Should Nadal be mad?
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I found these quotes related to Possum being mad:
"It's the same old story," Nadal said to Early of the decision to play in the light rain. "All you think about is money."
ESPN's Pam Shriver said Nadal appeared "venomous" after going down 0-3 to Gilles Muller before the rain delay. Their match had been postponed from Tuesday and was delayed an hour on Wednesday because of inclement weather.
He first expressed his anger with the passive-aggressive waiting game before the match. While Muller waited by the doors to walk out into Arthur Ashe Stadium, Nadal lingered in the locker room for eight minutes before joining him. He was asked about it by ESPN's Tom Rinaldi in the pre-match interview and unconvincingly blamed it on a miscommunication with the ATP.
His later actions suggest the same. Nadal was clearly displeased during warm-ups and at the start of the match.
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Possum mad? Roddick too?
Well, Too Bad!
They're professionals. If the show must go on, the show must go on. It's the Nadals and Roddicks of this world who truly make professional tennis unpalatable to sports fans. The obsessive whining and complaining!
I do hope more people will now be aware that it's an unmistakable fact Nadal is out to cheat at every opportunity.
"It's the same old story," Nadal said to Early of the decision to play in the light rain. "All you think about is money."
ESPN's Pam Shriver said Nadal appeared "venomous" after going down 0-3 to Gilles Muller before the rain delay. Their match had been postponed from Tuesday and was delayed an hour on Wednesday because of inclement weather.
He first expressed his anger with the passive-aggressive waiting game before the match. While Muller waited by the doors to walk out into Arthur Ashe Stadium, Nadal lingered in the locker room for eight minutes before joining him. He was asked about it by ESPN's Tom Rinaldi in the pre-match interview and unconvincingly blamed it on a miscommunication with the ATP.
His later actions suggest the same. Nadal was clearly displeased during warm-ups and at the start of the match.
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Possum mad? Roddick too?
Well, Too Bad!
They're professionals. If the show must go on, the show must go on. It's the Nadals and Roddicks of this world who truly make professional tennis unpalatable to sports fans. The obsessive whining and complaining!
I do hope more people will now be aware that it's an unmistakable fact Nadal is out to cheat at every opportunity.
T
TennisandMusic
Guest
Uhh, until someone slips in the rain and breaks their neck. You ever run around on even a slightly damp hard court? It's scary as heck.
The USTA was trying to get an hour of play in so they wouldn't have to refund tickets today hence the "it's all about money" comment. You know...trying to take the money off the fans at the potential risk of the players. Pretty bad stuff really.
P.S. The other players weren't happy either.
The USTA was trying to get an hour of play in so they wouldn't have to refund tickets today hence the "it's all about money" comment. You know...trying to take the money off the fans at the potential risk of the players. Pretty bad stuff really.
P.S. The other players weren't happy either.
Lsmkenpo
Hall of Fame
I feel it may effect Nadal a little more than other players he is predisposed to not like change, he must have order to feel secure, that is why it upsets him so much.
Nonetheless, I happen to agree with him, the interest of big business is well above the desires of the players and the fans.
They put those players on court to make sure they could get some advertising revenue from the sponsors but they wont admit that, instead you will hear they put them out there for the fans.
Total lie, they already have the fans money, but no doubt there is something in the advertising contract that limits how much they can charge advertisers if they are not showing a live match.
Nonetheless, I happen to agree with him, the interest of big business is well above the desires of the players and the fans.
They put those players on court to make sure they could get some advertising revenue from the sponsors but they wont admit that, instead you will hear they put them out there for the fans.
Total lie, they already have the fans money, but no doubt there is something in the advertising contract that limits how much they can charge advertisers if they are not showing a live match.
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Well, too bad! It's not all about him. And he doesn't control the order of play.
They put those players on court to make sure they could get some advertising revenue from the sponsors but they wont admit that, instead you will hear they put them out there for the fans.
You mean a network would rather show live tennis than a bunch of talking heads? Now there's a concept? And the fans would rather sit around not watching live tennis than watching live tennis ? ! ?
Bhagi Katbamna
Legend
Don't blame him for being upset. The courts were only playable for a few minutes and it was misting the entire time. No need to risk serious injury just to play 15 minutes.
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decades
Guest
he should be mad the other players are using him as a pinata these days.
If the officials decide that the bottom half will play 4 days in a row not only does he have the right to be upset but he should pull out of the tournament.
If he accepts this crap I will stop being a fan.
Lsmkenpo
Hall of Fame
Nadal is a good man with a handicap, special provisions should be made for him to play when he wants.
He can't do that playing 4 days in a row.
Raiden
Hall of Fame
Nadal has the right to be mad but guess what? His opponent also has the right get mad... at Nadal not playing ball :twisted:
SLD76
G.O.A.T.
eh, normally Im not a fan of Rafa's histrionics, but he had a good point today.
Why put me on a wet and slippery court when its still raining? I know i wouldnt have wanted to play. One slip and your career is over.
Bad form from the USTA. I dont blame Rafa one bit. This isnt baseball where at least they have cleats to dig into the field.
mathieu
Rookie
Maybe for you. Although maybe for the extremely-injury prone Nadal too.
However, that is an extreme over exaggeration. Give me an example who slipped and ended their career.
SLD76
G.O.A.T.
why risk the injury? you could slip and roll your ankle and at the very least your season could be done?
Why risk it??
Clarky21
Banned
Are you serious? Players have slipped and fallen on DRY courts and been seriously injured. He was right to protest being forced to go out and play on wet courts just so the USO doesn't have to give refunds. They chose money over the safety of the players.
dumb answer why would anybody risk any type of injury for 1 tennis match. the usta is a joke just looking to make money. Tommy Hass stepped on a tennis ball as was out for 9 months so what would happen if nadal was running full speed and tore up his knee. James Blake slipped on clay hit the net post and was out over 6 months is that enough
mathieu
Rookie
why play wimbledon then? Tons of players slipped all over the place, but they still played.
In any match there is a risk of getting an injury. So what your saying is no match is worth the risk? Get your scared ass off the tennis court
lendledbergfan
Rookie
Yup, they are professionals. Who should act professionally, when the organizers of their profession act professionally. If not, then should be professional enough to take stances against the unprofessional behavior of the organization/organizers and try to make them act professionally.
ubermeyer
Hall of Fame
Why should they care what you think? I personally agree with the players, it's not fair to them.
In any match there is a risk of getting an injury. So what your saying is no match is worth the risk? Get your scared ass off the tennis court
It's a much bigger risk playing on wet courts. If someone says they won't drive 150 mph because the risk of injury is too great, that doesn't mean they also object to driving 5 mph in the parking lot - which does have a risk of injury too, albeit very small.
SLD76
G.O.A.T.
150mph on a wet windy road, in the dark at that.
bah, this guy is trollin. Or just a completely irrational rafa hater. no reasonable tennis fan thinks its a good idea to play at the pro level on wet courts when its raining.
I was hitting against the wall a few weeks ago. I played for a bit in the light rain, but once the courts were completely wet, I got the hell out of there.
soyelmocano
Rookie
I am generally not a fan of Nadal, but I think he is correct to complain. Looking at radar, the officials could have known with some certainty how much time they would have before rain came.
Also, for those talking about it not being a risk. You are partly right. It is usually not a risk because the players would not have been sent out to play in that. And though it isn't tennis, one fall can end your career. Check Robert Edwards in American Football playing a "friendly" exhibition style game.
Also, for those talking about it not being a risk. You are partly right. It is usually not a risk because the players would not have been sent out to play in that. And though it isn't tennis, one fall can end your career. Check Robert Edwards in American Football playing a "friendly" exhibition style game.
edmondsm
Legend
What Nadal should be most mad about is that they are going to do women's matches during the night session (if they can). Why on earth would they do this when they are crunched for time??? The women play back-to-back 3 setters all the time, it's the men who are facing having to play best of 5 four days in a row. Is there something I'm missing here? It just seems like idiotic decision making for the second time today.
Subventricular Zone
Rookie
Nadal is right. They were asked to go on court and they did. However, the conditions were not safe. Why should they risk serious injuries if they shouldn't be out playing in the first place?
And before anyone talks about other sports being played rain or shine or snow, we're talking about hard courts here. Is there any other major sport out there that's played on cement? Playing on these slippery conditions is very dangerous.
And before anyone talks about other sports being played rain or shine or snow, we're talking about hard courts here. Is there any other major sport out there that's played on cement? Playing on these slippery conditions is very dangerous.
why play wimbledon then? Tons of players slipped all over the place, but they still played.
In any match there is a risk of getting an injury. So what your saying is no match is worth the risk? Get your scared ass off the tennis court
How clueless are you go play on a wet court have fun.
Lsmkenpo
Hall of Fame
The men complained so they are being punished for it, by not getting to play if it clears up tonight.
SLD76
G.O.A.T.
wow...tournament directors that petty?
Just watching espn, they showed Petkovic, Pennetta, Pavylvbdskova(!!) and Wozniacki huddled in convo with Serena's agent.
Mac joked that the agent was saying "this is what Serena says you should do"..
Very telling Serena sent her agent...it seemed to John that they were maybe contemplating refusing to take the court like the men. Surely it means something Serena wasnt there in person.
Subventricular Zone
Rookie
^^No. They're still hoping to get the women's matches in because they're hoping to get a small window by which they can get best-of-three matches in, as opposed to the best-of-five for the men. They were never going to get the men to finish tonight anyway.
Raiden
Hall of Fame
If what you say is true then clearly the men playes who refused also may be playing copycat on each other and their refusal is not really spontaneous but perhaps a case of one guy instigating it all and others jumping on the bandwagon out of opportunism.
Rickenbacker4003
Hall of Fame
If you morons are gonna critisize Nadal, then critisize Murray, Djokovic and Roddick too because they also complained about this and Joker even suggested to Pam Shriver there should be a roof. Despite the FACT that Nadal, Murray and Roddick complained to the referee you people only take that chance to throw Nadal under the bus even more.
Tennis_Monk
Hall of Fame
Nadal stated his opinion. Whats wrong with that ?. How is that cheating?. What facts are you referring to?
Crisstti
Legend
Of course he (and the others) are right to complain. Any reasonable person would agree with that and see what the USTA was trying to do in sending them there... as can be seen by the fact that only a couple of irrational Nadal haters (mathieu, DMan and jerriy) here are disagreeing. They're attitude is just bizarre.
I am surprised by how much Nadal is saying about this though and how straight forward he's being about it. Surprised in a good way.
I am surprised by how much Nadal is saying about this though and how straight forward he's being about it. Surprised in a good way.
OK. Milos Raonic, who rose from 185at the beginning of this year to 27by by June or whenever Wimbledon was slipped on the grass because it was still wet from the rain and injured his hip and hasn;t been able to play since. His year was ruined and possibly his career. Wimbledon apologized to him...big deal. PS do you play tennis in the rain or at all?
LuvTheGame
Banned
Nadal is being used by USTA as a Scapegoat! Question ESPN's reporting, making it seem that Nadal was the only player upset and the most outspoken. Applaud his leadership and willingness to speak out. The health of the players was not a priority today - so let's just tell it like it is!
USTA Official was interviewed and actually said five of the six men set to play today did NOT complain, only Roddick. The camera then went back to Brad Gilbert who said that he personally saw Andy Murry complain to the Umpire, before the match began, as he was on that particular court!
Rickenbacker4003
Hall of Fame
Everybody here forgot Murray and Roddick went in the office with Nadal and voiced their displeasure too. But in the Nadal Hater Warehouse Forum it's all Nadal's fault and he's a baby for complaining. Of course! Nadal is the antichrist in this forum.
LuvTheGame
Banned
Agree and the actions of the players today totally EXPOSED the USTA for who they are - greedy a$$holes and liars:
Watched two officials being interviewed on TC and ESPN:
On Tuesday One said "Well you can't plan for rain!"
The Other said "Five of the Six men set to play today did NOT complain only Roddick did. The camera went back to Brad Gilbert who boldly said well I was on one of the courts and heard Murray complaining to the Umpire before the match!
Then not to jeopardize television advertising dollars they try to force play and even act as if match play will go on each rainy day!
Crazy - Embarrassing - Disgusting - Damn Foul and Foolish
If no tennis at all is played tomorrow(WTA or ATP) there will be a huge uprising from the players who are affected. Interesting that the lesser ranked players like Muller and Ferrer did not complain as Roddick, Murray and Nadal did, to the tournament director about the situation. Shows that rank rules in tennis, (and in life as well)
SoBad
G.O.A.T.
Nadal should be mad and bitter for life, but he is cheerful and happy, what a great sportsman and ultimate champion. Fededer piled up slams because of no competition, while Nadal and Djokovic now have to contend with the prime each other plus the unbelievable new talent like Golubev and Dolgopolov.
Raiden
Hall of Fame
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Raiden
Hall of Fame
That's not all.
The stingy, miserly USTA also leave players and officials stranded (they also penny-pinch the transport budget and don't pay toll for the Manhattan tunnels (thereby forcing shuttles to make detours and get stuck in traffic)
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Think of the ATP as being a union..and an ineffective one. They are the employees and the tournaments are the employers. To be most effective the pros should all go on strike. But playing is the only way that they make a living. So the idea of going on strike is unlikely. No play, no money, no play no ranking, no play, no endorsements. So they are at the mercy of their employers, the tournaments. And that's how pro tennis is. And always will be.
Mustard
Bionic Poster
They are not talking about boycotting tennis. They want the players' interests to be much more predominant at the US Open, and that means a bigger ATP influence. The ATP have run the vast majority of the tour since 1990, and that didn't come through the goodness of the bosses' hearts. The Australian Open and the French Open usually pay enough attention to the interests of the players to avoid too much fuss, while disputes between Wimbledon and the players tend to be more because of the "traditions" of the British aristocrats rather than the cynical greed of US corporations.
LuvTheGame
Banned
All the players have a right to be mad, when its apparent that tournament officials are not concerned about the obvious rainy playing conditions! Mary Jo and Brad Gilbert reported that before the women matches all the women gathered together and talked to officials voicing their concerns about injuries on a wet slippery surface as well!
Had not Murray, Roddick and Nadal spoken out collectively, the USTA would have been ping ponging the players out on the court throughout each rainy day, when it is obvious no end to such weather is in sight.
USTA and ESPN making us all look ridiculous!
Had not Murray, Roddick and Nadal spoken out collectively, the USTA would have been ping ponging the players out on the court throughout each rainy day, when it is obvious no end to such weather is in sight.
USTA and ESPN making us all look ridiculous!
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