Since 2011 the best player is Novak Djokovic

[TennisLovaLova]

It's a simple but staggering fact. Nobody won as many slams and trophies as him. 13 slams since 2011, Nadal 8 and Fred 5, winning 3 slams in 2011 and 2015.
Fact.
Since 2011 the king of tennis is Novak Djokovic. He's the best player in activity and the best for almost a decade now.

 

[Deleted member 743561]

That was the year Fed turned 30. How has Djoker managed to best him in that time span?

 

[RF-18]

The BOAT

 

[mike danny]

What 7 slams for Fed are you on about?

 

[tennis_pro]

You can pick a specific timeframe and apply the same logic to Federer and Nadal. It really doesn't mean much.

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

What 7 slams for Fed are you on about?

2xAO, 2xW and 3xRS.

 

[Jonas78]

So?? I think most people would agree with this, even Fedal fans. Djokovic prime was 2011 to 2016, so its natural he has been the best player sinse 2011.

 

[TennisLovaLova]

What 7 slams for Fed are you on about?

CORRECTED 5

 

[TennisLovaLova]

So?? I think most people would agree with this, even Fedal fans. Djokovic prime was 2011 to 2016, so its natural he has been the best player sinse 2011.

And still is the best of the 3 atm

 

[Maestroesque]

Deletion

 

[Newballs]

He has done very well indeed and has done it against the best. It’s nice to see him back after such troubles, although the donut serving thing in the subway on the today show was a little odd.

 

[BeatlesFan]

It's a simple but staggering fact. Nobody won as many slams and trophies as him. 13 slams since 2011, Nadal 8 and Fred 5, winning 3 slams in 2011 and 2015.
Fact.

It's a simple but staggering fact that Federer was 30 years old in 2011, and he was years past his peak whereas in the time span you mention, Djokovic was between 24-31.

Fact.

Now let's take another period when Roger was actually in his 20's:

2003-2010.

Guess what? He won 15 slams.

 

[mike danny]

CORRECTED 5

Wrong again

It's 4.

 

[TennisLovaLova]

It's a simple but staggering fact that Federer was 30 years old in 2011, and he was years past his peak whereas in the time span you mention, Djokovic was between 24-31.

Fact.

Now let's take another period when Roger was actually in his 20's:

2003-2010.

Guess what? He won 15 slams.

I don't see any contradiction here. 15 slams before 2011 for Fred.
It just confirms that since 2011 Federer slowed down mostly because Novak Djokovic has become the superior player.

 

[Jonas78]

And still is the best of the 3 atm

Outside clay, yes he is. Obviously.

But you have to understand that the only reason Fedalovic can keep winning at this rate 2017/2018, is that they dont have to face 24/25y old versions of themselves (or other players at that level)

 

[Russeljones]

Kanye West > Beethoven since 2011. Fact.

 

[TMF]

Why only limit from 2011 to the present when tennis was invented in 1873 ?

 

[Deleted member 754093]

HOT take

 

[Powderwombat]

Let's not forget Fred dominated the likes of David Nalbandian, Marcos Baghdatis and Andy Roddick. How did he do it?

 

[Pantera]

Since 2008 Nadal is best player . Why start at 2011 out of interest?

 

[Russeljones]

Let's not forget Fred dominated the likes of David Nalbandian, Marcos Baghdatis and Andy Roddick. How did he do it?

Ask Novak.

 

[Jonas78]

Ask Novak.

Lol, you are on fire today! Thats three 10/10 posts Ive read just today

 

[swordtennis]

He is the leopard the puma the jaguar. The strongest jaw and bite of all the big cats. He crushes the skulls of bulls and drags them off to devour.
This is Sparta!

 

[Service Ace]

Since 2003 the best player is Roger Federer

It's a simple but staggering fact. Nobody won as many slams and trophies as him. 20 slams since 2003, Nadal 17 and Joe 14, winning 3 slams in 2004, 2006 and 2007.
Fact.
Since 2003 the king of tennis is Roger Federer. He's the best player in activity and the best for almost two decades now.

 

[Powderwombat]

Since 2003 the best player is Roger Federer

It's a simple but staggering fact. Nobody won as many slams and trophies as him. 20 slams since 2003, Nadal 17 and Joe 14, winning 3 slams in 2004, 2006 and 2007.
Fact.
Since 2003 the king of tennis is Roger Federer. He's the best player in activity and the best for almost two decades now.

Dude lost to John Millman in 4 sets.

 

[mike danny]

Since 2008 Nadal is best player . Why start at 2011 out of interest?

Why start at 2008 out of interest?

 

[Powderwombat]

Why start at 2008 out of interest?

Cause that's after the era where Marcos Baghdatis was making slam finals

 

[Pantera]

Why start at 2008 out of interest?

Just as random as 2011 or 2003 although I think I worked out one thread was a retort to the other and I fell for it .

 

[Service Ace]

Cause that's after the era where Marcos Baghdatis was making slam finals

If only Marco was as talented as Berdych, Anderson and David Ferrer

 

[Service Ace]

Dude lost to John Millman in 4 sets.

 

[Powderwombat]

nice photoshop bro

 

[mike danny]

Cause that's after the era where Marcos Baghdatis was making slam finals

But unseeded players like Tsonga were doing it instead.

 

[Deon Sanders]

It's true OP

Cherry picked as hell but true

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

Dude lost to John Millman in 4 sets.

Djokovic lost to Cecchinato in 4 sets.

 

[TennisLovaLova]

Since 2003 the best player is Roger Federer

It's a simple but staggering fact. Nobody won as many slams and trophies as him. 20 slams since 2003, Nadal 17 and Joe 14, winning 3 slams in 2004, 2006 and 2007.
Fact.
Since 2003 the king of tennis is Roger Federer. He's the best player in activity and the best for almost two decades now.

I tell you why. Easy.
Djokovic was not around. When he peaked, around 2010-2011, he won more than twice the number of slams Federer did.
Also, Federer himself says he plays now better than he used to.
So there you go

 

[TennisLovaLova]

Why start at 2008 out of interest?

2011 is an interesting year because that's when Djokovic took over

 

[TennisLovaLova]

It's true OP

Cherry picked as hell but true

It's a fact

 

[TennisCJC]

Yes, since 2011, Djoko is best player. And, since forever Federer is the best player and Nadal is the best clay court player.

Djoko is 5 years younger than Federer which is commonly accepted as a tennis generation. Djokovic is in Nadal's and Murray's generation and none of them are in Federer's generation. I think it is safe to say Djokovic is the most dominate player of the last 6 or 7 years but I still rank Federer and Nadal ahead of Djokovic on the all time great ladder as it is all about the slams to me.

And, we all have to keep in mind that courts, strings and racket changes help Djokovic, Nadal and Murray as their games are heavily dependent on defense.

 

[Service Ace]

nice photoshop bro

Wait, you think their actual H2H is a photoshop?

 

[Service Ace]

I tell you why. Easy.
Djokovic was not around. When he peaked, around 2010-2011, he won more than twice the number of slams Federer did.
Also, Federer himself says he plays now better than he used to.
So there you go

Another dope who thinks the competition is only tough if it's against "Prime" Djokovic or "Prime" Nadal conveniently leaving out the fact that career journeyman like Tsonga-Berdych-Wawa-Ferrer in Feds era made up the top 20 in Djokovic/Nadal's "era"

Children who didn't start watching tennis until 2011 don't get an opinion. Learn some tennis history before dropping these garbage "hot takes" you millennials are so eager to push.

 

[TennisLovaLova]

Another dope who thinks the competition is only tough if it's against "Prime" Djokovic or "Prime" Nadal conveniently leaving out the fact that career journeyman like Tsonga-Berdych-Wawa-Ferrer in Feds era made up the top 20 in Djokovic/Nadal's "era"

Children who didn't start watching tennis until 2011 don't get an opinion. Learn some tennis history before dropping these garbage "hot takes" you millennials are so eager to push.

Millenial... seriously... I was born in 1979
And also please read this, I just posted it in the other thread started after this one:
https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...-is-roger-federer.626838/page-2#post-12718316
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Apology accepted.