Sidespin on 1HBH slice

Cindysphinx

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I am learning a 1HBH slice, and I was hitting on the wall today. Funny thing is that a lot of the balls had sidespin. When I generate unintentional sidespin on my FH topspin groundstroke, this is due to dropping the racket head.

It's not a bad shot, as the sidespin would give a lot of people fits. But I'd like to hit a pure underspin shot without the sidespin so that I know I am doing things correctly.

What causes sidespin on a 1HBH slice?
 
I'm not one of those experts, but until one comes along, I will guess that you're getting sidespin because your stance is open, not allowing you to follow through in the direction of the shot.
 
I'm not one of those experts, but until one comes along, I will guess that you're getting sidespin because your stance is open, not allowing you to follow through in the direction of the shot.

Oooh, that may be it. I didn't think of that. That would give you a snatching kind of stroke, which might cause sidespin.

I'll play around with it again tomorrow and I'll make sure to really step into the shot and see if that is the answer.
 
Think of going through the ball rather than chopping it. That's what has helped me.
 
Your contact point is also very important. If you are contacting the ball close too your body and/or too low, you'll tend to side swipe the ball and put extra amounts of sidespin on it.
 
you are getting sidespin because you are making contact on the inside of the ball -- as in the part of the ball closest to your body.

think about making contact with the ball on the outside edge of the ball if you want a more traditional slice without the sidespin so to speak.

and the sidespin part of the shot isn't necessarily a bad thing - since you can slice it down the line and it will trail away from your opponent. also useful for volleys since it's essentially the same motion.
 
^ Yes, sidespin usually occurs from hitting the inside of the ball when executing the BH slice. You might also get a little bit of spiral spin as well. Click on the following graphic for a Tennis mag article on the subject:

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Note that hitting on the outside of the ball (picture on the left) will usually result in much less side spin. It may also impart a little bit of spiral spin which can have a stabilizing influence on the trajectory of the ball. However, a heavy dose of spiral spin can be imparted if you "carve a smile" on the underside of the ball. This will cause the ball to bounce off to the right -- sometimes enough to throw off you opponent.

While a 1-handed BH can sometimes be executed with an open stance, it is common to use either a square stance or a closed stance. While a sginificantly closed stance should be avoided, if possible, on FHs and 2-handed BHs, it is the preferred stance on the 1-hander.
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I'm really stoked about this shot. It seems a bit easier to hit in an emergency than a 2HBH. And it really seems to throw opponents for a loop. Now I need more control and consistency. That's gonna be a lot of practice . . . .
 
I think all the posters above have made the point about the impact that your stance (open, closed) makes on the path of the racket as it cuts under the ball. If you cut under and then follow through in the direction the ball came, the ball goes back in the same direction and you put pure underspin. But the more you cut under and across it (because you are more open, or because you want to change direction - say, the ball come to your backhand but close to the middle of the baseline, and you want to slice it down the line to the far corner), the more sidespin you add also.

Some posters have talked about putting sidespin on the outside. The shot you can do this is when you take a high backhand early, and you slice it down and across to bounce short (rather than at the back) in the opposite service box. The way you do this is by slicing around the outside of the ball (which puts sidespin), and because it's a high ball you're hitting you're actually slicing slightly downwards. The result is that when the ball bounces it tends to check and it also spins sideways but parallel to the net, so ends up like a bit of a dropshot.

I find this type of return very effective when playing mixed doubles (where I usually take backhand), on the lady's second serve. It often is a bit of a floater (just to get it in), so I first put pressure on the server by stepping right in to take it early with an inside-out forehand, as she is preparing to serve. Then, if she manages to plop her second serve to my backhand and I don't want to give her extra time by running around it, I simply step further in and cut it down, short and across, aiming for the sideline of the singles court, about half way up the service box (ideally, shorter, so more of an angled drop). I know that she will never play S&V on that serve, as I'm threatening the hard return, so her momentum will be to serve and hang back, so she'll be late in starting to run forwards. If she gets it, it's still a tricky backhand she has to pick low and upwards, and the most she'll be able to do is to pop it up in front of her, for my partner to kill on the volley. If she manages to steer it across, as I'm coming up the ball will play into my strong, high forehand volley; or if she does manage to lob my partner, the lob will still be slow-paced enough for my to switch and go back to cover. Really, the only effective answer is a low dink diagonally across to the opposite sideline on my side of the net - not easy to do when you're stretching on your backhand...
 
Oooh, that may be it. I didn't think of that. That would give you a snatching kind of stroke, which might cause sidespin.

I'll play around with it again tomorrow and I'll make sure to really step into the shot and see if that is the answer.

Yeah - a lot of players with two handed backhands struggle with the slice because they try to hit open, across the body, instead of forward and through the ball
 
Yeah, either you're hitting across your body or you're scooping low balls below your shoulder level...either causes some amount of sidespin.
 
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