Should poly strings be banned?
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Shroud
Talk Tennis Guru
Let me guess, double dose and no taxes? What about Ramen strings? Would you allow that too??If Meldonium alters my reality, I am all for it. Hit me up with a double dose.
Rabbit
G.O.A.T.
I disagree and agree. Polys should be banned, if only at the pro level. Poly does provide professional tennis players an edge, and I think one that changes the nature of the game. The story is now (in)famous about Kuerten's run at the French. Here is the link:
http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2017...stavo-kuerten-roland-garros-atp-tennis/65921/
Tennis.com article above said:
I agree in that the most important factor is technique. But when you look at the overall body of players and the technique they use now, it is custom built around polyester. Ergo, it's changed the nature of the game and tennis probably forever. This leads to exactly what happened to racket ball when they let them use 90+ square inch rackets. Yeah, they hit the ball unbelievably, so well that you can't even see it. And if you can't see the ball, what's the point in playing or if you're a fan, watching? Tennis has built a better mousetrap, but nobody's interested in buying it. The stands are empty for most rounds of most tournaments and participation at the grass roots level is down. Coincidence?
jmc3367
Rookie
I kinda agree with this, I felt like I could have played serve and volley and won a few points as far back as Nadal was standing. If nothing else I could have gotten him with a double bounce....lol
jmc3367
Rookie
So my solution would be to decide what type of string would provide the best show for the fans. Lets say it's a multi. So any manufacturer that wanted their string used at the ATP level would have to submit it to the ATP for approval. This way all the manufacturers that wanted to could compete at the ATP level but rec players could still buy whatever they want. Think about racing, NASCAR requires each part on the car to be approved, however most of the racing parts produced do not go on NASCAR cars, they are on local racers car. I believe this would allow string Manufacturers to develop and sell strings and make the pro level tennis much more fan friendly. Support divisions could decide their own rules.
CopolyX
Hall of Fame
No problem and good luck with that....
But..
You have the the perfect President in office to assist you on that quest.
Optional: there also has been yack about a bigger ball, that is some poly equalizer .
Either way, if you are passionate about it..move forward and do...and best of luck...
I have not heard any pros asking for poly strings to be banned. Poly does not help you with spin if you have poor technique, ask any beginner or old school player.
"Classic serve volleyers like McEnroe and Edberg are so rare nowadays. Time to make it a fair contest between baseliners and volleyers."
The courts have been slowed down making serve and volley very difficult, it's not just strings. Wimbeldon was a snooze fest with super fast courts but I think they have slowed the grass too much.
"Classic serve volleyers like McEnroe and Edberg are so rare nowadays. Time to make it a fair contest between baseliners and volleyers."
The courts have been slowed down making serve and volley very difficult, it's not just strings. Wimbeldon was a snooze fest with super fast courts but I think they have slowed the grass too much.
Rabbit
G.O.A.T.
Certainly no need to get political.
I'm against anything that would change the nature of the game, a bigger ball clearly fits that bill. No thanks.
Fortunately, I'm not a windmill chaser. The powers-that-be in tennis proved their only concern was the $ long ago.
CopolyX
Hall of Fame
All I am saying is that it will take politics "if you want or agree that coploys/polys should be banned".
ITF is where you want to start...if that is your goal...
The bigger ball idea was from those interested in slowing down the game, not me....no thanks need..
I believe is comes from a group that believe that the synthetic string has evolved to much...yes that could be also a poly string banner just like you..
Windmill chasing, come on that is easy. The bases are static, you will chase them quick!
Although I think windmills should be banned...The spin to fast from the wind. seems wrong and unfair....
Sorry, had to on that one...
All is fun, yep this a great sport.
Only together can we make it better.
Also in the scheme of things, percentage wise, strings really are a small percent of the tennis industry (~5.94 billion).
http://www.tennisindustry.org/cms/i...-3-says-new-tia-state-of-the-industry-report/
http://www.tennisindustry.org/cms/index.cfm/research/industry-dashboard/
Here is what I have for 2014 /15 to give you an ideas of money going to string sales(note this is only units not $ you may think)..
https://www.tennisindustry.org/PDFs/research/2015-SOI-SHORT-VERSION.pdf
http://www.tennisindustry.org/cms/i...pation-for-2015-stable-equipment-sales-mixed/
Total Tennis Economy (2014)
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$5.73 Billion
Total Participation
................................................
17.9 Million
Youth Tennis Participation
Ages 6-12
................................................................
2.14 Million
Ages 13-17
..............................................................
2.23 Million
Core Tennis Players (10+ times a year)
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9.91 Million
Cardio Tennis
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1.62 Million
Manufacturer Year-End Wholesale Shipments (units)
Tennis Racquets
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2.96 Million
Tennis Balls
.............................................................
124 Million
Red, Orange, Green Balls
....................................
5.54 Million
Tennis Strings
........................................................
3.16 Million
Rabbit
G.O.A.T.
@CopolyX , maybe my "chasing windmills" comment didn't register. There is no way a fan is going to have any sway over the ITF or the ATP or the WTA. There simply is no starting point. It was a question, should polys be banned.....I say yes. The stats you cite above is the very reason poly will never be banned, or rackets regulated; $. And $'s is all the ITF or WTA or ATP listen to.
CopolyX
Hall of Fame
Also the nature of the game also started to change when wooden frames went away...naturally.
once non-wooden frames made and entrance, adding in the advancement in sync strings...the game changed...faster...
Not even getting into the surfaces, the athletics, topspin...keds sneakers(lol)...
The theory on that larger dumb ass ball was to bring the back to it older nature. The fatter ball would slow the game down. Technically a poly string equalizer.
Again, that is what I read and heard. Will it happen, certainly down think so. Polys banned, I doubt it.
A higher percentage of Pros are now hybridizing.
They have the form and livelier arms. What is catching up to them, is recovery time / mending the body with a demanding schedule. This will interesting to monitor.
In my world, I have been playing and stringing for a very long time.
I have been on a never ending campaign of helping players understand what their proper equipment needs are and why for the level (beginner, intermediate, advanced, tournament).
Right sizing your game
I see way many that:
Do not take lessons
Bad form ( all arms)
No practice or do not know how to practice
Have the wrong frame for their game
Should not be using poly
Too young for the above
No physical prep - nothing - they think tennis is there exercise..
Overplaying / no mending
So in a nutshell, there is again a hell of a lot we can do other than "ban polys".
ITF,ATP, WWF....lol..sure..they may not...but others..you know and can help....why not..
Help, suggest, educate, guide, inspire, share, motivate, lead by example, show them your passion / enjoy & have fun!
I am far from a poly pusher.
Cheers man..
once non-wooden frames made and entrance, adding in the advancement in sync strings...the game changed...faster...
Not even getting into the surfaces, the athletics, topspin...keds sneakers(lol)...
The theory on that larger dumb ass ball was to bring the back to it older nature. The fatter ball would slow the game down. Technically a poly string equalizer.
Again, that is what I read and heard. Will it happen, certainly down think so. Polys banned, I doubt it.
A higher percentage of Pros are now hybridizing.
They have the form and livelier arms. What is catching up to them, is recovery time / mending the body with a demanding schedule. This will interesting to monitor.
In my world, I have been playing and stringing for a very long time.
I have been on a never ending campaign of helping players understand what their proper equipment needs are and why for the level (beginner, intermediate, advanced, tournament).
Right sizing your game
I see way many that:
Do not take lessons
Bad form ( all arms)
No practice or do not know how to practice
Have the wrong frame for their game
Should not be using poly
Too young for the above
No physical prep - nothing - they think tennis is there exercise..
Overplaying / no mending
So in a nutshell, there is again a hell of a lot we can do other than "ban polys".
ITF,ATP, WWF....lol..sure..they may not...but others..you know and can help....why not..
Help, suggest, educate, guide, inspire, share, motivate, lead by example, show them your passion / enjoy & have fun!
I am far from a poly pusher.
Cheers man..
Hayward Butler
Rookie
My problem with poly doesn't have as much to do with game style but with the large number of injuries that have followed the trend. Wrist, shoulder and elbow injuries are more common today with club, college and professional
players. Just look at all of the taped shoulders, and wrist injuries the pros are suffering. Club players tend to have more elbow and shoulder problems. With the combination of stiff frames and poly you are just going to get injuries. Way too many juniors are suffering today from the new poly generation. I see too many players keeping poly in their frames after the strings have gone dead. Most club players can't get as much out of polys as they would like because their technique just isn't at that level. I don't see polys being banned but I do hope that it will be taken out of the junior game at least. I would also like to see manufacturers put more emphasis on developing spin friendly multis.
Give them some nice colours, for us who want them to match the frames and you will grab the interest of many juniors and club players alike. Performance will always come first but let's use common sense and keep the game healthy. We don't want to lose anyone from our wonderful game. Play with arm friendly equipment and enjoy tennis for a lifetime. If someone feels that they have to use poly then hybrid it or replace it often.
players. Just look at all of the taped shoulders, and wrist injuries the pros are suffering. Club players tend to have more elbow and shoulder problems. With the combination of stiff frames and poly you are just going to get injuries. Way too many juniors are suffering today from the new poly generation. I see too many players keeping poly in their frames after the strings have gone dead. Most club players can't get as much out of polys as they would like because their technique just isn't at that level. I don't see polys being banned but I do hope that it will be taken out of the junior game at least. I would also like to see manufacturers put more emphasis on developing spin friendly multis.
Give them some nice colours, for us who want them to match the frames and you will grab the interest of many juniors and club players alike. Performance will always come first but let's use common sense and keep the game healthy. We don't want to lose anyone from our wonderful game. Play with arm friendly equipment and enjoy tennis for a lifetime. If someone feels that they have to use poly then hybrid it or replace it often.
Not going to happen.
Or the way our society is it just might. Then there will be the argument on ESPN that if poly wasn't used could Federer or Nadal have won all those titles. Then there will be the argument whether or not they should be in the Hall of Fame.
Players generating allot more racquet head speed with modern technique and lighter/stiffer racquets generate allot more spin regardless of the string they play with. Also causes allot more injuries playing this way.
Once the poly is outlawed, what would they do then? Make modern technique and lighter racquets illegal because they generate too much spin?
Doesn't make any sense to make poly illegal at any level. Educating recreational players on the necessity of lower tension with poly and choosing lower stiffness rated racquets would help in injury prevention.
Or the way our society is it just might. Then there will be the argument on ESPN that if poly wasn't used could Federer or Nadal have won all those titles. Then there will be the argument whether or not they should be in the Hall of Fame.
Players generating allot more racquet head speed with modern technique and lighter/stiffer racquets generate allot more spin regardless of the string they play with. Also causes allot more injuries playing this way.
Once the poly is outlawed, what would they do then? Make modern technique and lighter racquets illegal because they generate too much spin?
Doesn't make any sense to make poly illegal at any level. Educating recreational players on the necessity of lower tension with poly and choosing lower stiffness rated racquets would help in injury prevention.
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ByeByePoly
G.O.A.T.
They are breaking brains in the NFL ... no chance broken elbows are going to influence big $. About the only thing that would change anything is parents. Parents not allowing their kids to play football or play tennis with poly strings.
stingstang
Professional
Banning string types really isn't that wacky, if anything tennis is an exception in sport by allowing equipment tech to change so fast. It would have to be phased in from junior level.
I bet tennis will start to lose a lot of popularity when fed & nadal retire, then we will start to see discussions about rule changes - 20 sec clocks, serve net rule, racket tech etc etc.
In a perfect world, every style of play has an equal chance of winning.
I bet tennis will start to lose a lot of popularity when fed & nadal retire, then we will start to see discussions about rule changes - 20 sec clocks, serve net rule, racket tech etc etc.
In a perfect world, every style of play has an equal chance of winning.
ByeByePoly
G.O.A.T.
I think the screaching should be banned. I watched a girls college match a couple of weekends ago, and literally didn't want sit through it. One girl was basically a hindrance for the other 2 matches next to her, not to mention the poor girl she was playing. How did tennis ever allow this. Picture a baseball pitcher screaching at a batter as he released the pitch.
danbrenner
Legend
Why in God’s name would you want to tone down or tame the sport.
Instead of dumbing it down just rise to the challenge yourself.
sbaniak
Rookie
In my very uneducated opinion... I think it's just evolution and there's always periods of climb and plateau. I have liked seeing the crazy angles and long grueling points of the current "modern" poly-influenced game. And I also love it when guys like Zverev & yes, Fed find a way to bring some S&V into it. Any variety is nice to see. All S&V can get pretty boring, as can all baseline bashing. I personally am just excited to see where things can go next. I do think that allowing if not enforcing more surface variation could be cool to get players to adapt tournament to tournament especially in the hardcourt season... but I think the sport will always find it's own way.
Irvin
Talk Tennis Guru
Next I guess you will suggest people that run too fast should wear heavier shoes, and people that jump too high should wear back packs.
EDIT: I do not play with or like poly strings at all but if anyone else wants them why not?
Zoolander
Hall of Fame
Damn straight poly strings should be banned at the pro level. Pros simply dont need them.
Look at swimming. Pro swimmers didnt need those ridiculous lycra full body suits that meant every man and his dog was breaking world records. At least the governing body (finally) had the guts to ban them, but not before pro swimming became a joke.
In comparison golf is still a joke, they have never had the guts to ban graphite shafts and oversized alloy heads yet...... instead they try to make their courses longer to accommodate them, which is just plain stupid.
Thats where tennis is at now. Super slippery-coated hexagonal shaped copolyester ultra-control tennis strings that give crazy spin??! Ridiculous, and pros dont need them. Let rec players have them, sure.
And think about the benefits. Half the reason we have super powerful and stiff racquets is because poly strings make them playable. Make them use gut and those racquets would be almost uncontrollable, even for pros. Soon we would see more manufacturers making softer, less powerful racquets again. Imagine!
Look at swimming. Pro swimmers didnt need those ridiculous lycra full body suits that meant every man and his dog was breaking world records. At least the governing body (finally) had the guts to ban them, but not before pro swimming became a joke.
In comparison golf is still a joke, they have never had the guts to ban graphite shafts and oversized alloy heads yet...... instead they try to make their courses longer to accommodate them, which is just plain stupid.
Thats where tennis is at now. Super slippery-coated hexagonal shaped copolyester ultra-control tennis strings that give crazy spin??! Ridiculous, and pros dont need them. Let rec players have them, sure.
And think about the benefits. Half the reason we have super powerful and stiff racquets is because poly strings make them playable. Make them use gut and those racquets would be almost uncontrollable, even for pros. Soon we would see more manufacturers making softer, less powerful racquets again. Imagine!
WYK
Legend
http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2017...-garros-atp-tennis/65921/?curator=SportsREDEF
Guga once said he was surprised they weren't banned right away.
I know in my own game, if I use a heavy racket and keep the poly at low tension, I can smack the hell out of that ball, with most of the energy going in to rotation instead of rocketing it over the fence. Never could do such a thing before.
Guga once said he was surprised they weren't banned right away.
I know in my own game, if I use a heavy racket and keep the poly at low tension, I can smack the hell out of that ball, with most of the energy going in to rotation instead of rocketing it over the fence. Never could do such a thing before.
Powderwombat
Semi-Pro
This. Next thing the snowflakes will be calling for everyone to go back to the awful wooden rackets. Let's just de-evolve the sport......
toby55555
Hall of Fame
I wonder what it would cost for the govt to buy back all the legally held guns that were bought in good faith? 300m x average price $500 (?) = $150,000,000,000, and thats just for starters, all the paraphernalia associated with ownership would become redundant.Like gun control in the US, the horse left the barn on this issue long, long ago.
There's no going back now.
bigserving
Hall of Fame
it is too late to ban Polys. It would be great if the tennis administrators would stay ahead of the game and make decisions about rules and technology that makes the game more entertaining for the casual viewer. Casual viewers are just not going to sit and watch two players hit the ball back and forth in the same manner for three hours. The optimal performance characteristics of Poly strings dictate that style of play.
Think about the amount of action, personalities, and strategy that is found in a two-hour NBA game, or a three-hour NFL game. There is much more entertainment there for the buck.
Think about the amount of action, personalities, and strategy that is found in a two-hour NBA game, or a three-hour NFL game. There is much more entertainment there for the buck.
yea, cat is out of the bag now. we went from 2 distinct type of players - those that win on fast courts and those that win on clay to a homogenized baseliner now. I think this is why Federer is so popular because he has more variety than the others. tennis might have been better off banning poly and restricting head size but too much $ invested now to change. I think atp, itf, wta should try to get courts and balls a bit faster to level the playing field. other than 1990 serve shoot outs on grass, the game had more variety in the 1980s and 1990s. would be cool if they could sped up clay too.
I think AO and Shanghai have best court speeds. Someone is going to say I am saying this because I am a Federer fan but I think these courts allow for contrasting styles to be competitive. There are other players that can benefit from courts at this speed too - Zverev brothers, Shapavolov, ... But, I think watching the style of tennis these courts create is the best viewing. You get to see a bit of S&V, attacking the net, sliced backhands. If you get an attacker against a baseliner, it is good entertainment.
ShahofTennis
Hall of Fame
Poly is good for tennis. It prolongs rallies and encourages the practice of tactical tennis. People say serve and volley tennis was then and baseline tennis is now, but any 3.5 whose worth his salt would know that the modern poly game is ripe with opportunities to serve and volley. Of course there are hacks on these boards that still cant volley despite poly offering 3 invaluable playing characteristics for S&V tennis. Abundant net clearance, low powered string bed, and great directional control.
Muppet
Legend
I used to love watching Lendl play great on clay and hard courts only to struggle at Wimbledon. It was also very entertaining to see McEnroe and Edberg on clay. And Sampras at the FO, what a heart breaker. Watching the players struggle when they're out of their element was a big part of the fun. Homogenizing the courts, balls, racquets, and technique (and brainwashing the players from a young age on how to be competitive) has taken a lot of personality out of the game. Sure Fed can play well at the FO, but what if the clay played slower? Wouldn't that give Rafa and clay specialists the advantage? I wouldn't mind seeing Fed struggle a little more every now and then. That would be far more entertaining than what we have now. What is the sport looking for now, all-round tennis gods who play well on similar surfaces?
To answer the question:
Should bringing a gun to a knife fight be banned? Is it still a knife fight? The same sport?
To answer the question:
Should bringing a gun to a knife fight be banned? Is it still a knife fight? The same sport?
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babar
Professional
I can speak from experience here. My son plays soccer and some of the parents tell their kids never to head the ball for fear of injury. I personally don't mind heading a soccer ball as long as it is taught properly and executed properly after a certain age. Our coach tells the kids to never head a ball that is coming down from a high trajectory. Only if the ball has been lollipopped up in the air, which happens a lot in youth soccer.
I know MANY parents, here in Texas no less, that don't allow their kids to play football b/c of the risk of head trauma. I also know many parents who don't allow their kids to play lacrosse b/c of the risk of injury. Many of the local football leagues have trouble filling teams in divisions b/c of lack of participation.
So, if tennis were to get a reputation for being a sport that leads to a greater risk of injury, then it would affect the bottom line and companies would change their stripes. I agree with USPTARF97 that low tensions with poly are a good way to go. I've used many frames with poly tensions in the low to mid 40s with great success. I found that lighter frames with that tension were not that great, but heavier frames were just fine. Wilson 6.1 at 45lbs with a co-poly feels great, but a Head Instinct with that same set-up feels like a hollow cannon.
ByeByePoly
G.O.A.T.
lol ... football is a religion in Texas.
I think what your elbow can handle probably changes post TE. The best thing is to not get it.
SinjinCooper
Hall of Fame
They should be and will be banned. The sport is dying too quick a death because it doesn't interest anybody any longer. The "tennis economy" is a joke. You develop a sports economy by making it TV friendly, not be giving a **** what players want. Long, dull rallies with no strategy beyond, "hit crosscourt one time more than the other guy," have turned tennis from the most popular participant sport in the world to golf's unwanted mutant younger cousin in two decade's time.
They need to speed up matches, re-introduce variety, and develop young talent. When (not if) they axe poly, it'll be a good first step toward accomplishing those goals.
They need to speed up matches, re-introduce variety, and develop young talent. When (not if) they axe poly, it'll be a good first step toward accomplishing those goals.
WarrenMP
Professional
Polys had an effect on the game, but I think the biggest is the modern swing. Spin comes from the extreme grips players are bringing to the pro level. Players swing style changed from the serve and volley era. Plus the courts are much slower. If you want to change the game now, you have to tinker with the court and ball.
If we have varieties of surfaces like 70s-90s,
we will not have players who wins ~20 slams. It will be much more difficult I mean.
Shroud
Talk Tennis Guru
Imho what you mention makes Borgs French/wimbledon dominance pretty special as the surfaces were very different.
Imho the old tournaments were much more even and going in lots of people had a shot. These days there are 2nd tiers that just dont have a shot like Monfils and ferrer, etc. but i am probably wrong somehow. At least there were contrasting styles.
Perhaps the lack of net play has something to do with poly? Any net rushers play full poly??
esgee48
G.O.A.T.
There are restrictions on how big the frame (H, L, W) can be. I would rather specify the max spacing of the mains and crosses that are allowable base on mass and face size (and SW?) of the frame, e.g. less than 98, less than 102, less than 110, less than 140. If you go light, spacing would be smaller than if you go heavy. Smaller frame can have smaller min spacing while large frame require more spacing. You can hit with spin and pace with smaller frames, but harder to do with larger frames. Another option would be to restrict the stiffness of the string between 100 and perhaps 210 or 230. Kevlar would be banned for pros, but OK for non-pros.
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Of course, borg's record is special.
Also 70s-90s we had hard courts that are very different.
I'm not sure how they would have played in 70s-90s or pre open era if they had modern polys. I mean some of passing shots just did not exist without polys.
Geez Shah, your perception of tennis reality and my perception of reality are far apart. I know of very few 3.5 players who S&V well - certainly 90% are weak at S&V or flatly never use it. I also think poly at the pro level as radically changed the game. The shift away from S&V and even away from frequently attacking the net is obvious to anyone who watch pro tennis before year 2000. I do agree that some poly string beds do volley well - specifically a gut/poly or multi/poly string bed does volley very well. I think we have homogenized tennis too much with poly strings and slower court speeds. I do think this can be remedied at the pro level by making more hard courts play faster. I have no problem with the current speed of Wimbledon even though it is slower and the bounce is higher. I saw a graphic on TV that compare a 120mph serve at Wimbledon in 2003 vs 2008. It bounced 8" higher and was 18" slower in going baseline to baseline in 2008. Both of those are very big changes. 18" slower gives the returner a split second longer and the higher bounce makes it a bit easier to be aggressive on the return. But, Wimbledon still rewards shot making, volleying, slices and good serving so I think it is an improvement all in all. USO has gotten too slow and 4 or so years ago the Aussie Open was almost like a clay court. I would like to see Roland Garros sped up even more as too much baseline grinding is boring. I think the faster tournaments - Wimbledon, Shanghai, Cincy, ... offer the best TV entertainment as it gives attacking players a better shot.
I actually think poly strings are fine as long as the courts are similar to Shanghai, Cincy or similar. Old Aussie Open was way too slow - remember the 6 hour grind fest that Djokovic and Nadal played a few years ago at Aussie open. Yes, it had great points but it also had lots of hit CC until someone makes an error points.
ron schaap
Hall of Fame
That
Wimbledon in the old days was only about serve volley. Very boring. Mostly about serving and sometimes the receiver got his racket behind the ball for an easy put away for the server.
With women tennis it nearly always was about very long and boring baseline ball exchanges. No matter what surface.
So now tennisplayers(m/w) are more fit and have better technique, resulting in much more exciting points. Nothing to do with poly strings. Fed and Djoko, as are the Williams sisters, are using hybrids with gut anyway.
I think the discussion with banning of equipment started with an envy Navratilova who just wanted the Americans dominating the game again.
Well, sorry but that wont happen today and in the near future.
You see a dominance of East-European tennis players. I dont know why but they sure dont use secret poly strings that nobody else cant buy.
Its no highttech game, tennis. I think talent, smart training and possible smart tactics. Read the book by Brat Gilbert, Winning ugly eg.
Some speculate that the reason is that in Europe tennis juniors grow up playing on clay(gravel) courts, which is more beneficial for their development than would playing on hard courts.
That is a huge mistake.
Wimbledon in the old days was only about serve volley. Very boring. Mostly about serving and sometimes the receiver got his racket behind the ball for an easy put away for the server.
With women tennis it nearly always was about very long and boring baseline ball exchanges. No matter what surface.
So now tennisplayers(m/w) are more fit and have better technique, resulting in much more exciting points. Nothing to do with poly strings. Fed and Djoko, as are the Williams sisters, are using hybrids with gut anyway.
I think the discussion with banning of equipment started with an envy Navratilova who just wanted the Americans dominating the game again.
Well, sorry but that wont happen today and in the near future.
You see a dominance of East-European tennis players. I dont know why but they sure dont use secret poly strings that nobody else cant buy.
Its no highttech game, tennis. I think talent, smart training and possible smart tactics. Read the book by Brat Gilbert, Winning ugly eg.
Some speculate that the reason is that in Europe tennis juniors grow up playing on clay(gravel) courts, which is more beneficial for their development than would playing on hard courts.
ShahofTennis
Hall of Fame
'm just a high tension, cheap poly, minimal static and swing weight, follow my shots forward, jumping one-handed backhand, contrarian kind of guy. Whats so wrong about that?
Moveforwardalways
Hall of Fame
The game has become more homogeneous because of the changes in court speed, not because of poly strings. Eliminate poly and you are still playing on a really slow court that makes S&V really difficult. Even before poly, S&V on a slow court was suboptimal at best.
Simon_the_furry
Hall of Fame
You know what I want?
I want to re-legalize spaghetti string.
I think the unpredictable bounce and crazy spin of the spaghetti pattern would keep the baseliners on their toes.
I want to re-legalize spaghetti string.
I think the unpredictable bounce and crazy spin of the spaghetti pattern would keep the baseliners on their toes.
ShahofTennis
Hall of Fame
We should ban the western forehand all together. Fine players $15,000 for every cm they deviate from eastern grip, and donate the money to OP for tennis lessons, and his mental hospital bills.
ron schaap
Hall of Fame
OK. To accomodate folks who want to restrict tennis equipment the following proposal:
Every player is allowed to use a maximum of 3 rackets during a match, (5 for men at grandslams) and no restringings during a match.
The benefit is to stop the spillings of resources and make the game more level playing for poor lower level pros who cant effort all those restringings.
The benefits for all of us will be that the focus of the industry will become more on durable tennis strings than it is now.
My experience with gut e.g. is that it is the less durable and most expensive string i ever used. So these kind of strings will automatically be fased out.
Now how about it?
Rabbit
G.O.A.T.
do what now?
ron schaap
Hall of Fame
So now discuss the idea of pros using only a limit number rackets with whatever string they choose. Is a much interesting discussing than banning of poly strings that most of us and the pros as well use.
In the golf sport one is also limited to the number of clubs one uses.
Some years ago there was the banning of a type of clubs in golf that every one at that time. A committee found that these clubs brought an advantage to the user.
In reaction to this banning of these wedges with special grooves, clever golf r&d invented wedges that were even better than the banned. Anyhow the ordinary golfer who never benefitted from the special groove wedges had to buy new expensive wedges because he was forbidden to use the old wedges too.
So dont ban the strings, but ban the limitless amount of rackets and oncourt restringing which is unfair.
In the golf sport one is also limited to the number of clubs one uses.
Some years ago there was the banning of a type of clubs in golf that every one at that time. A committee found that these clubs brought an advantage to the user.
In reaction to this banning of these wedges with special grooves, clever golf r&d invented wedges that were even better than the banned. Anyhow the ordinary golfer who never benefitted from the special groove wedges had to buy new expensive wedges because he was forbidden to use the old wedges too.
So dont ban the strings, but ban the limitless amount of rackets and oncourt restringing which is unfair.
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