Should I lose weight?

bullet1020

New User
I'm a guy and I weigh 260 lbs I'm not overly obese in anyway ..

I'm just really muscular of course I have a little bit of fat but most of my weight is muscles and bone mass .. heck .. my legs, calves and butt is so muscular that they are comparable to serena's

I play at least 3-4 hours straight a day .. usually rally and I'm actually good ..but my friends who are coaches keeps saying I need to lose weight ..

Any tips?
 

bullet1020

New User
I'm a guy and I weigh 260 lbs I'm not overly obese in anyway ..

I'm just really muscular of course I have a little bit of fat but most of my weight is muscles and bone mass .. heck .. my legs, calves and butt is so muscular that they are comparable to serena's

I play at least 3-4 hours straight a day .. usually rally and I'm actually good ..but my friends who are coaches keeps saying I need to lose weight ..

Any tips?

Oh I'm 6' flat
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
I'm a guy and I weigh 260 lbs I'm not overly obese in anyway ..

I'm just really muscular of course I have a little bit of fat but most of my weight is muscles and bone mass .. heck .. my legs, calves and butt is so muscular that they are comparable to serena's

I play at least 3-4 hours straight a day .. usually rally and I'm actually good ..but my friends who are coaches keeps saying I need to lose weight ..

Any tips?

yeah all that crap is just a number. Everyone is different. If you move well and are not obese well who cares.

I am 208 and obese so there :)
 

shindemac

Hall of Fame
Yes, lose weight. That's a lot for even a muscular 6', unless your on steriods. What's your waist size? If it's over 34, I'd consider that overweight.

Stop eating the cheetos and ding dongs. No more pop either.
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
I went from 245 to 172 in a few years.

Yeah, most of it wasn't muscle.

Tennis is rough on your joints and additional weight compounds the pounding that your leg joints have to endure. If you look at the pros in the top 20, you'll see that weights are similar for similar heights with some variance.

David Ferrer i something like 155 pounds but he looks pretty strong, is incredibly fit and has been in the top 4/5 of the world with a better ranking against much bigger guys like Isner, Berdych, Karlovic, Del Potro, Soderling, Anderson, etc.
 

beernutz

Hall of Fame
I'm a guy and I weigh 260 lbs I'm not overly obese in anyway ..

I'm just really muscular of course I have a little bit of fat but most of my weight is muscles and bone mass .. heck .. my legs, calves and butt is so muscular that they are comparable to serena's

I play at least 3-4 hours straight a day .. usually rally and I'm actually good ..but my friends who are coaches keeps saying I need to lose weight ..

Any tips?

The CDC would disagree since your BMI is >35 and over 30 is considered obese.
 

TeamOB

Professional
I studied tennis when I was 8 but stopped because my mom turned a ligament on her knee when she was preparing for a backhand drive ..

I tried tennis again last year and my mom said I drastically improve from zero to 3.5 to 4.0

My question is .. is it possible to reach 6.0 by next year and enter at least college level .. I'm willing to work hard .. my mom trains me almost 7 days a week ..

I'm a guy and I weigh 260 lbs I'm not overly obese in anyway ..

I'm just really muscular of course I have a little bit of fat but most of my weight is muscles and bone mass .. heck .. my legs, calves and butt is so muscular that they are comparable to serena's

I play at least 3-4 hours straight a day .. usually rally and I'm actually good ..but my friends who are coaches keeps saying I need to lose weight ..

Any tips?

Actually laughed out loud when I realized these two posts were posted by the same guy. Comedy gold!
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
Lebron James does just fine at 245 lbs.
OTOH, he's 6'9" tall and kinda ripped.
If you move well, you are somewhat fast, and somewhat quick, you're fine for rec tennis up to 5.0.
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
Wood basketball court is a lot softer than hardcourts.

Isner is 238 pounds and he does have joint problems.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
We don't know, and can't know.
Might help to see a picture.
Or a vid of OP playing tennis.
Didn't that US wrestler (greco/roman) Rulon Jones (??) stand 6'2" and weigh 370?
 
We don't know, and can't know.
Might help to see a picture.
Or a vid of OP playing tennis.
Didn't that US wrestler (greco/roman) Rulon Jones (??) stand 6'2" and weigh 370?

I doubt that guy would make a very good tennis player at that size though :twisted:
 

BMC9670

Hall of Fame
May I ask how old you are? I would guess pretty young by your post. If so, the weight might not bother you much now, but it will as you age.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
I think we need a vid or a pic, and still we can't be sure, everyone is different.
I had a roomate who was 5'10" and 270 lbs., that all city wrestler dude. He could kick a no parking street cleaner sign, and land on his feet. He rode a HondaCR-500, and made AMA District 36 Intermediate. He could surf on an 8'6" G&S funboard. His endurance was NOT spectacular. He was windsurfing at Waddell Creek, an advanced wave sailing venue, his first year of windsurfing.
His 3rd year of windsurfing, he was timed 3 mph faster than FredHaywood, LairdHamilton, and RoddyLewis at the Ponds.
He succumbed to knee problems right after that, racing snowmobiles in the Tahoe backcountry.
 

BMC9670

Hall of Fame
I think we need a vid or a pic, and still we can't be sure, everyone is different.
I had a roomate who was 5'10" and 270 lbs., that all city wrestler dude. He could kick a no parking street cleaner sign, and land on his feet. He rode a HondaCR-500, and made AMA District 36 Intermediate. He could surf on an 8'6" G&S funboard. His endurance was NOT spectacular. He was windsurfing at Waddell Creek, an advanced wave sailing venue, his first year of windsurfing.
His 3rd year of windsurfing, he was timed 3 mph faster than FredHaywood, LairdHamilton, and RoddyLewis at the Ponds.
He succumbed to knee problems right after that, racing snowmobiles in the Tahoe backcountry.

Again, sounds like this guy was young IF/WHEN (LeeD qualifier) he did these things. 5'10" 270 at 40+ is a different story.
 

Sumo

Semi-Pro
We don't know, and can't know.
Might help to see a picture.
Or a vid of OP playing tennis.
Didn't that US wrestler (greco/roman) Rulon Jones (??) stand 6'2" and weigh 370?

The Olympics have a weight limit that is 100lbs less than your guess.
And I assume you're talking about Rulon Gardner.
 

WildVolley

Legend
I'm a guy and I weigh 260 lbs I'm not overly obese in anyway ..

I'm just really muscular of course I have a little bit of fat but most of my weight is muscles and bone mass .. heck .. my legs, calves and butt is so muscular that they are comparable to serena's

I play at least 3-4 hours straight a day .. usually rally and I'm actually good ..but my friends who are coaches keeps saying I need to lose weight ..

Any tips?

Hard to tell what you mean by not "overly obsese."

If you're really 6' tall and 260 lbs of mostly muscle, you should probably be playing professional football (if you disregard that permanent brain damage risk) rather than tennis.
 

GoaLaSSo

Semi-Pro
Hard to tell what you mean by not "overly obsese."

If you're really 6' tall and 260 lbs of mostly muscle, you should probably be playing professional football (if you disregard that permanent brain damage risk) rather than tennis.

I would imagine he just means he is a stocky guy with a good amount of chunk and some muscle underneath.
 

GoudX

Professional
I'm a guy and I weigh 260 lbs I'm not overly obese in anyway ..

I'm just really muscular of course I have a little bit of fat but most of my weight is muscles and bone mass .. heck .. my legs, calves and butt is so muscular that they are comparable to serena's

I play at least 3-4 hours straight a day .. usually rally and I'm actually good ..but my friends who are coaches keeps saying I need to lose weight ..

Any tips?

If you are 260lbs of just muscle and bone you should be able to deadlift 520lbs, if you are 'lean and muscular' at 260lbs you should be able to deadlift 400lbs.

http://www.mensfitness.com/training/build-muscle/deadlift-test-your-strength

Even if this is true, you are waaaaay above optimum tennis weight. I imagine that your optimum tennis weight is down around 170lbs. The maximum I'd advise for a healthy lifestyle or tennis playing would be around 200lbs.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
According to the ads on late night TV, all you'd need is to take ONE pill, once a day, and you will become 220 lbs of lean mean fighting machine.
 

cjs

Professional
I'm about 10kg/20pound overweight and even that amount makes a big difference to my movement around a tennis court.

Plus my health is probably suffering in the long run too.

So yes lose weight. I'm trying.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
Do those studies take into account different body builds and heritage?
I"m Asian, 5'10", and until I hit 35 years of age, never weighed more than 132 lbs. Now at 65, 150 lbs. I got easy a 15 lbs spare tire.
Would I be healthier at 135 lbs.?

Of course, I know the answer.
 

GuyClinch

Legend
FWIW - I don't really believe you - the average man jacked will not be muscular at 260 unless you are 7 foot tall. There has been a lot of work done on a person's muscular potential and there is basically no one who is not using hormones who is going to be jacked at 260.

Martin Berkhan of Leangains.com has a somewhat simpler model than Casey’s, also based on his observation of top level natural bodybuilding competitors who are contest lean (e.g. 4-5% body fat).

His equation is:

Height in centimeters – 100 = upper limit of weight in kilograms in contest shape.

So take your height in inches and multiply by 2.54, that’s your height in centimeters. Subtract 100 and that’s your predicted maximum weight in contest shape (which is 5% body fat or less for males) in kilograms. Multiply that value by 2.2 to get pounds. So let’s look at body weight at 10% body fat using the same heights I used for Casey’s calculator. I’ve also calculated out lean body mass at 10% body fat.

So for example I am 76 inches tall or 193 centimeters - 100 ..so that's 93 kilograms. That's 204 of lean mass plus another 20 pounds of fat (10 percent or so is reasonable for an athlete). So the most muscular and lean I could possibly be is 224 or so pounds.

So yeah lose some weight - and stop kidding yourself. Unless you are extremely tall and muscular and are a pro bodybuilder you aren't going to carry that kind of lean mass.

There was one D1 college linebacker who was a very good tennis player. He was pretty ripped at 240 or so (probably with some chemical help). But even he admitted he should lose some weight to play better tennis.

The big problem is that running around on concrete increases the shocks to your joints. Muscle on your legs does some to offer some cushioning - but the muscles in your upper body just seem to mostly add to the load.

If you look at the quickest all around athletes - most of them are only 200lbs or so - we are talking about pro level cornerbacks. Because the average man is only 5'10" this is right where you want to be - lean and at 200lbs or less.
Rule of thumb - can you see a six-pack. If you can't you are well above the 10% where you want to be. You don't need to get all fancy and get body fat testing and so on. I'd add that unlike NFL cornerbacks we play on a hard surface so its probably even more important that tennis players be thin.. I'd absolutely give up some muscle to stay lean for tennis.. Federer is a skinny dude - IRL. Lets be clear about this. If you get a chance to see him up close and personal - skinny.

They had this guy going around measuring biceps of players. One pro player had a bicep of 12.5 inches - a lean guy no doubt but that is seriously skinny.
 
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movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
I also heard that there was One Weird Trick to build muscle and melt fat in 30 days.

That one is all over the internet.

They put some funny-looking drawings of people in the ad.

I've never clicked on one of them.

For those who have, what's the trick?

My trick is get lots of exercise and eat fewer calories.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
Still think we need vids or pic of the OP.
Some guys have really wide shoulders, need size 40 pants at 6' tall, while other's have narrow build and wear size 30's.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
I"ve seen guys at 6' with WAAAAY wider shoulders, who could probably carry 240 lbs with ease, ankles as big as my knees, and size 15 shoes.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
No. 57 for the SanFrancisco 49'ers is listed at 6'3", 255 lbs. Is he a "fat guy"?
He took over for Patrick Willis when Pat went down, more than held his own, and they reinstalled Pat when he healed.
 

BMC9670

Hall of Fame
A. he is 3 inches taller than OP.
B. he is a pro athlete.
C. he is young. My bet is he's gonna be a fat guy by 45.
 

Enigma

Semi-Pro
Didn't that US wrestler (greco/roman) Rulon Jones (??) stand 6'2" and weigh 370?
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NLBwell

Legend
Unless you are an NFL linebacker (and you can run at least a 4.8 40 yard dash) or in a job that requires lifting heavy objects all day long, you need to lose weight.

For optimal tennis performance you should lose about 100lbs. For just everyday living maybe lose 60-80 lbs.

The best thing is to get your body fat analyzed. You can have this done by a personal trainer (usually for free) using skin fold measurements. You should be below 17% to be healthy and 25% or over is obese. As an athlete, you should be below 13%.
 

Fintft

G.O.A.T.
I'm about 10kg/20pound overweight and even that amount makes a big difference to my movement around a tennis court.

Plus my health is probably suffering in the long run too.

So yes lose weight. I'm trying.

I second that having an extra 10-20kg/25-50lbs at 6'2", 230 lbs.
 

heninfan99

Talk Tennis Guru
If you play doubles it matters not for weekly club night.
Singles, yes, that's a lot of weight to run around with.
 

GuyClinch

Legend
No. 57 for the SanFrancisco 49'ers is listed at 6'3", 255 lbs. Is he a "fat guy"?
He took over for Patrick Willis when Pat went down, more than held his own, and they reinstalled Pat when he healed.

Fat - probably not. Clean - highly doubtful. People underestimate how widespread chemical enhancement is in the NFL. Like tennis they don't exactly go with state of the art testing.. Its a kinda look the other way system they have going in the NFL.

Natural bodybuilders get paid by being as big as naturally possible at 5% fat - so we know maximum numbers.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
I"m saying people are built differently.
Patrick Willis is also around 6'3", but his max playing weight is around 240 in reality. He's really built, but not bulky.
Other players of the same height can be wider and heavier, and still have the same body fat ratio.
Other's, like Andy Murray, can be 6'3" and 182 lbs. Then again, if you look at Andy's leg size, he can easily be a 220 lbs.er, and still be somewhat athletic and quick.
 

BMC9670

Hall of Fame
I"m saying people are built differently.
Patrick Willis is also around 6'3", but his max playing weight is around 240 in reality. He's really built, but not bulky.
Other players of the same height can be wider and heavier, and still have the same body fat ratio.
Other's, like Andy Murray, can be 6'3" and 182 lbs. Then again, if you look at Andy's leg size, he can easily be a 220 lbs.er, and still be somewhat athletic and quick.

Built it any way you want - a 6' person weighing 260 needs to lose weight, which is what the OP asks. Bringing up professional athletes that are taller and weigh less is irrelevant.
 

NLBwell

Legend
I seriously doubt that the OP has a body fat percentage around 10%. If he did, he would be doing serious training and not have to ask if he needed to lose weight.
The question is, how obese is the OP? What is his body fat percentage? That will indicate how unhealthy the OP is. I hope he doesn't have diabetes yet, it is becoming more and more common in young people.
 

BMC9670

Hall of Fame
I seriously doubt that the OP has a body fat percentage around 10%. If he did, he would be doing serious training and not have to ask if he needed to lose weight.
The question is, how obese is the OP? What is his body fat percentage? That will indicate how unhealthy the OP is. I hope he doesn't have diabetes yet, it is becoming more and more common in young people.

6 foot even, 260 pounds and 10% body fat?!?!? Not unless he's a cartoon super hero!:)
 
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