Should Ballkids return to just being Ballkids?

a10best

Hall of Fame
Yes, they should only be ball-kids, not handling towels (possible germ lawsuit waiting), drinks, or taking off the plastic on their rackets
 

tennis24x7

Semi-Pro
Agree. The image of tennis being a pampered, spoiled sissy rich kid sport has NEVER been greater. Holding umbrellas overs a player's head, taking the plastic wrap off a player's raquet, scurrying like rats to a player's side to deliver a towel so they can blow their nose in it. Getting yelled at by some players when their holinesses needs aren't immediately met. Ridiculous!!
I truly feel it is not the players but the GS events trying to one up each other by doing these ridiculous stuff.
 

Enceladus

Hall of Fame
If the pros have to walk anywhere to get a towel then that's their choice but they'd better do it within the 25 seconds allowed between points. If they aren't capable of doing that then they will have to wipe their sweaty face on their shirt or stuff some tissues in their other pocket and wait until the next changeover to give themselves all the towelling off they need. End of.
Wiping face to shirt - I don't like it. I don't see it glad with the players. Wiping face to towel is acceptable for me. For me, let the ballkids wear towel for tennis players than that the tennis players wiping face to shirts.

An acceptable compromise would be hooks at courts, as ATP is currently considering.
 
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Bike Man

New User
I've wondered about this for some time now. Take Nadal, for example. Here's a guy that sticks his hand between his sweaty a55 cheeks before every point, then rubs his b@tt juiced hands all over his face. Then, prior to the next point, he wipes the sweaty b@tt juice from his face all over a towel and tosses the bio-contaminated towel to an 11-year-old. How is this ok?
 
As with almost everything these days, I don't think it's possible. Most if not all matters now are abt being more and PC; more service, more scope, not necessarily more money, but more responsibilities at the end of the day.

Edit: But yes, it'll be a nice change.
 

octobrina10

G.O.A.T.
I've wondered about this for some time now. Take Nadal, for example. Here's a guy that sticks his hand between his sweaty a55 cheeks before every point, then rubs his b@tt juiced hands all over his face. Then, prior to the next point, he wipes the sweaty b@tt juice from his face all over a towel and tosses the bio-contaminated towel to an 11-year-old. How is this ok?
This poster (quoted) can't take his eyes off...
 
When did the role/purpose of Ballkids change?

We have here the 1971 Wimbledon Final. Watch a game break (there's one at 3.30). The players don't even have chairs, they handle their own towels, get their own drinks, generally look after themselves as adults do.


Nowadays the ballkids seem to be expected to act as players' personal servants - fetch drinks, pick up their mess (yes, Fed, I AM looking at you), handle their towels.....

Aren't the ballkids there to help the smooth running of the game? Does it do the image of the game any favours to see ballkids having to act like Roman slaves serving the Emperor?
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Tennease

Legend
I hope ATP will stop towel handling by ball kids.


ATP considering rule change after Verdasco's ballboy rant

The world governing body is studying the possibility of making players take care of their own towel necessities, a move that Rafa Nadal is against.
As.com Update: 3 October 2018 - 13:18 CEST
Video footage of Fernando Verdasco berating a ball boy at the Shenzhen tournament for not producing a towel in a time the Spaniard deemed acceptable did the rounds on the Internet and provoked criticism from Judy Murray and now, it appears, may even prompt a rule change on the part of the ATP.

The governing body for men’s tennis is looking into sparing ball boys and girls the ritual of handing over a sweat-drenched towel at every pause and is studying a proposal to install hooks on court so that players can see to their own perspiration between points.


The use of towels – a habit whose origins have been attributed to Greg Rusedski - has become ubiquitous in tennis and the Verdasco incident has lent further support to the camp in favour of relieving ball girls and boys from the duty of having them hurled in their direction every few seconds throughout a game.

@TennisTV ) pic.twitter.com/cVTHMIDrBR

— doublefault28 (@doublefault28) September 29, 2018
The move has not met with the support of world number one Rafa Nadal, whose famous on-court tics include a thorough mopping between points, even if the Spaniard is among the more polite towel-requesters on the tour. “They [the ATP] want us to be quicker between points and now it looks like we’ll have to go running off court for a towel,” Nadal said of the proposal.
 

3lite

Professional
I hope ATP will stop towel handling by ball kids.


ATP considering rule change after Verdasco's ballboy rant

The world governing body is studying the possibility of making players take care of their own towel necessities, a move that Rafa Nadal is against.

The move has not met with the support of world number one Rafa Nadal, whose famous on-court tics include a thorough mopping between points, even if the Spaniard is among the more polite towel-requesters on the tour. “They [the ATP] want us to be quicker between points and now it looks like we’ll have to go running off court for a towel,” Nadal said of the proposal.
Lmao.

I bet Nadal is that one kid in class who requests to take his exams in a different room from his peers.
 

octobrina10

G.O.A.T.
I hope ATP will stop towel handling by ball kids.


ATP considering rule change after Verdasco's ballboy rant

The world governing body is studying the possibility of making players take care of their own towel necessities, a move that Rafa Nadal is against.
As.com Update: 3 October 2018 - 13:18 CEST
Video footage of Fernando Verdasco berating a ball boy at the Shenzhen tournament for not producing a towel in a time the Spaniard deemed acceptable did the rounds on the Internet and provoked criticism from Judy Murray and now, it appears, may even prompt a rule change on the part of the ATP.

The governing body for men’s tennis is looking into sparing ball boys and girls the ritual of handing over a sweat-drenched towel at every pause and is studying a proposal to install hooks on court so that players can see to their own perspiration between points.


The use of towels – a habit whose origins have been attributed to Greg Rusedski - has become ubiquitous in tennis and the Verdasco incident has lent further support to the camp in favour of relieving ball girls and boys from the duty of having them hurled in their direction every few seconds throughout a game.

@TennisTV ) pic.twitter.com/cVTHMIDrBR

— doublefault28 (@doublefault28) September 29, 2018
The move has not met with the support of world number one Rafa Nadal, whose famous on-court tics include a thorough mopping between points, even if the Spaniard is among the more polite towel-requesters on the tour. “They [the ATP] want us to be quicker between points and now it looks like we’ll have to go running off court for a towel,” Nadal said of the proposal.
No service anymore:


 

octobrina10

G.O.A.T.
Pretty soon he'll be expecting them to perform his pre-serve rituals for him ie. wiping his face and pulling the back of his shorts out of his You-Know-Where! o_O
I didn't know that you have a habit of creating fictional stories about Rafa! :rolleyes:

Look at what Fed (one of your beloved players) has forced ballkids to do:




 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
I didn't know that you have a habit of creating fictional stories about Rafa! :rolleyes:

Look at what Fed (one of your beloved players) has forced ballkids to do:




I'm not having a particular go at Rafa because most players are just as guilty and I certainly haven't spared Fed as you will see from my comments about him chucking water bottles about and brushing things off his chair. They have all got into this habit of treating ballkids as if they are their personal servants and I think it''s gone too far and I'm especially disappointed in Federer because he started out as a ballkid in his beloved Basel so you would think he should know better!
 

octobrina10

G.O.A.T.
I'm not having a particular go at Rafa because most players are just as guilty and I certainly haven't spared Fed as you will see from my comments about him chucking water bottles about and brushing things off his chair. They have all got into this habit of treating ballkids as if they are their personal servants and I think it''s gone too far and I'm especially disappointed in Federer because he started out as a ballkid in his beloved Basel so you would think he should know better!
I pointed out that you posted an imaginary story about Rafa!
 

3lite

Professional
Djokovic, outside of that one time his stroke accidentally sent the ball toward a ballgirl's face, treats the ballkids with the most grace and respect from what I've seen.
 

BTURNER

Legend
So did Suzanne Lenglen prepare and serve her own cognac between games, or was it prepared, chilled and poured for her? LOL, I am not so sure this pampering thing is all that unprecedented.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
So did Suzanne Lenglen prepare and serve her own cognac between games, or was it prepared, chilled and poured for her? LOL, I am not so sure this pampering thing is all that unprecedented.
Lenglen famously carried her own hipflask and swigged from it at changeovers. She didn't need a ballkid to fetch it for her.
 

TenS_Ace

Professional
I miss the days when the ball kids at our exclusive club would hold an ashtray for me to use between points :D Or was that for curling ;)
 

BTURNER

Legend
Lenglen famously carried her own hipflask and swigged from it at changeovers. She didn't need a ballkid to fetch it for her.
I believe you! Your testimony sounds credible and persuasive on its face and thus meets my personal evidentiary burden without a link or other corroborative evidence. Or maybe I am just too damn lazy to google her;)
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
I believe you! Your testimony sounds credible and persuasive on its face and thus meets my personal evidentiary burden without a link or other corroborative evidence. Or maybe I am just too damn lazy to google her;)
At least I think that's what she did from what I remember reading about her. ;)
 

Djokovicfan

Semi-Pro
When did the role/purpose of Ballkids change?

We have here the 1971 Wimbledon Final. Watch a game break (there's one at 3.30). The players don't even have chairs, they handle their own towels, get their own drinks, generally look after themselves as adults do.


Nowadays the ballkids seem to be expected to act as players' personal servants - fetch drinks, pick up their mess (yes, Fed, I AM looking at you), handle their towels.....

Aren't the ballkids there to help the smooth running of the game? Does it do the image of the game any favours to see ballkids having to act like Roman slaves serving the Emperor?
Pro tennis players should be treated like emperors. If you truly grasped how good you have to be and how much effort it takes to be playing on tv in one of the worlds most competitive sports, you wouldnt even consider it weird for ballboys to be giving neck massages to the players in between side changes.
 
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