kchau said:gamma 5003, the roller string guide makes a world of difference.
i dont like what the heck is going on between eagnas and silent partner, and i dont know who is telling the truth and who is lying, so i have decided to steer away from them.
if i had the money i would buy the 5003.
pchoi04 said:Hmm... I over looked this one... Not bad.
But I have heard of people on these boards that have had bad experiences with Eagnas.
Anyone else?
I don't think you can go wrong with either the Maestro or the 5003...You can add the Alpha machines in that mix as well (Axis Pro and Blu-DC+). Just makes the decision a little harder. Good Luck.pchoi04 said:Yeah... I've heard a couple reviews on the SP Maestro from a few people on this board and have heard only good things. I'm pretty much sold on this machine but I just want to make sure there isnt something better out there for its price.
barry said:What is the difference between these two machines?
http://sptennis.com/stringer.asp#MAESTRO
http://www.eagnas.com/hyper480.html#MAESTRO
One sells for $200 less than the other. Don't have access to either, but the pictures and features look the same.
Masamusou said:...and right on cue, in comes barry for the Eagnas following. The difference: one is made by Xpider and comes with the same clamps as are on the Aria, which are excellent, the other is made by Lily Lee and comes with the PN-1012 clamps that have received mixed reviews. I believe a board member actually purchased a 480 only to end up with all kinds of problems with it (different, thinner turntable than pictures I believe was one of the complaints). The upgrade in clamps alone between the Maestro and the 480 is almost equal to the extra $200 (SP clamps are $75 each), but hey, whatever, take a chance on it if you want, a stringing machine should last a long, long time. Find the one you want and get it, don't settle just to save a little bit of money initially. Purchasing a stringing machine is basically an investment, and that's how it should be approached.
Audiodude said:If you examine the close ups of the mounting arms, it's obvious that they are clearly different machines. One is just made to look like the other. I guess if you're going to purchase a machine based on appearance only, then why not save two hundred dollars?
barry said:So you like myself have no first hand experience with either machine, just what you READ. Don't know about the clamps being better, I do know the Aria clamps are now 3 tooth, just like the Eagnas ones. I compared the Aria clamps (friend let me string a racket on his Aria) with my Eagnas clamps, both seem to hold tension which is what I assumed they were designed to do. I do think the Aria base clamps are superior to my cone lock clamps, but once again spring assisted base clamps are pretty much spring assisted base clamps.
So back to the original question, other than a different dealers name on the machines, what is the difference?
Masamusou said:And again you make assumptions that are wrong. I have used a Maestro before. I've used the Maestro with the SP clamps and I've also used an Eagnas with their 3-tooth clamps. Sounds like I have basis for a comparison here doesn't it? It's not even a contest, the Maestro clamps are far superior. I don't know why I even bother, you still believe that the turntables on the Combo 910 and the Blu-DC are the exact same. You probably believe that Alpha just rebrands Eagnas machines too. Maybe you should do a little more research on these things before making your assumptions. I'm not getting into anything more specific about the 480 because I haven't used that particular machine, but the difference in clamps alone is enough to justify a Maestro IMO (and yes barry, I have used both clamps and can easily tell a difference). If you aren't as picky as me that's fine, there are plenty of machines made and most/all of them will do a job, personally, I won't use something of inferior quality. Again barry, read this one sentence here: I DO HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THE EAGNAS CLAMPS AND WITH THE SP CLAMPS, so don't even try that "you can only go based off of what you read" crap.
Here's my broad spectrum message: If cost is the only thing you care about, then sure, go ahead and buy Eagnas. Like I said before, purchasing a stringing machine should be considered an investment, which means research should be done in order to choose the RIGHT machine for that individual's purposes. If that individual is only focused on the cost, then Eagnas is probably the way to go, not everyone has the same requirements barry. You seem to prefer cheaper cost, I'm all about quality.
barry said:Been stringing for over 20 years, how about you?
barry said:You posted earlier you had no experience on either machine. Guess in your virtual world it works different. You being all knowledgeable and an expert on all stringing machines, I don’t know why you bother either, maybe the board should just ask you!
Been stringing for over 20 years, how about you?
.and right on cue, in comes barry for the Eagnas following. The difference: one is made by Xpider and comes with the same clamps as are on the Aria, which are excellent, the other is made by Lily Lee and comes with the PN-1012 clamps that have received mixed reviews. I believe a board member actually purchased a 480 only to end up with all kinds of problems with it (different, thinner turntable than pictures I believe was one of the complaints).
Well said. Many of us prefer brand names, because we know the companies are concerned about what their names. They do R&D, provide customer service before and after the sale. We you need a chuckle go read the Eagnas faq. They just rip Silent Partner...Can't really take them seriously when they sell like 78 models. Some might be good, but why 78 models. How many does Alpha, Gamma and Neos sell...Better to sell less and maintain quality - at least that is my opinion...Masamusou said:Here's my broad spectrum message: If cost is the only thing you care about, then sure, go ahead and buy Eagnas. Like I said before, purchasing a stringing machine should be considered an investment, which means research should be done in order to choose the RIGHT machine for that individual's purposes. If that individual is only focused on the cost, then Eagnas is probably the way to go, not everyone has the same requirements barry. You seem to prefer cheaper cost, I'm all about quality.
barry said:It does appear the mounting arms on the Eagnas has holes in it, the SP does not. So which came first the 480 or the MAESTRO . Since the MAESTRO is a new machine from SP, I assume it is a clone of the Eagnas 480! I think they both use the same parts with a few minor differences.
Masamusou said:...and right on cue, in comes barry for the Eagnas following. The difference: one is made by Xpider and comes with the same clamps as are on the Aria, which are excellent, the other is made by Lily Lee and comes with the PN-1012 clamps that have received mixed reviews. I believe a board member actually purchased a 480 only to end up with all kinds of problems with it (different, thinner turntable than pictures I believe was one of the complaints). The upgrade in clamps alone between the Maestro and the 480 is almost equal to the extra $200 (SP clamps are $75 each), but hey, whatever, take a chance on it if you want, a stringing machine should last a long, long time. Find the one you want and get it, don't settle just to save a little bit of money initially. Purchasing a stringing machine is basically an investment, and that's how it should be approached.
RIRed2005, if I were in your shoes, I would settle for either the Alpha or Gamma. ... leaning slightly more towards the Alpha, though.RIRed2005 said:Hey guys,
I don't want to feel like "Big-John McCarthy", the referee at the UFC martial-arts fights...cool it... I value both your opinions...
In this price-range of $750.-$800. is the choice among:
Alpha Axis Pro
Gamma 5003
and SP Maestro ?
Any others that should be on the "short-list"?
Thx...