Silicone in the handle, what feeling?

NicoHK

New User
Hey guys,

I have read silicone on the handle provides a great feeling and very confortable sensation BUT... could you describe it a little more please? I have never tried it before being afraid of not getting the possibility to remove it once done.
But now I have an old Dunlop HM 300G that I do not play with as I have a reissued HM 300G, I would give a try to this old stick. What is the minimum amount of silicone to feel something?
I usually add about 15gr of lead at the top of the handle, how can I get so far in the handle with the silicone?
Thanks for all your advice and comments.

Nicolas
 

TheRed

Hall of Fame
It can be removed. I've tried silicone in various racquets and frankly, don't like it that much. It numbs the racquet with a rubbery feel but doesn't take away the pingy sound in racquets. I prefer the feel foam and lead for weight.
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
I wouldn't try putting silicone in the racket handle if I were you. I had a fried that put some in his racket from a tube once and hated it. When he tried to take it out it was a mess.

In lieu of silicone I would use something like silly puddly, play dough, plumbers puddly, modeling clay, etc... You can push some cotton balls into the handle to hold what ever you put in the handle in position. Here is an interesting read is you have not read it before.

http://blog.tennis-warehouse.com/racquets/the-perfect-racquet-customizing-with-expert-paul-reed/.
 
I would use that only if I wanted to change the balance (or counterweighting) of the racket not just for dampening the racket.
 

TimothyO

Hall of Fame
As others have noted, the result is a dampened, rubbery feel which some dislike but others enjoy (I enjoy it). It also provides a way to make the balance more head light.

TheRed is also correct that it doesn't change the pingy sound. To get rid of that weave a rubber band or two through the mains just below the bottom cross. Then you'll get a very deep, thumpy sound (much better than any dampener).

My advice: since it's hard (but not impossible) to reverse, first use lead tape under the grip to figure out your target weight and balance. Once you have that perfected you can consider replacing a given amount (or all) of lead tape under the grip with silicone in the handle. It's a lot easier to tweak lead tape than silicone so using lead tape to prototype your setup makes life easier.

By way of reference I've found that filling the butt cap area up to the staples adds roughly 6 grams depending on the frame.
 
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NicoHK

New User
Thanks all of you for your comments and advice.
I must admit that most of your sayings are far different from what I have read here and there. I had in mind that adding silicone in the handle will bring a lots of positives things as dampening, warmer sound and of course (but as with leadtape) counterbalance the weight. By the way, I know exactly where the lead need to go on the handle to reach the feeling I am looking for but was wondering if silicone instead would be better.
According to you, I think I will finally try what you call Blue Stick (I guess the equivalent I can find in France is kind of this:

http://www.uhu.fr/produits/pastilles-adhesives/detail/uhu-patafix.html

Easy to remove if needed but not sure it is very dense and heavy...
 
I filled my handle completely with silicone and inserted 2 bolts to add weight. I hated the hollow feel of my pure drive gt and silicone was amazing to sort that out. it added weight too, obviously, which was my second objective.

I wouldn't do it though, if you're just looking to change the racket's balance. It's tough to remove if you, for instance, decide to sell the racket.
 

Tennisist

Professional
Rubber bands

Some racquets respond better than others. Dunlop is one of the best in this regard. Somehow, with Dunlops, I've had only good results from adding weight to the handle.

I do not like silicone. It does not add anything, except weight.

The best material to use is Sorbothane.

The next best thing is rubber bands. Jam in a cotton stopper in first. Then fill with rubber bands.

Sorbothane and rubber bands really dampen the vibrations, and change not just the feel and sound, but the entire character of the racquet.
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
Some racquets respond better than others. Dunlop is one of the best in this regard. Somehow, with Dunlops, I've had only good results from adding weight to the handle.

I do not like silicone. It does not add anything, except weight.

The best material to use is Sorbothane.

The next best thing is rubber bands. Jam in a cotton stopper in first. Then fill with rubber bands.

Sorbothane and rubber bands really dampen the vibrations, and change not just the feel and sound, but the entire character of the racquet.

Tennisist knows what he is talking about:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?p=7996665#post7996665
 

Tonyr1967

Rookie
Have to say I'm a silicone convert. Only tried it recently and it transformed the feel of my APD 2013's.

Not sure I'd use it in other sticks but in Babolats it was a great move, they now feel solid and plush.
 

NicoHK

New User
Indeed, it seems many guys playing Babolat point out the benefits of silicone and it appears less convincing with other sticks.
Adding lead tape works well for me on all my Dunlops, but for curiosity, I wanted to try silicone to feel the difference... if there is any!
If it only brings more weight, no interest. For dampener, I play with the Technifibre Vibra Clip and I am fully satisfied with it, as well for the vibration reduction as for the sound.
 

Tonyr1967

Rookie
Indeed, it seems many guys playing Babolat point out the benefits of silicone and it appears less convincing with other sticks.
Adding lead tape works well for me on all my Dunlops, but for curiosity, I wanted to try silicone to feel the difference... if there is any!
If it only brings more weight, no interest. For dampener, I play with the Technifibre Vibra Clip and I am fully satisfied with it, as well for the vibration reduction as for the sound.

As I've only tried it in my APD's I can't comment on Dunlops. However, I found that there were benefits above weight - I now have more feel and touch shots are much, much easier. Vibration dampening is a bonus.
 

txt858

Rookie
and that hollow feel from the Babolat will be minimized with silicone. It does make a big difference with whatever racquet you use. All of my racquet have silicone in the handle, Babolats and Wilson and to me it makes it better.
 

NicoHK

New User
For now, can't test the blue stick to add weight on my stick as I am stuck at home with a tennis elbow...
Let you know when I have tinker with it.
Have fun.
 
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