Since post-2011, Nadal is 6-2 vs Djokovic

Has Nadal turned the tide against Djokovic?

  • Yes

    Votes: 11 84.6%
  • No

    Votes: 2 15.4%

  • Total voters
    13

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Banned
Since the start of 2012, Nadal has gone 6-2 against Djokovic (including 3-1 in slams).

Nadal leads the h2h 8-3 in slams, and 22-15 overall.

Do you think this indicates that Nadal has completely turned the tide against Djokovic?

These are the matches they have played since the start of 2012 (thanks to Mustard):

2012 Australian Open F: Novak Djokovic def. Rafael Nadal (5-7, 6-4, 6-2, 6-7, 7-5)
2012 Monte Carlo F: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (6-3, 6-1)
2012 Rome F: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (7-5, 6-3)
2012 French Open F: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (6-4, 6-3, 2-6, 7-5)
2013 Monte Carlo F: Novak Djokovic def. Rafael Nadal (6-2, 7-6)
2013 French Open SF: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (6-4, 3-6, 6-1, 6-7, 9-7)
2013 Montreal SF: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (6-4, 3-6, 7-6)
2013 US Open F: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (6-2, 3-6, 6-4, 6-1)
 

powerangle

Legend
Since the start of 2012, Nadal has gone 6-2 against Djokovic (including 3-1 in slams).

Nadal leads the h2h 8-3 in slams, and 22-15 overall.

Do you think this indicates that Nadal has completely turned the tide against Djokovic?

These are the matches they have played since the start of 2012 (thanks to Mustard):

2012 Australian Open F: Novak Djokovic def. Rafael Nadal (5-7, 6-4, 6-2, 6-7, 7-5)
2012 Monte Carlo F: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (6-3, 6-1)
2012 Rome F: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (7-5, 6-3)
2012 French Open F: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (6-4, 6-3, 2-6, 7-5)
2013 Monte Carlo F: Novak Djokovic def. Rafael Nadal (6-2, 7-6)
2013 French Open SF: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (6-4, 3-6, 6-1, 6-7, 9-7)
2013 Montreal SF: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (6-4, 3-6, 7-6)
2013 US Open F: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (6-2, 3-6, 6-4, 6-1)

Too early to say. Nadal was something like 16-7 against Djokovic up through 2010. Rafa's domination overall in that matchup was thorough. Then in 2011 it was Djokovic 6-0 against Rafa, out of nowhere. Some could have said that Djokovic turned the tide completely around. Then we saw what happened...(Rafa turns it back).

So Djokovic could turn it back around again, just like Nadal did...who knows. That's the beauty of the sport.
 

Mustard

Bionic Poster
Nadal was taken completely by surprise by 2011 Djokovic. I don't think Nadal will be taken by surprise by Djokovic like that again.
 

papertank

Hall of Fame
The ball is in Djokovic's court now. Djokovic upped his game to an insane level and Nadal changed his game accordingly in order to start winning again. Can Djokovic wrestle the momentum of this rivalry back again?
 

powerangle

Legend
Nadal was taken completely by surprise by 2011 Djokovic. I don't think Nadal will be taken by surprise by Djokovic like that again.

Taken by surprise, but also due to Novak's insane level. I'm not sure Rafa would be leading 6-2 post-2011 if Novak had still been on his 2011 insane level.

Plus, some of the matches recently have been very close. Change a couple key important points, and the h2h post-2011 could be looking very different. It's all about that extra edge. If Novak comes back more refreshed in 2014 and can edge Nadal a bit at the key moments, he could very well take a more commanding lead in the future. Not saying that will happen...but it could. The margins are very small between them when both are playing well.
 

bullfan

Legend
Nadal was taken completely by surprise by 2011 Djokovic. I don't think Nadal will be taken by surprise by Djokovic like that again.

I think Nadal wasn't as prepared for 2011 as he should have been. I think he also had way too many outside commitments.
 

Backspin1183

Talk Tennis Guru
Novak Djokovic 2011 wasn't a perfect tennis player but a big clutch one. He's still the same player with all those tennis skills but not the same confidence. Also a confident Nadal is a nightmare for his rivals.

I didn't expect this but since RG13, Novak's been a bit nervous every time he's faced Nadal. He starts leaking too many errors, DFs, and is not confident with shots, etc. Maybe Rafa's found a room in his Nole's head.
 

powerangle

Legend
Novak Djokovic 2011 wasn't a perfect tennis player but a big clutch one. He's still the same player with all those tennis skills but not the same confidence. Also a confident Nadal is a nightmare for his rivals.

I didn't expect this but since RG13, Novak's been a bit nervous every time he's faced Nadal. He starts leaking too many errors, DFs, and is not confident with shots, etc. Maybe Rafa's found a room in his Nole's head.

I agree. I think it's a both a bit of Djokovic coming down from his 2011 level (mostly mental) and Rafa upping his level. For all the talk of Rafa "figuring out" or solving the puzzle of Novak, I think Novak himself has been playing worse (mostly mental, at the big moments). I don't think Nadal would have "solved" Novak to the tune of 6-2 h2h if Novak were still as big and as clutch as he was in 2011.

If Novak were a bit more confident, he possibly could have swept Nadal this season, including victories, in addition to the Monte Carlo win, over Rafa at RG, Montreal, and US Open (the margins were that small).
 
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Mustard

Bionic Poster
In 2011, Nadal openly admitted that Djokovic was in his head, and that it was a challenge trying to work out a solution to the puzzle.
 
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