Should Federer be under pressure?

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Should Fed be under pressure going into Wimbledon?

Either not, because he already took a pressure off himself by winning AO in a season where no one expected much from him and adding anything after that should be considered a bonus.

Or should he be under pressure, when he already skipped entire clay season to prepare for grass, built the expectations and goes into the tornament most probably as the first favourite? Because if he loses early, he would throw away his best chance to ever win Wimby again and regret not playing FO...

Should he or should he be not under pressure? And will he be?
 
StANDAA said:
Should Fed be under pressure going into Wimbledon?

Either not, because he already took a pressure off himself by winning AO in a season where no one expected much from him and adding anything after that should be considered a bonus.
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quick answer: No pressure. Pressure on everyone else
 
Yes, under pressure

Aus would have got him off the hook - what more could you want?

But sunshine double made clear, there's plenty more you could want because there's plenty more he's capable of

Halle reconfirmed it

Under pressure? meaning he's playing well enough that there are high expectations of him?

Yes, and that's both a good thing and as it should be
 
As fans of Federer we're definitely feeling the pressure. Has been a long long time since Djokovic/Murray were this substandard and Federer was a big favorite. Only place you can go from there is down so I'm definitely nervous about Wimbledon. When Djokovic was GOATing you didn't expect titles from Fed, just hoped for the best. As a fan that gave you an eerie calm. Being one of if not the top dog now, it's nerve-racking again. But the nerves are all worth it if he wins.
 
Federer is usually able to play very relaxed. Especially this year where he's realized that he doesn't have to win anything. He's been playing so much more freely like with how he's hitting through the backhand more. He's also just won a tournament so he has a bit more confidence and he's ready to go.


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Of course he's under pressure. He's the favorite going into the biggest tournament in tennis and he specifically skipped the clay to better his chances. He's in a position where if he doesn't win it, most will second-guess his decision to forgo thousands of potential points on the dirt. He put all his eggs in one basket - so yes, he's under more pressure than usual.

Finally, he's almost 36. This is his last realistic chance of winning it, increasing his pressure even more.
 
He's 35 years old for cying out loud. He's not on lock to win anything for the rest of his career. No pressure. He's got nothing more to prove. He can just go out there, swing freely and give it his best.
 
idk about him, but as a fan I'm feeling the pressure. its quite pathetic, but anxiously awaiting the draw tomorrow. also people need to let the french open go. fed was pretty firm about his decision and doesn't regret it and i don't think, even if he doesn't go as far as he or others expect him to at Wimbledon, that he would regret it.
 
Rago said:
He's 35 years old for cying out loud. He's not on lock to win anything for the rest of his career. No pressure. He's got nothing more to prove. He can just go out there, swing freely and give it his best.
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If Federer played like any other 35-year-old tennis pro then sure, that'd be true. But Federer is achieving at or near what he did at his peak and is a current Grand Slam holder. Citing Federer's age is just a ready-made excuse in case Rogie falls short.
 
He is almost 36 FGS. If he wins 2 slams this year, after having won only 1 Slam for almost 7 years, either something is very wrong with the tour, or something is very wrong with Federer. Q/F should be solid result for Octogenarer, tbh.
 
No. I don't think he's under pressure at all although he 's the favorite to win Wimbledon. He's 35 and has already won the AO beating his biggest nemesis to do so which nobody expected. He made a wise decision not playing the FO and he can go out there freely at Wimbledon and give it his best shot. His fans are putting enormous pressure on him and are expecting a lot but I don't think he should feel pressure at all. If he wins it would be an incredible added bonus but if he doesn't, how does it really affect him negatively? He has nothing to lose.
 
cc0509 said:
No. I don't think he's under pressure at all although he 's the favorite to win Wimbledon. He's 35 and has already won the AO beating his biggest nemesis to do so which nobody expected. He made a wise decision not playing the FO and he can go out there freely at Wimbledon and give it his best shot. His fans are putting enormous pressure on him and are expecting a lot but I don't think he should feel pressure at all. If he wins it would be an incredible added bonus but if he doesn't, how does it really affect him negatively? He has nothing to lose.
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his slam record if a certain someone wins instead :(
 
StANDAA said:
Should Fed be under pressure going into Wimbledon?

Either not, because he already took a pressure off himself by winning AO in a season where no one expected much from him and adding anything after that should be considered a bonus.

Or should he be under pressure, when he already skipped entire clay season to prepare for grass, built the expectations and goes into the tornament most probably as the first favourite? Because if he loses early, he would throw away his best chance to ever win Wimby again and regret not playing FO...

Should he or should he be not under pressure? And will he be?
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He kind of put himself under pressure by taking off the clay season, and also by winning the AO and reaffirming GOATness. Now people expect more again :)
 
cc0509 said:
LOL. You have Nadal on the brain 24-7 it seems. You need to relax. Tennis is just a game.
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yeah...i go to bed thinking about nadal, and wake up thinking about nadal...rme. i dont know where any of my comments gave you an indication that i thought tennis=my life or that its more than a game but w/e. what an obnoxious comment IMO
 
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No pressure whatsoever. Winning AO takes the he pressure off him and he can go into the W swinging freely and enjoying the sport. He loves the game and just playing at a high level is good enough for him. Taking the clay court season off does not increase pressure, it just gave him the rest he needed after killing the hc season like he did. Roger and Rafa in the finals is going to be great.
 
icedevil0289 said:
yeah...i go to bed thinking about nadal, and wake up thinking about nadal...rme. i dont know where any of my comments gave you an indication that i thought tennis=my life or that its more than a game but w/e. what an obnoxious comment IMO
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You responded to my original post in this thread asking how does it affect Federer negatively if he loses at Wimbledon by saying "his slam record if a certain someone wins instead" but you don't have Nadal on the brain? Come on. At least have the guts to admit it. You've posted many posts in the past few weeks indicating that a Fedal final makes you nervous which is fine because I can relate to your feelings.

I think sometimes some of Federer's fans worry more about the slam record and Nadal than Federer does.
 
cc0509 said:
You responded to my original post in this thread asking how does it affect Federer negatively if he loses at Wimbledon by saying "his slam record if a certain someone wins instead" but you don't have Nadal on the brain? Come on. At least have the guts to admit it. You've posted many posts in the past few weeks indicating that a Fedal final makes you nervous which is fine because I can relate to your feelings.

I think sometimes some of Federer's fans worry more about the slam record and Nadal than Federer does.
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yeah this is going around in circles....no the fed fans who are obsessed with the nadal are the ones making polls on what option they would most enjoy that includes nadal.... so nope.

well no **** a fedal final would make me nervous, how that is having nadal on the brain beyond me. if you want to argue that i have fed on the brain 24/7 and am nervous about his chances and as a byproduct, think about nadal as one of his obstacles...then sure I suppose i have nadal on the brain. not like we know each, thankfully, but trust me i dont often think of other players outside of their relation to my favorite.
 
icedevil0289 said:
yeah this is going around in circles....no the fed fans who are obsessed with the nadal are the ones making polls on what option they would most enjoy that includes nadal.... so nope.

well no **** a fedal final would make me nervous, how that is having nadal on the brain beyond me. if you want to argue that i have fed on the brain 24/7 and am nervous about his chances and as a byproduct, think about nadal as one of his obstacles...then sure I suppose i have nadal on the brain. not like we know each, thankfully, but trust me i dont often think of other players outside of their relation to my favorite.
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Ok, let's just drop it and see the draw and see how it all plays out. I am a Federer fan who would like to see a Fedal final and would prefer it if Federer could get that win. But there's a long way to go for that to happen. The draw should be interesting.
 
Yes, this will be the greatest expectation to win since 2008. He is currently vastly superior to his opposition. On current top 16 form, there are realistically no one near his level. On top of that missing FO to focus on Wimbledon can only make the pressure higher. He's now given up something to increase his chances on something else, that's added pressure. I think that decision was made as a result of the lack luster field.

I'm struggling to think of a weaker field in Open History, probably need to go back early 00?

The rest of the field should also be very tentative, if Federer falls early it's anyone's Touney. This could be like women's FO this year.
 
BeatlesFan said:
Of course he's under pressure. He's the favorite going into the biggest tournament in tennis and he specifically skipped the clay to better his chances. He's in a position where if he doesn't win it, most will second-guess his decision to forgo thousands of potential points on the dirt. He put all his eggs in one basket - so yes, he's under more pressure than usual.

Finally, he's almost 36. This is his last realistic chance of winning it, increasing his pressure even more.
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Wimbledon is not the "biggest tournament in tennis" but the most popular one. Common misconception though. Would a player with 2 Wimbledon titles be considered better than a player with 2 US Open titles? Of course no. So Wimbledon is equally relevant as other Grand Slams.
 
PMChambers said:
Yes, this will be the greatest expectation to win since 2008. He is currently vastly superior to his opposition. On current top 16 form, there are realistically no one near his level. On top of that missing FO to focus on Wimbledon can only make the pressure higher. He's now given up something to increase his chances on something else, that's added pressure. I think that decision was made as a result of the lack luster field.

I'm struggling to think of a weaker field in Open History, probably need to go back early 00?

The rest of the field should also be very tentative, if Federer falls early it's anyone's Touney. This could be like women's FO this year.
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You're basing this on AO/American HC swing Fed. Getting bounced in his first grass event shows that's not necessarily who is showing up to Wimby. He's as vulnerable to upset as anyone.

As bad as Rafa has been on grass recently I feel better about where is form is at than Fed. Would not shock me if this is a tourney with a surprise winner or if Djokovic/Murray quietly grind thru and mop up after someone else upsets Fed. I agree tho that the field isn't crazy strong, I just see Fed as more part of the field than above it.
 
The big 5 are all still contenders with Fed and Nadal being the top two favorites. The only way Fed would feel pressure is if he places it on himself. Nadal always plays under pressure and can handle it better than him.

I'm predicting Nishikori to be a dark horse. His low center of gravity is an advantage with hitting the low skidding balls off grass and will be right in his strike zone. What he needs to do is step up his serving game. If it's off or ineffective, he'll have no chance of winning.
 
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Sport said:
Wimbledon is not the "biggest tournament in tennis" but the most popular one. Common misconception though. Would a player with 2 Wimbledon titles be considered better than a player with 2 US Open titles? Of course no. So Wimbledon is equally relevant as other Grand Slams.
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A lot of things wrong with this post. Mostly generalization and false suppositions.

1. Wimbledon is probably the most famous Grand Slam tournament, but there is nothing to indicate that it's the most popular. The Australian Open, for instance, appears to draw in more spectators and TV viewership, but that might possibly be just because of the recent matchups that happened to occur.

2. Would a player with 2 Wimbledon titles be considered better than a player with 2 US Opens? For a significant period in Tennis history, yes. Particularly in the Amateur Era and the early years of the Open Era, there was Wimbledon and then there were the other Slams, with the Australian Open being the red-headed stepchild among them. In fact, even the Tennis Masters Cup was a bigger and more important title than the Australian Open. Even now, I'm sure you'd find people who rate Wimbledon winners over US Open winners, though I find that unreasonable given current tour conditions.

Right now, I think all the Grand Slams are as close to equal as they've ever been and any difference in their importance is perceived rather than real. But Wimbledon, given its history of being the premier tournament for many, many years during the formative years of Tennis and the professional tour, will always have a sheen of prestige that no other tournament will ever have.
 
cc0509 said:
No. I don't think he's under pressure at all although he 's the favorite to win Wimbledon. He's 35 and has already won the AO beating his biggest nemesis to do so which nobody expected. He made a wise decision not playing the FO and he can go out there freely at Wimbledon and give it his best shot. His fans are putting enormous pressure on him and are expecting a lot but I don't think he should feel pressure at all. If he wins it would be an incredible added bonus but if he doesn't, how does it really affect him negatively? He has nothing to lose.
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Pressure or not, he has to feel good about this year because of finally winning another major. It would be different if he had lost in the final and had to struggle through clay, hoping against likelihood to win another grass major.
 
BeatlesFan said:
Of course he's under pressure. He's the favorite going into the biggest tournament in tennis and he specifically skipped the clay to better his chances. He's in a position where if he doesn't win it, most will second-guess his decision to forgo thousands of potential points on the dirt. He put all his eggs in one basket - so yes, he's under more pressure than usual.

Finally, he's almost 36. This is his last realistic chance of winning it, increasing his pressure even more.
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I think that's an important point right there. No matter what he says, or even if he won AO, he skipped clay for this. Which means it matters to him a lot.
 
StANDAA said:
Because if he loses early, he would throw away his best chance to ever win Wimby again and regret not playing FO...
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I don't think he will regret skipping clay no matter what happens. That was also to let him play longer. He needed a rest rather than racking up some QF's and semis at best.

Even if he does win USO and WO (highly unlikely) i would not regret skipping clay since he really had no chance of a win at RG.
 
VexlanderPrime said:
You're basing this on AO/American HC swing Fed. Getting bounced in his first grass event shows that's not necessarily who is showing up to Wimby. He's as vulnerable to upset as anyone.

As bad as Rafa has been on grass recently I feel better about where is form is at than Fed. Would not shock me if this is a tourney with a surprise winner or if Djokovic/Murray quietly grind thru and mop up after someone else upsets Fed. I agree tho that the field isn't crazy strong, I just see Fed as more part of the field than above it.
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You'd have to look at last 6 months and more recent form at a guide. Murray is playing very poorly and bellow his No.4 form. Djokovic seem to have completely lost it, even if he has a few good games there's no foundations to his play. Not sure he really wants to be out there competing. Nadal does not have the physicality to off-set his lack of grass court technique any more. Big servers like Anderson and Raonic, are not p[laying well and Federer will get too uch back and force them to hit play too many balls. Wawrinka can't play grass court tennis, he does not have the game for it, he better at a surface he can power through. Cilic is not not likely to play good enough long enough to make it too the end, and Federer will have it all over him. Thiem, clay courter, wont make 2nd round like Wawrinka he likes a slower consistent court he can power through. Nishikori is so erratic and has to fight too hard to hold, he does not really have grass cred.

Federer could lose, anyone can lose and Tourney. But this is looking like one of the worst form Wimbledon in the Open History. there is just nothing there but slow HC and clay court players. Which makes sence as the circuit is all bout Medium pace surfaces. Federer has this one on his racquet.

Still struggling to think of a weaker Wimbledon field in Open history? Maybe you can come up with one. Even 87 had Becker, Edberg & Cash as grass courters. Lendl grass recourd was actually reasonable. Leconte and Wilander where dangerous, Leconte through erratic brilliance and Wilander playing the odds better than anyone. Connors was well past it but still dangerous in the early rounds, Cash cleaned him up well. usually Wimmbledon has 3-4 players with a realiostic chance, this year one. At least Nadal FO was uncerttain with Thiem and his inability to play 2 week.

BTW Federer gave the Stuttgart as a leaving gift. No way he will be beat like that when it counts.
 
There's a lot of pressure on Federer now. We all know what Wimbledon means to him and how great his record on grass is. Winning the AO and the sunshine double proved he's still a top contender, which instantly increased people's expectations/pressure on him to perform. Expectations were probably at an all-time low after the 6 months hiatus, now they are sky high like they were in 2015 if not higher. Anything less than an 8th Wimbledon title will be a disappointment for "Fedfan".
 
Not sure wheter or not he SHOULD feel pressure, but his demeanour in the build-up and training videos is very relaxed and easy going. He may well have that demeanour dialled in by now, with a simmering anxiety underneath, who knows.

Roger has had such a binary season so far. 6 events with 4 wins and 2 stupid early round 3 set losses having had match points in both. It really is two extremes, often based on Roger's accuracy, so it makes it very hard to gauge how he will perform.
 
PMChambers said:
usually Wimmbledon has 3-4 players with a realiostic chance, this year one.
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Totally with you up until this point. Theres a TON of randos that have a very realistic shot of winning wimby. As you said, the field isn't strong. Combine that with Fed not being immune to upset. Its wide open.
 
Federer skipped the clay court season to avoid getting injured.

That increases his chances after that everywhere not only at Wimbledon.

Many people interpret his break as a special preparation for Wimbledon, which it is not.

:cool:
 
Now that we've seen the draw, his pressure has risen dramatically. He has the hardest draw by far of all the top guys, whereas Djoker has the easiest.
 
VexlanderPrime said:
Totally with you up until this point. Theres a TON of randos that have a very realistic shot of winning wimby. As you said, the field isn't strong. Combine that with Fed not being immune to upset. Its wide open.
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If Federer falls, the field will be very open. Will be a bit like the WTA at the moment. If Nadal is meant to be No.2 then I don't feel very confident for him either. Would be interesting if an (old) dark horse like Gasguet or Tsonga end up in the SF or Final. As long as there are good matches and match-up I don't really care. Wimbledon becoming a bit like Paris-Roubaix of the cycling world, holds prestige but not really geared towards the top pro's.
 
A lot of pressure. Winning the AO relieved a lot of pressure from winning another slam. But since then:

- He backed up his AO title with titles in IW and Miami, showing he can play with consistency at a high level;
- Made winning Wimbledon his priority by skipping the clay season;
- Only two players have had regularly the edge on him. Nadal, whom he defeated three time in a row, and Djokovic, who is going further down the spiral. It's unlikely that Nole will turn things around on grass;
- The n°1 Murray, who didn't give him to much problems in recent years, is not at his top level;
- Dimitrov, Kyrgios and A. Zverev who are the rising players on grass, haven't been too impressive recently.
- On the older generation of Wimbledon dark horse, only Cilic may be a threat. He was certainly one last year.

So for me I would be very disappointed if he doesn't win Wimbledon. The only circumstance where I could stomach it is if Nadal win it instead, because Nadal will always be the ultimate challenge for him. Or Wawrinka, although it's impossible.
 
PMChambers said:
Wimbledon becoming a bit like Paris-Roubaix of the cycling world, holds prestige but not really geared towards the top pro's.
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Facepalm.

Paris-Roubaix is geared towards the Spring classics specialists.

In recent times Wimbledon is geared towards the type of game that is played by everyone.

It is the opposite of Paris-Roubaix.

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Tennis_Hands said:
Facepalm.

Paris-Roubaix is geared towards the Spring classics specialists.

In recent times Wimbledon is geared towards the type of game that is played by everyone.

It is the opposite of Paris-Roubaix.

:cool:
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I think he's making a grass rareity ref in general but yah Wimby seems to have intentionally slowed itself to conform
 
BeatlesFan said:
Finally, he's almost 36. This is his last realistic chance of winning it, increasing his pressure even more.
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Okay I mean no disrespect but it would be great if people could stop saying stuff like this. Oh lord how many times has "This year is Player X's last realistic chance to win it" come up here for years and years. Wimbledon 2014 was his last shot at a slam as well, then he made two more slam finals destroying everyone in his path until the final and won the AO at 35 showing few signs of it after half a year of not playing any matches and actually improving some aspects of his game to compensate for losses elsewhere. It has been his best season by far since 2012, if he wins Wimbledon it's already his best season since 2009 (or maybe even 2007). The guy is not going to magically start being crap one year later in terms of ability. I think this year proves his base game is simply too good to ever fall off that hard unless we're talking many more years down the road. If he gets badly injured again then yes, but otherwise I can't see how 35 or 36 is going to matter. If he stays healthy he'll get another chance next year.

In any case, on topic: yes, I do he think he feels a little pressure. Mainly because while the Australian Open was a complete surprise for him as well, Wimbledon is the one he's always been gunning for to win one more time. This year again is based around trying the win Wimbledon. Maybe it won't show for a while but if he reaches the final I'm sure he'll feel the pressure.
 
VexlanderPrime said:
I think he's making a grass rareity ref in general but yah Wimby seems to have intentionally slowed itself to conform
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I think that this interpretation is incorrect.

Having in mind the comments about the "open season" and the lack of many favourites, he is either:

1) referring to some impression that Roubaix is not won by Spring classics favourites, because, you see, anyone can and does win it

2) The conditions at Wimbledon don't suit the top players just like the requirements for winning P-R are completely different from the requirements for winning a Grand Tour and hence do not suit the GT contenders

Both facepalm worthy.

:cool:
 
BeatlesFan said:
Now that we've seen the draw, his pressure has risen dramatically. He has the hardest draw by far of all the top guys, whereas Djoker has the easiest.
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Looks simple to me. Nothing but pigeons in his Quarter then a potential QF with Raonic or Zverev.

He will own zverev on grass like in Halle, and I expect him to take down Raonic. He should've won last year on one leg.

As far as I'm concerned he has the easiest draw (at least compared to Murray altho he does well vs Nick). He's avoided both Kyrgios and Cilic until the final, if they get there (very unlikely)
 
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