Discussion in 'Stringing Techniques / Stringing Machines' started by verbouge, Jul 14, 2010.
Let's keep this simple and straightforward!
If strings had it's own fourm I would not have to wade through all the kids crying about poly, co-poly, what the difference or what poly they are going to try next or what happend to their elbow or why their strings are dead or what tension they should try first or where they should put the poly or what to cross it with or whine, whine, whine over and over again. I think TW should put an age limit on this forum you should be at least 8 to get in it.
So are you saying "yes"?
i said no... but thinking about it...maybe separate it all out. i like to experiment with stuff so i like a lot of people to see it and respond and i think sometimes people just stick to one section too much. so if it did get separated out i think i would lose a good amount of perspectives of subjects.
i haven't really found any trouble finding threads/subjects. the search button is my friend
I do not think combine it with the stringing machines forum would be a good idea, I like the Stringing Machine forum as it is, it is one of the few that remains - for the most part - untouched by trolls and kids and most of the time you can have a serious discussion or conversation. In any case, if you want to talk about stringing here just do it I do not see the point on changing the name or going to major changes. Also didn't they already said no? Isn't this like your fourth thread about this?
Keep them as separate forums.
If anything, it makes it easy for the technical support people to find threads where people can ask specific questions.......i.e. Bret at Gamma and Mark at Alpha.
I've gotten a lot of help from these guys specific to my machines. Even though it gets less traffic, issues specific to stringing machines (which can get quite technical) can be directly addressed.
"Strings and Stringing" should just be renamed "Strings" like the other forum, "Racquets" and keep "Stringing Machines" as is.
I voted yes that is correct.
Yes, they already said "no", but if you look at the posts after that, at least one heavy hitter, DireDesire, agrees with my point. And so do many others. And let me ask you this, jmverdugo: do you always quit and stop seeking what you want after the first "no"? That would be like losing the first set and then giving up altogether because you think the match is lost. I think I have a valid point, why not attack it from different angles and persist in an attempt to accomplish something that may well be of benefit to many others?
And yes, this is thread number four. But these are not frivolous threads, and people are still weighing in on this matter in a very thoughtful way. I will give up if lots of people tell me to knock it off, but that is not what's happening. Most people are respectful, even if they don't agree with the premise.
Oops. I feel stupid. I misunderstood the suggested "change"......
It would be simple if it was "no" or "yes". Adding "sort of" makes it fuzzy. All of us that want it changed get split into two groups and our vote looks diluted.
But please do something to get "Stringing" out of the "Strings" forum.
Thanks, Verbouge, for your efforts to accomplish this.
Ok, I understand your point, as Berta would say :
... and I can see that you may have a point but there is a fine line between fighting a good fight and being simply annoying - I am not saying this is your case - anyway I hope you get a final answer about this, honestly I have no problem with how things are right now but if things change your way so be it... and beleive me I wasn't trying to be disrepecful, I am sorry if you felt that way. :neutral:
I voted to break off Stringing from Strings and combine it with Stringing Machines but your point is very well taken. If there is any real chances that the Stringing Machines forum would devolve into anything close to the cesspool that is the Strings and Stringing forum, I would change my vote to create 3 different forums. At its worst Strings and Stringing can get as bad as the General Pro Player Discussion forum.
You just have to add up the last two options to see that the general sentiment is for change. I agree, the first priority should be to get Stringing out of Strings. Of lesser importance to me is where to put it.
I also agree that Verbouge is due thanks for jumpstarting this change process. It is long overdue.
I think be an great improvement to seperate them out having 3 forums, Stringing
Like what been said, save going through all of the posts about which string to use. And stop the good information being lost.
Wholeheartedly agree. Stringing must be removed from Strings and Stringing. I've long simmered over the situation of having to troll through truck loads of meaningless threads and posts when I'm looking for something pertaining to stringing topics, and I'm glad Dave had enough get up and go to do something positive about it. Kudos to you Dave.
Occasionally, I venture over to the GSS forums to discuss stringing issues where stringers such as Albert Lee, Richard Parnell et al join in the discussions and give some wonderfully illuminating perspectives on all things relating to stringing. But I like TT and buy plenty of gear from TW so I feel a type of loyalty to this community, so yes, this is where I spend most of my online tennis time!! And if we can make it work a little more efficiently, why not?
As of this writing, the tally is 29 to 8 in favor of making this change. A couple of small minded people got nasty in the "TW Comments/Questions" thread I started a couple of weeks ago. It kind of becomes weird when people make it personal.
What I would like to see from the "29'ers" is for you to join in the discussion with the TW staff over in that forum. I think one person trying to make a point, especially after being rejected the first time, can sound obnoxious and self-absorbed. But a chorus of people is the customer base asking for their preferred supplier to be responsive and sensitive to them.
TWTT has thousands and thousands of people on it. Even though stringers make up a relatively small fraction of that number, my guess is that we are some of the most fiercely loyal, dedicated, and articulate people of the bunch. That, and we buy lots of stuff, over and over again. That should pull some weight with the TWTT moderators. If it does not, and so far it HAS not, I, for one, will be surprised and disappointed.
So join in over there, and make your voices heard!
Currently 80% are for a change and 20% not ( 32 : 8 ) . The people have spoken!
That's a 75% majority!
Have you guys (gals?) been to TW Questions/Comments yet with your opinion?
Please don't be shy. Weigh in so the powers that be can hear your voices, too.
Thanks for listening. Thank you very much.
I see you got your wish, verbouge.
We'll see how well it takes.
Even though they separated the "Classic Racquet" forum from the "Racquet" forum, old racquet talk still comes up in the main forum.....
They think it's all over...
it is now!
Since we are in the changing mode, how about adding a new forum to discuss any grieve or problem we may have, it could from a simple personal problem to a social issue, it could even include some political discussions, maybe we could call it "Rant & Raves"? ... just a sugestion
Didn't we just have "Rant & Raves" removed recently because it was out of control ?
I think our prayers have been answered. "String and Stringing" is now just "Strings". "Stringing Machines" is now "Stringing Techniques/Stringing Machines".
yep, now we have to come up with some highbrow intellectual stringing discussion to make all our whinging worthwhile!!!
Indeed, guys and dolls! Our long national nightmare is over! Oh wait, that was something else..... Whatever the case, there actually has been some highbrow super duper intellectual discussion, but that was mere prologue. Those of us who are nerdy enough to talk about the minutiae of stringing machines, are ever the more nerdy to talk about the minutiae of stringing techniques. Heaven for a few, Ambien for most.
Thanks for joining in and making it happen!
Now come to think of it, I kinda liked it the old way.............
Dude, like, um, what is the softest poly to hybrid with weedeater line? My arm's totally killing me.
And, um, like, will a Wise Tension Head fit on my work bench?
Do you think Federer or Nadal would win on Dancing With the Stars? I would TOTALLY watch that!
Nicely done verbouge.
wow. great job guys.
Separate them, it'll be a lot more efficient.
Mods.... please lock or delete....
Well done Dave, long overdue.
Sweet. I'm glad this worked out, and that (it seems) everyone is happy. This is actually one of the reasons I enjoy being part of the TW community so much, people are reasonable, and we have admins that are willing to listen to the community. Props to Spencer and the TW Staff, as well!
I think that this is a very good solution, and it already proved worth it because some good discussions were entered already.
Thanks TW staff for listening and Dave for bringing it up.
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