[dkmura]

I'd consider the GR8 in the wide version.

 

[FloridaAG]

GR8 not good for high arches in my opinion

 

[irjambi]

Hi irjambi, like you, I've played the Vapor 9, 9.5, and X and have high arches and wide feet. Also, like you, I didn't like the Vapor Pro. The smallish tongue, unsubstantial heel counter, and heel-lift (never had that in a vapor) were enough to pass on it. I have to smile a little because I thought the best Vapor was the 9, and things got slightly worse with each iteration making the Pro a pass for me.

In the current lineup of Nike, the Vapor Cage 4 actually fits me best and is a very comfortable shoe, especially for a wide foot. It's a bit more bulked up and rides a little higher than a Vapor, but has better cushioning as a result. The lacing system is the biggest con of the shoe (for me), but the shoe is well built enough that it still feels stable without being able to cinch the laces as much as I'd like.

I've since turned to Asics and really like both the Court FF2 and Solution Speed FF2, with the Court FF2 the most comfortable for a wide foot. I liked both of these quite a bit more than the Gel Res 8 from a fit-perspective.

Thanks! This is really helpful. I will probably playtest the Court FF2 and the Adidas SoleCourt PrimeBlue and decide afterwards. I have had Asics running shoes for years but never had them on my radar for tennis as I'm generally after a more direct response.

 

[tarkowski]

Thanks! This is really helpful. I will probably playtest the Court FF2 and the Adidas SoleCourt PrimeBlue and decide afterwards. I have had Asics running shoes for years but never had them on my radar for tennis as I'm generally after a more direct response.

Sounds good, let us know how it goes!

In addition to the fit, I find the Asics FF (Flyte Foam) much more direct and responsive than their Gel and that's my preference as well. It's just faster and more responsive feeling.
The gel is softer and less direct and some will prefer that, but I feel like I'm working harder to move around the court in them.

 

[SystemicAnomaly]

Have had good luck with Nike, New Balance and Prince for width. I do not have a particularly high arch tho.

I look for shoes with good comfort & heel support but Never look to the insoles to provide arch support. You should consider (orthotic) insoles for providing the proper amount of arch support for your foot. I prefer 3/4 insoles (Dr Scholl's CustomFit) that I can lay right on top of the existing insoles.

Usually, if you buy a full-length insole, you have to take out the existing insole and cut the new one to fit your shoe. Don't need to do that with a 3/4 insole.

 

[innoVAShaun]

Find any shoe with a "Wide" version, buy both your regular size and half size up, and get some orthotic insoles.

I now buy two pairs of shoes each time: two sizes. Try my insoles in them, then return what doesn't fit.

It's a very long process. Good luck.

 

[irjambi]

Hi all,

just want to give an update: I went with the Adidas Solecourt PrimeBlue and played my first two matches over the weekend. They felt really good, plenty of space but not too loose. Thanks everyone for your comments and advice.
I wanted to try the Asics Court FF Novak Tokyo as well but they only had it one size up, however with the mostly sown in tongue (similar to the Nike Vapour Pro) I already struggled to get into them so I think it would have been a fight every time.

Thanks again for all your advice, problem solved for another 8-10 months hehe.

Cheers

 

[onehandbh]

I bought a pair of the Adidas CourtJam Bounce b/c they were available near me.
Soft cushioning and wide toe box, but does not enough support for high arches and the shoe in general does not feel stable and firm enough for me.

I used to like the Prince T22 but the last time I bought a pair they were more narrow than before. I think they changed factories or to another country.

 

[FIRETennis]

I have a wide foot with medium-high arch and the best shoe so far has been the Asics Gel Resolution 8. Fits perfect true to size out the box. If you still find there is not enough arch support, use custom insole.

 

[dave t]

Most stock insoles have just about zero arch support and obviously the soles of the shoes are pretty flat under there. If you really have high arches, you need some orthotics.

 

[FloridaAG]

I have a wide foot with medium-high arch and the best shoe so far has been the Asics Gel Resolution 8. Fits perfect true to size out the box. If you still find there is not enough arch support, use custom insole.

Did not fit my fairly wide high arched feet well at all. Horrible heel slippage and pain under forefoot for me. Perhaps the wide would fit as others have found - but the regular shoe failed for my fairly wide high arched feet and was a 1/2 size long.

 

[LOBALOT]

Boy I must have elephant feet. I am an 8 1/2 2E and I can't get even get the front of my foot into a Gel Res 8 or Adidas tennis shoe. The only shoe I can fit into are New Balance. I do my best to find the "Non-old man" looking ones with some color/style to them. Some have less cushioning than others. Some have less durability than others but at least I can get my foot into them and they fit well.

 

[FIRETennis]

Did not fit my fairly wide high arched feet well at all. Horrible heel slippage and pain under forefoot for me. Perhaps the wide would fit as others have found - but the regular shoe failed for my fairly wide high arched feet and was a 1/2 size long.

Did you ever try the Gel Resolution 7s? Those were more narrow so you probably wouldn't even be able to fit in them.
OP definitely needs to try on before deciding.
For example the Speed FF2s were good initially but after some intense matches, they looked like sausages about to burst on my feet. Very strange fit but comfortable. I don't use the FF2s anymore and just rotate some GR8s.
K-Swiss fit well, but durability is beyond laughable and I cannot support a company with such horrendous customer service.
Adidas were ok but the new lineup of all fabric tops and €140+ price marks is a joke.
Nike Vapor X seem to have been discontinued, the width was ok but the length was maybe 1/2 size too long as Nike usually is for me.

 

[FloridaAG]

Did you ever try the Gel Resolution 7s? Those were more narrow so you probably wouldn't even be able to fit in them.
OP definitely needs to try on before deciding.
For example the Speed FF2s were good initially but after some intense matches, they looked like sausages about to burst on my feet. Very strange fit but comfortable. I don't use the FF2s anymore and just rotate some GR8s.
K-Swiss fit well, but durability is beyond laughable and I cannot support a company with such horrendous customer service.
Adidas were ok but the new lineup of all fabric tops and €140+ price marks is a joke.
Nike Vapor X seem to have been discontinued, the width was ok but the length was maybe 1/2 size too long as Nike usually is for me.

Did not - when they were out I think I was in the original Court FF's which were awesome

 

[pete101]

Find any shoe with a "Wide" version, buy both your regular size and half size up, and get some orthotic insoles.

I now buy two pairs of shoes each time: two sizes. Try my insoles in them, then return what doesn't fit.

It's a very long process. Good luck.

Do you not find if you go half size up the width is good but the length too long so it flaps about when you move at the front?

I guess it happens more in leather type shoes than fabric mesh sock fit ones like the x so can get away with it being slightly longer

 

[LOBALOT]

Do you not find if you go half size up the width is good but the length too long so it flaps about when you move at the front?

I guess it happens more in leather type shoes than fabric mesh sock fit ones like the x so can get away with it being slightly longer

I agree I would and on top of that the added weight. Plus, I could see sliding forward inside the shoe. For tennis I think you want to be able to get your foot in the shoe and then have it be well fitting all the way around your foot including length.

 

[pete101]

I agree I would and on top of that the added weight. Plus, I could see sliding forward inside the shoe. For tennis I think you want to be able to get your foot in the shoe and then have it be well fitting all the way around your foot including length.

Yeah i made that mistake years ago when i got some air max smash ones in 2008 the mens version of the serena shoe.. i got a 9.5 and there was no 9 available but an 8.5

When i played it kept flapping about luckily managed to get the store to let me swap it for the 8.5 they had and it turned out actually that was the size i indeed needed not the 9

But now looking for vapor x wides seems impossible i see second hand x's for sale but i think may not be wide enough for me

I have never tried on an x before except a carpet one which was size 12 just to see and that width obviously was plush and wide lol

 

[LOBALOT]

Yeah i made that mistake years ago when i got some air max smash ones in 2008 the mens version of the serena shoe.. i got a 9.5 and there was no 9 available but an 8.5

When i played it kept flapping about luckily managed to get the store to let me swap it for the 8.5 they had and it turned out actually that was the size i indeed needed not the 9

But now looking for vapor x wides seems impossible i see second hand x's for sale but i think may not be wide enough for me

I have never tried on an x before except a carpet one which was size 12 just to see and that width obviously was plush and wide lol

Try some other brands in wide. You can't do much about a wide foot so trying to force yourself into a manufacturer that doesn't make one doesn't make sense to me.

 

[pete101]

Find any shoe with a "Wide" version, buy both your regular size and half size up, and get some orthotic insoles.

I now buy two pairs of shoes each time: two sizes. Try my insoles in them, then return what doesn't fit.

It's a very long process. Good luck.

I have found some size 9 vapor x's and i know they are supposed to be slightly wider than the 9.5's

As like you i have wide feet did going up half a size help if a wide x isnt available?

I dont particularly want to buy a 2nd hand shoe without being able to try it on.

Did you try the vapor pro wide by any chance for comparative fit?

The 8.5 width in the vapor pro wide was slightly too narrow but manageable

Compared to a vapor x but half size up did it seem similar or ok?

 

[innoVAShaun]

I have found some size 9 vapor x's and i know they are supposed to be slightly wider than the 9.5's

As like you i have wide feet did going up half a size help if a wide x isnt available?

I dont particularly want to buy a 2nd hand shoe without being able to try it on.

Did you try the vapor pro wide by any chance for comparative fit?

The 8.5 width in the vapor pro wide was slightly too narrow but manageable

Compared to a vapor x but half size up did it seem similar or ok?

Going up a half size only helped me if my orthotics don't have too much room to slip around. When I hear a shoe runs small, I usually go for the half size up and check if it can accommodate my orthotics.

I have never tried the Vapor Pro Wide. They are not available in the US. By the time I found a military friend willing to buy them and ship them to me via USPS, they were out of my size. I ended up buying the new Asics Gel Resolution 9 Wides for a price too good to refuse.

Here's my initial take on the GR9Ws:

Asics Gel Resolution 9

I'm presuming that it's an air-channel which is designed to increase the air flow under foot, which would improve the sliding capabilities of the shoe. Maybe they received complaints that the shoe was sticking too much, or that clay was getting stuck too much on the shoe, and this will help it...

tt.tennis-warehouse.com

 

[pete101]

Going up a half size only helped me if my orthotics don't have too much room to slip around. When I hear a shoe runs small, I usually go for the half size up and check if it can accommodate my orthotics.

I have never tried the Vapor Pro Wide. They are not available in the US. By the time I found a military friend willing to buy them and ship them to me via USPS, they were out of my size. I ended up buying the new Asics Gel Resolution 9 Wides for a price too good to refuse.

Here's my initial take on the GR9Ws:

Asics Gel Resolution 9

I'm presuming that it's an air-channel which is designed to increase the air flow under foot, which would improve the sliding capabilities of the shoe. Maybe they received complaints that the shoe was sticking too much, or that clay was getting stuck too much on the shoe, and this will help it...

tt.tennis-warehouse.com

I cant get gel resolutions wide in the uk it is ridiculous

 

[toby55555]

Don't know about high arches but the widest shoes are the K Swiss Big Shot Light leather.

 

[pete101]

Going up a half size only helped me if my orthotics don't have too much room to slip around. When I hear a shoe runs small, I usually go for the half size up and check if it can accommodate my orthotics.

I have never tried the Vapor Pro Wide. They are not available in the US. By the time I found a military friend willing to buy them and ship them to me via USPS, they were out of my size. I ended up buying the new Asics Gel Resolution 9 Wides for a price too good to refuse.

Here's my initial take on the GR9Ws:

Asics Gel Resolution 9

I'm presuming that it's an air-channel which is designed to increase the air flow under foot, which would improve the sliding capabilities of the shoe. Maybe they received complaints that the shoe was sticking too much, or that clay was getting stuck too much on the shoe, and this will help it...

tt.tennis-warehouse.com

But how does a vapor x wide compare vs vapor x half size up width wise?

 

[pete101]

Going up a half size only helped me if my orthotics don't have too much room to slip around. When I hear a shoe runs small, I usually go for the half size up and check if it can accommodate my orthotics.

I have never tried the Vapor Pro Wide. They are not available in the US. By the time I found a military friend willing to buy them and ship them to me via USPS, they were out of my size. I ended up buying the new Asics Gel Resolution 9 Wides for a price too good to refuse.

Here's my initial take on the GR9Ws:

Asics Gel Resolution 9

I'm presuming that it's an air-channel which is designed to increase the air flow under foot, which would improve the sliding capabilities of the shoe. Maybe they received complaints that the shoe was sticking too much, or that clay was getting stuck too much on the shoe, and this will help it...

tt.tennis-warehouse.com

Would you say if i need a 8.5 vapor x wide would a size 9 vapor x have similar width all beit isnt a wide also?

 

[innoVAShaun]

Would you say if i need a 8.5 vapor x wide would a size 9 vapor x have similar width all beit isnt a wide also?

No, I would not. I've had both the Vapor X Wide and Vapor X (standard) in the same size (8.5). If you go up a half size, the length is very noticeable. Especially, if you wear orthotics like me. My insole would slide back and forth unless I use double-sided tape underneath and lace very tightly.

A narrow shoe is a narrow shoe regardless. This past weekend, I found some Vapor React NXT in size 9 that I tried on. My feet could barely breathe. They were so narrow.

 

[LOBALOT]

Don't know about high arches but the widest shoes are the K Swiss Big Shot Light leather.

The widest shoes are New Balance 4E. I think their 2Es are even wider than the K Swiss as I can't even get my foot in the K Swiss.

I have wide foot/tall arches and am wearing various colors of the Wilson Rush Pro Ace 2E. They aren't bad from a comfort perspective although they are starting to lose their cushioning and wear out after 6 months of play 4-5 times a week.

 

[toby55555]

Must be a New Balance we don’t get in UK. I used to use their cheap x-trainers in 6E but too heavy, the Big Court leather is just as snug for me.
Wide shoe shop in Harrow told me NB are to release a proper tennis shoe in 6E this year.

 

[pete101]

No, I would not. I've had both the Vapor X Wide and Vapor X (standard) in the same size (8.5). If you go up a half size, the length is very noticeable. Especially, if you wear orthotics like me. My insole would slide back and forth unless I use double-sided tape underneath and lace very tightly.

A narrow shoe is a narrow shoe regardless. This past weekend, I found some Vapor React NXT in size 9 that I tried on. My feet could barely breathe. They were so narrow.

Yeah i feared the length would be too long but how much extra width did you get going half up on a regular x vs the 8.5 wide?

 

[LOBALOT]

Must be a New Balance we don’t get in UK. I used to use their cheap x-trainers in 6E but too heavy, the Big Court leather is just as snug for me.
Wide shoe shop in Harrow told me NB are to release a proper tennis shoe in 6E this year.

Perhaps. Here they are on TW:

New Balance MC 1006 4E Wh/Navy Men's Shoes | Tennis Warehouse

www.tennis-warehouse.com

New Balance MC 806 W 4E Men's Shoes | Tennis Warehouse

www.tennis-warehouse.com

 

[LOBALOT]

Yeah i feared the length would be too long but how much extra width did you get going half up on a regular x vs the 8.5 wide?

I hate this idea. If a shoe doesn't fit it doesn't fit. Going up 1/2 a size simply means you are wearing a shoe that is too big for you playing a sport that is demanding of footwork.

 

[pete101]

I hate this idea. If a shoe doesn't fit it doesn't fit. Going up 1/2 a size simply means you are wearing a shoe that is too big for you playing a sport that is demanding of footwork.

Blame stupid nike changing the shape of the vapor range so now they are long and narrow clown shoes

 

[pete101]

Must be a New Balance we don’t get in UK. I used to use their cheap x-trainers in 6E but too heavy, the Big Court leather is just as snug for me.
Wide shoe shop in Harrow told me NB are to release a proper tennis shoe in 6E this year.

What's the name of the wide shoe shop in harrow?

Fortunately im only a 2E to 4E.

Which new balance shoe has the most durable sole in a wide fit? 2E ideally.

Sucks for you with 6E

 

[LOBALOT]

Blame stupid nike changing the shape of the vapor range so now they are long and narrow clown shoes

Yes, I would love to be able to wear some of the more stylish shoes out there but unfortunately none are wide enough except for:

1. New Blance 2E
2. Wilson Rush Pro Ace 2E
3. Asics Gel Res 8 2E (Probably 9s as well)

No Nike or Addidas.

 

[pete101]

Must be a New Balance we don’t get in UK. I used to use their cheap x-trainers in 6E but too heavy, the Big Court leather is just as snug for me.
Wide shoe shop in Harrow told me NB are to release a proper tennis shoe in 6E this year.

Did you ever try a vapor x wide or the vapor pro wides or still too narrow for you?

 

[pete101]

Yes, I would love to be able to wear some of the more stylish shoes out there but unfortunately none are wide enough except for:

1. New Blance 2E
2. Wilson Rush Pro Ace 2E
3. Asics Gel Res 8 2E (Probably 9s as well)

No Nike or Wilson.

I need to find a vapor x wide in uk 8.5 that is the perfect length and just wide enough

I tried a vapor pro wide but it is just too long even in 8.5. Maybe it would have been ok i don't know i just sent them back when it was over 1.5 inches too long

 

[LOBALOT]

I need to find a vapor x wide in uk 8.5 that is the perfect length and just wide enough

I tried a vapor pro wide but it is just too long even in 8.5. Maybe it would have been ok i don't know i just sent them back when it was over 1.5 inches too long

I meant no Nike and Adidas above sorry.

 

[innoVAShaun]

…how much extra width did you get going half up on a regular x vs the 8.5 wide?

I’m not sure. I wore Vapor X a long time ago when they first came out. Always had foot pain during and after playing.

Down the road, I was eventually diagnosed with PF and having wide, flat feet. I was then given prescription orthotics, tried them on Vapor X wide, and went through two pairs. Too long ago to compare the two.

 

[toby55555]

What's the name of the wide shoe shop in harrow?

Fortunately im only a 2E to 4E.

Which new balance shoe has the most durable sole in a wide fit? 2E ideally.

Sucks for you with 6E

Wide fit Shoes, Kenton Park Parade, Harrow.

 

[pete101]

Wide fit Shoes, Kenton Park Parade, Harrow.

Thanks

I will give them a visit do they stock tennis shoes from various brands?

 

[pete101]

I agree I would and on top of that the added weight. Plus, I could see sliding forward inside the shoe. For tennis I think you want to be able to get your foot in the shoe and then have it be well fitting all the way around your foot including length.

Someone said here they put cotton wool at the front of the shoe if it is too long maybe that might work for me and the nike vapor pro wide as i dont want my foot sliding forward.

The problem is when you buy one which is comfortable width we forget it will stretch and it is too long it'll then slide forward when the width stretches so logically i should get a pair which is a little snug allowing for break in.

So much stress this is im on my last legs with my tennis shoes constantly regluing them with no alternativr suitable option in the uk the gel resolution wides arent even available here!

Does tennis warehouse europe sell the wide versions of the gel res?

 

[pete101]

I’m not sure. I wore Vapor X a long time ago when they first came out. Always had foot pain during and after playing.

Down the road, I was eventually diagnosed with PF and having wide, flat feet. I was then given prescription orthotics, tried them on Vapor X wide, and went through two pairs. Too long ago to compare the two.

Have you tried the vapor pro wide yet? Im surprised it isnt available for you yet in the US yet in the UK it came out before xmas.

Especially seeing as they treat uk consumers with wide feet with contempt lol
We cant really get it in anything even gel res not available here in wide.

You would think US and canada would get the wide nikes first.

Im hoping the vapor 11 is the same length as the x's but judging what people are saying it is basically exactly like thr vapor pro's. The vapor pro 2's look a little better in my opinion ans less expensive so maybe they'll release wides in them both.

Given how many x's colourways existed in wide im surprised the vapor pro wide only came out in that one white black colourway and now they already moved on to the vapor pro 2.

So the question is will there be some more vapor pro wides coming out as a delayed release or will they just straight to the vapor pro 2 wides

 

[innoVAShaun]

Have you tried the vapor pro wide yet? Im surprised it isnt available for you yet in the US yet in the UK it came out before xmas.

Especially seeing as they treat uk consumers with wide feet with contempt lol
We cant really get it in anything even gel res not available here in wide.

You would think US and canada would get the wide nikes first.

Im hoping the vapor 11 is the same length as the x's but judging what people are saying it is basically exactly like thr vapor pro's. The vapor pro 2's look a little better in my opinion ans less expensive so maybe they'll release wides in them both.

Given how many x's colourways existed in wide im surprised the vapor pro wide only came out in that one white black colourway and now they already moved on to the vapor pro 2.

So the question is will there be some more vapor pro wides coming out as a delayed release or will they just straight to the vapor pro 2 wides

I was never able to get my hands on the Vapor Pro Wide.

 

[LOBALOT]

Someone said here they put cotton wool at the front of the shoe if it is too long maybe that might work for me and the nike vapor pro wide as i dont want my foot sliding forward.

The problem is when you buy one which is comfortable width we forget it will stretch and it is too long it'll then slide forward when the width stretches so logically i should get a pair which is a little snug allowing for break in.

So much stress this is im on my last legs with my tennis shoes constantly regluing them with no alternativr suitable option in the uk the gel resolution wides arent even available here!

Does tennis warehouse europe sell the wide versions of the gel res?

Have you ever run with a shoe that is too big as a kid/maybe your dads shoes?

I can't imagine simply shoving something in the shoe will address the issue that the shoes are too long.

I feel for you. Someone needs to address this with the manufacturers.

I just went to TW-Europe and ran the the shoe search where you can specify a wide width and some models poped up. Have you looked at those?

 

[toby55555]

Thanks

I will give them a visit do they stock tennis shoes from various brands?

No only NB x trainers I think, check their web site

 

[LOBALOT]

No only NB x trainers I think, check their web site

Tennis Warehouse Europe?

Yes, they do

 

[pete101]

Have you ever run with a shoe that is too big as a kid/maybe your dads shoes?

I can't imagine simply shoving something in the shoe will address the issue that the shoes are too long.

I feel for you. Someone needs to address this with the manufacturers.

I just went to TW-Europe and ran the the shoe search where you can specify a wide width and some models poped up. Have you looked at those?

Yeah some of my nike shoes i collect air max 97s are too narrow and long flops about a bit.

Why cant nike just keep the same vapor x silhouette length it is ridiculous

I think there are more people with long narrow feet complaining about the width vs those with wide doing the same so thus the narrow feet crew win now.

 

[pete101]

Have you ever run with a shoe that is too big as a kid/maybe your dads shoes?

I can't imagine simply shoving something in the shoe will address the issue that the shoes are too long.

I feel for you. Someone needs to address this with the manufacturers.

I just went to TW-Europe and ran the the shoe search where you can specify a wide width and some models poped up. Have you looked at those?

Did you see any gel resolutions?