Should Gaudenzi step down?

[socallefty]

Should Gaudenzi step down from his post as ATP President with the stench of corruption swirling around the organization he runs after the ‘slap on the wrist’ given to the top Italian player Sinner after his failed drug test unlike lower ranked players who are suspended? The fact that Gaudenzi is Italian transmits the wrong PR message not only about how there are separate rules for top players, but possibly even more favorable treatment for top Italian players. This is following moving the ATP Finals to a city Turin in his home country.

Or even better should he be fired?

 

[Jack the Hack]

The International Tennis Integrity Agency, which administers the drug testing and anti-corruption programs, is completely independent from the ATP. Rather, they provide their services to not only the ATP, but the WTA, the ITF, and the Grand Slam tournament organizers. Gaudenzi has no influence over their investigations or the outcome of the punishments.

Here's the link to the ITIA to learn more about the organization and how this works: https://www.itia.tennis/

Here are the relevant rules for the anti-doping program: https://www.itia.tennis/tadp/rules/

And finally, here is the direct link to the full documentation on the Sinner case, which is worth the read if you want to understand what happened, who was involved, and how the decision was made by the Independent Tribunal: https://www.itia.tennis/media/yzgd3xoz/240819-itia-v-sinner.pdf

 

[timmyy]

Got some news for you: Santa Claus doesn't exist.

 

[vokazu]

What made it sound corrupt was that the way they kept it secret for so long. It's a scandal and is truly embarrassing, judging by the reactions from fellow tennis players and tennis world.

Many other players tested positive because of "accidents", yet they still served temporary ban for like 9 months or more. Why not Sinner? This is a cover up and a corruption.

 

[NaDjoFed]

kyrgios level here

 

[NaDjoFed]

The International Tennis Integrity Agency, which administers the drug testing and anti-corruption programs, is completely independent from the ATP. Rather, they provide their services to not only the ATP, but the WTA, the ITF, and the Grand Slam tournament organizers. Gaudenzi has no influence over their investigations or the outcome of the punishments.

Here's the link to the ITIA to learn more about the organization and how this works: https://www.itia.tennis/

Here are the relevant rules for the anti-doping program: https://www.itia.tennis/tadp/rules/

And finally, here is the direct link to the full documentation on the Sinner case, which is worth the read if you want to understand what happened, who was involved, and how the decision was made by the Independent Tribunal: https://www.itia.tennis/media/yzgd3xoz/240819-itia-v-sinner.pdf

Nah, reading and understanding facts is too tiring (and difficult)

 

[Jack the Hack]

Nah, reading and understanding facts is too tiring (and difficult)

Unfortunately, that's the attitude of many TT@TW members... and Redditors... and Facebook users... etc, etc.

It's so much easier to mindlessly troll away anonymously on a keyboard with uninformed opinions and conspiracy theories.

It would be awesome if Internet behavior were different, but the expectations are always low when I choose to log in.

 

[TheWizardFromElPalmar]

He was a **** player, and he is a **** ATP president for sure...he should be forced to leave...the top players needs to react about the Doped Italian aswell.

 

[tennis4me]

What made it sound corrupt was that the way they kept it secret for so long. It's a scandal and is truly embarrassing, judging by the reactions from fellow tennis players and tennis world.

Many other players tested positive because of "accidents", yet they still served temporary ban for like 9 months or more. Why not Sinner? This is a cover up and a corruption.

They claimed (from an article I read as a response to a journalist questioning them on this), that they do this all the time for all players. They only announce it once they know of the next step in the decision.

 

[Jack the Hack]

They claimed (from an article I read as a response to a journalist questioning them on this), that they do this all the time for all players. They only announce it once they know of the next step in the decision.

This is correct. The confidentiality rules are in section 14.4 of the Tennis Anti-Doping Programme on the ITIA website: https://www.itia.tennis/tadp/rules/

14.4 Confidentiality
14.4.1 The ITIA will use its reasonable endeavours to ensure that Persons under its control do not publicly identify Players or other Persons whose Samples have resulted in Adverse Analytical Findings or Atypical Findings, or Atypical Passport Findings or Adverse Passport Findings, or are alleged to have committed an Anti-Doping Rule Violation under this Programme, unless and until a Provisional Suspension has been imposed or accepted, or a charge has been Publicly Disclosed further to Article 7.13.4, or an Independent Tribunal has determined that an Anti-Doping Rule Violation has been committed, and/or the Anti-Doping Rule Violation has been admitted.
14.4.2 The ITIA will ensure that its employees (whether permanent or otherwise), contractors, agents, consultants, and Delegated Third Parties are subject to a fully enforceable contractual duty of confidentiality and to fully enforceable procedures for the investigation and disciplining of improper and/or unauthorised disclosure of such confidential information.

In this situation, the information about Sinner's case wasn't disclosed publically until the Independent Tribunal had finished their investigation, reviewed the facts, and adjudicated a penalty for the rule violation. This was done by the book. That said, I am quite shocked that the information didn't leak. Everyone involved did a masterful job keeping this under wraps until it had to be divulged by the ITIA.

BTW, in my opinion, if this were a corrupt cover-up, the story would have never seen the light of day at all.

 

[socallefty]

The International Tennis Integrity Agency, which administers the drug testing and anti-corruption programs, is completely independent from the ATP.

That might be on paper, but I highly doubt that it works that way in reality. Otherwise many more stars would be getting caught and punished while in tennis it is usually the lower ranked players who get punished. The locker rumor about favors done for stars (random test dates being announced in advance, easier access to TUEs including retroactively) is likely not being done by ITIA without coordination with the top ATP execs.

 

[Jack the Hack]

That might be on paper, but I highly doubt that it works that way in reality. Otherwise many more stars would be getting caught and punished while in tennis it is usually the lower ranked players who get punished. The locker rumor about favors done for stars (random test dates being announced in advance, easier access to TUEs including retroactively) is likely not being done by ITIA with no coordination with the ATP execs.

Sure, you are entitled to your opinions and doubts. That doesn't make them a reality.

Personally, as I stated above, I believe that if this were a corrupt cover-up coordinated by the ATP and ITIA, the story would have never seen the light of day at all. There is no upside to having the #1 player in the world test positive for a drug and letting the news get out.

 

[TennisBro]

The International Tennis Integrity Agency, which administers the drug testing and anti-corruption programs, is completely independent from the ATP. Rather, they provide their services to not only the ATP, but the WTA, the ITF, and the Grand Slam tournament organizers. Gaudenzi has no influence over their investigations or the outcome of the punishments.

I see you are a believer.

Here's the link to the ITIA to learn more about the organization and how this works: https://www.itia.tennis/

Here are the relevant rules for the anti-doping program: https://www.itia.tennis/tadp/rules/

And finally, here is the direct link to the full documentation on the Sinner case, which is worth the read if you want to understand what happened, who was involved, and how the decision was made by the Independent Tribunal: https://www.itia.tennis/media/yzgd3xoz/240819-itia-v-sinner.pdf

Ain't that your bible?

Heavens help and online organized crime; siphoning of money has never been easier for some.

 

[FeroBango]

What made it sound corrupt was that the way they kept it secret for so long. It's a scandal and is truly embarrassing, judging by the reactions from fellow tennis players and tennis world.

Many other players tested positive because of "accidents", yet they still served temporary ban for like 9 months or more. Why not Sinner? This is a cover up and a corruption.

Wait for the Sinner brigade to tell you that rules have been followed thus Sinner is innocent, entirely missing the point of these questions raised.

 

[Deleted member 806402]

Unfortunately, that's the attitude of many TT@TW members... and Redditors... and Facebook users... etc, etc.

It's so much easier to mindlessly troll away anonymously on a keyboard with uninformed opinions and conspiracy theories.

It would be awesome if Internet behavior were different, but the expectations are always low when I choose to log in.

Making the facts more digestible would also help.

Giving a brief summary with the structure of the document and links to salient parts so people can skim through the it. Additionally, making a simple html page describing the chain of events with a visual/interactive support.
Or drop a supporting video, doing something as simple as saying what's already in the document with some background images to help the viewer keep track of the events.

It's 2024. Instead of being condescending, the parties involved should also try to adapt. Otherwise, the digestible, interactive, multimedia, shorter-form content, will drive the narrative.
This content will likely emerge on social media and be authored by parties seeking to drive engagement. They, as a direct consequence, will necessarily pay a different kind of attention to the raw data present in the document.

Just take a look at the engagement of one of Ben Rothenberg post on X (800k views) vs that of Darren Cahill's interview on YouTube (YouTube).

 

[socallefty]

Wish the impartial ITIA and non-corrupt Gaudenzi had read this article before acquitting Sinner who is the 5th Italian ATP player to be caught with Clostebol in his body since 2021.

Italy’s Clostebol doping crisis across tennis, football and the Olympics

An anabolic steroid once given to East and West German athletes has resurfaced in elite Italian sport. Honest Sport investigates whether the drug is now being used similarly to testosterone creams.

honestsport.substack.com

 

[socallefty]

Roll call of shame for ATP Italian players being caught in drug tests with Clostebol in their system since 2021.

• Matilde Paoletti, Mariano Tammaro, Stefano Battaglino, Marco Bortolotti and Jannik Sinner

Coincidence. Sure, just like East German and Chinese swimmers.

 

[travlerajm]

Unfortunately, that's the attitude of many TT@TW members... and Redditors... and Facebook users... etc, etc.

It's so much easier to mindlessly troll away anonymously on a keyboard with uninformed opinions and conspiracy theories.

It would be awesome if Internet behavior were different, but the expectations are always low when I choose to log in.

The problem here is that we are only being told parts of the story. And the parts of the story we are being told don’t add up.

 

[pasta]

Unfortunately, that's the attitude of many TT@TW members... and Redditors... and Facebook users... etc, etc.

It's so much easier to mindlessly troll away anonymously on a keyboard with uninformed opinions and conspiracy theories.

It would be awesome if Internet behavior were different, but the expectations are always low when I choose to log in.

First : I respect your knowledge and input on this matter. You provide lot of facts and clear mind on this situation !Thank you for that !
But please stay away from labeling people as I do not agree with you on this one !

Filter the garbage out and ignore them, this way ... not helping

Many legitimate questions are raised by tennis players, fans and especially people that are professionals in their "investigative" field - reputable journalist and even some legal professionals who look at facts and have doubts about this whole process (based on story told/facts known so far) ...

Just too many holes in this story - it will take a lot to untangle all of this and you are doing your best to provide relevant information but there is still a lot that remains unanswered !
You are doing your best to plug those holes with your facts but please ... some of us want answers and unfortunatelly we are not there yet !

Seeking answers is not trolling !

some forum members are those pros (and you might be one of them) that come here and seek the "feel" of their audience that would help them in their work .

 

[socallefty]

Sinner’s lawyer also represented ITIA as it is in his client list. And his firm has listed the ATP on their client list. Did someone say there is no corruption, the ITIA does not take marching orders from the ATP etc. Sure! I have some oceanfront property In Arizona to sell to those folks.

Egregious conflict of interest surfaces in Jannik Sinner escaping drugs ban despite failed tests as Italian's lawyer has ITIA on client list

Jannik Sinner has landed in the eye of a major storm in the tennis world, as the World No.

www.sportskeeda.com