Tennfan123
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Carlitos needs to escape the cult!
Anything was possible in the Srichaphan era.This is what I admire about Federer so much. Didn’t he win 3 slams in 2004 without a coach?
agree. i mean, on one hand i don't think it's changed the game all that much, but at the same time, i don't think there was anything wrong with how the game used to be played...i loved the idea of being out there on your own once the match starts.Yes, on court coaching is against the spirit of the game.
Anything was possible in the Srichaphan era.
So get rid of golf caddies? Coaching corners in boxing? Lots of individual sports use coaching....Not for individual sports, only for team sports.
Everybody got illegal coaching; it’s why they changed the rule!Nadal got illegal coaching.
No, no lo entiendes, si lo entendieras te gustaría lolThe worst problem of hearing Ferrero's constant talk is that I understand it all.
Since coaching came to stay, I want the WTA 2017-2021 coaching method, the coach goes to the court during the changeover and starts giving instructions to the player.
Thank God for the Srichapan era though. More variety and better players than the current Berrettini eraAnything was possible in the Srichaphan era.
Hello Rattie. When coaching was made legal, I was very disappointed for a number of reasons. One of them was that even if it went on by some, it should not be legitimised. But it was made legal. Carlos and his team are free to do as they choose. It is irrelevant to ask whether it should be allowed - it is allowed.Everybody got illegal coaching; it’s why they changed the rule!![]()
Based on the results of his last match Carlos would have been better off without the incessant coaching!Hello Rattie. When coaching was made legal, I was very disappointed for a number of reasons. One of them was that even if it went on by some, it should not be legitimised. But it was made legal. Carlos and his team are free to do as they choose. It is irrelevant to ask whether it should be allowed - it is allowed.
What beggars belief is the view that Carlos gains an 'unfair' advantage somehow. I thought I'd read most of the idiotic nuances of the vitriol and bias against Carlos, but obviously not. It seems that there is a bottomless cesspit of the attitudes of some, who wear it like a badge of honour. Pathetic.
Carlos has achieved what he has through his efforts and phenomenal skills. If the coaching were a yardstick, most of the current non-achievers would have achieved more. They haven't. He has.
Does this mean that people lose because of coaching? I don't think you are implying that to be the case. If you mean that his team bamboozled him - I'm not aware of the evidence that this is why he lost to Daniil. I accept the possibility that he could have been better off but don't accept your emphatic bolded comment..Based on the results of his last match Carlos would have been better off without the incessant coaching!
Very well put Eureka. I had no strong feelings either way about the change although I can see why they changed it and also see the compelling arguments as to why it should not be changed. I took issue with finger pointing at Rafa on this occasion, which is just petty cherry picking.Hello Rattie. When coaching was made legal, I was very disappointed for a number of reasons. One of them was that even if it went on by some, it should not be legitimised. But it was made legal. Carlos and his team are free to do as they choose. It is irrelevant to ask whether it should be allowed - it is allowed.
What beggars belief is the view that Carlos gains an 'unfair' advantage somehow. I thought I'd read most of the idiotic nuances of the vitriol and bias against Carlos, but obviously not. It seems that there is a bottomless cesspit of the attitudes of some, who wear it like a badge of honour. Pathetic.
Carlos has achieved what he has through his efforts and phenomenal skills. If the coaching were a yardstick, most of the current non-achievers would have achieved more. They haven't. He has.
I concur - coaching should not have been legitimised. That said, Carlos has shown how, when his game is on, he adapts and evolves in a match to change his strategy. He is an excellent problem solver..................Problem solving, anyone? That's part of the game, no?
I am just being a bit facetious here as I am against the level of on court coaching he is getting.Does this mean that people lose because of coaching? I don't think you are implying that to be the case. If you mean that his team bamboozled him - I'm not aware of the evidence that this is why he lost to Daniil. I accept the possibility that he could have been better off but don't accept your emphatic bolded comment..
I've watched the match - Carlos was outplayed for the most part, and as he had said himself (without the help of a coach - looool!) he had no answers to Daniiil. Words to that effect. It is far more likely in my view that Carlos was beaten by the better player on the day than that his team put the kybosh on him.
I got that - thanks though, for clarifying. I ackowledge your take on the matter, and can understand it.I am just being a bit facetious here as I am against the level of on court coaching he is getting.
He's won tournaments without Ferrero's presence.
Too bad you're going to have to live through Serbian chihuahas yapping about the same amount.This is the number one reason i am glad Alcaraz lost as i did not want the chihuahuas in his box yapping throughout the finals and taking up screen time
No. We pretend that this is new here, even if Djokovic, the leader in men's Tennis explicitly admitted that everyone did it in a hush-hush way.Everybody got illegal coaching; it’s why they changed the rule!![]()
I have to repeat in every clone of this thread that Carlos has won numerous events without Ferrero even being in the same county as he.Hello Rattie. When coaching was made legal, I was very disappointed for a number of reasons. One of them was that even if it went on by some, it should not be legitimised. But it was made legal. Carlos and his team are free to do as they choose. It is irrelevant to ask whether it should be allowed - it is allowed.
What beggars belief is the view that Carlos gains an 'unfair' advantage somehow. I thought I'd read most of the idiotic nuances of the vitriol and bias against Carlos, but obviously not. It seems that there is a bottomless cesspit of the attitudes of some, who wear it like a badge of honour. Pathetic.
Carlos has achieved what he has through his efforts and phenomenal skills. If the coaching were a yardstick, most of the current non-achievers would have achieved more. They haven't. He has.
This didn't happen at all. Federer called Reto Staubli during the rain delay who gave him advice and told him to change tactics which helped turn the match around for Fed.Yes, officially. Mirka outcoached Brad Gilbert during the third set rain delay in the 2004 Wimbledon final. At the time it was 1 set all against Roddick, and Roddick up 4-2 in the third set. Federer won in 4 sets.
I was rooting for Carlos, but I have to agree. JCF is more annoying and intrusive than Daddy Tsistipas (that's a high bar). It's also not a good look for Carlos to be so dependent on his box for strategy. Problem solving himself is something he definitely needs to work on. It's just not cool that the #1 or #2 player in the world relies on help for every single shot. I'm sure he'll learn, he's only 20.This is the number one reason i am glad Alcaraz lost as i did not want the chihuahuas in his box yapping throughout the finals and taking up screen time
NBA is a team sport, and the coach is part of the team.What would happen if on-court coaching in the NBA was banned?
the micro coaching was ridiculous.I don't have a huge issue with coaching, but it should be like in other sports - at specific times. Change over/time out/half time/etc. Being told where to serve each serve, coaching on a micro level point to point - is wrong. Even worse it detracts from the match/the sport/ and if the player wins - from their victory.
That being said unless, I don't think the umpires should be enforcing coaching/not coaching. But I would have love to see them sited for hinderance to play or start the "serve clock" much faster so that they couldn't have a conversation every single point. And maybe there should be a screen showing both teams boxes.
I mean I would have loved if Med was intercepting the calls and cheating on the returns - just because it was so annoying.
I want to like Alcaraz, but something about him when he is not in the point - the non-play activities- pushes me away