Sinner accepts settlement with WADA for 3 month ban

Winner Sinner said:
Some users are hilarious because they don't understand anything about the matter but still have the courage to speak out.

No one made any allusion to conscious doping, not even Wada itself.

This plea agreement was the best solution for the parties involved.
By doing so, Sinner does not risk compromising part of his career due to the negligence of his staff.
I want someone who in his place would not have made this decision, and the issue of guilty conscience has nothing to do with it.
And in the meantime Wada strengthens its political positionti
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Exactly. This is obviously the wisest decision for all parties involved, how do people not understand it. If WADA were confident about the appeal, they wouldn never settle. This further confirms how much of a storm in a teacup this all was to begin with
 
Drighiz said:
Exactly. This is obviously the wisest decision for all parties involved, how do people not understand it. If WADA were confident about the appeal, they wouldn never settle. This further confirms how much of a storm in a teacup this all was to begin with
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Indeed. Risk management, nothing unusual when the stakes are that high. Still infuriating that this resulted for the first time in a ban for "no player negligence, no knowledge or no benefit".

Will Wada be forced to change their rules before 2027 or will they continue to dither, bringing them and sport into further disrepute?
 
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The shame of the system, it is no coincidence that Wada itself, which I repeat, had its own political victory, some time ago admitted that the regulation on cases of contamination in sport must be revised in a broader framework.

From this outcome the only thing that has been understood is that an athlete is forced to monitor what happens within his own staff even to the limits of compulsive obsession, undermining in the most extreme cases even at the cost of undermining the privacy of others.

And in the meantime, while he has to serve his sentence for strict liability due to negligence, Umberto Ferrara is free to carry out his business as if nothing had happened.

This is how the world works and we must accept it.
If one of your athletic trainers or physiotherapists wanted to sabotage you out of spite, they could do so without compromising their professional safety.
This is the moral of the story.
 
The whole thing has been farcical, why should the conclusion be any different. Sinner gets a 3-month vacation because the powers that be are too scared about what the tour will look like without him. Business over integrity.
 
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His ban is basically for negligence/incompetence rather than knowingly dope to enhance performance.

Sinner accepts that punishment which is an admission of negligence, a professional athlete should not hire people who are incompetent it's that simple.

The problem now is that people think he's gotten banned for doping and so his reputation will have this cloud hanging over him.
 
I like Jannik and belie it was accidental consummation for micro traces of banned substance for both times, still if it was Trocki or Djokovic the ban would be at least 12 months. The WADA is still inconsistent in their rulings - they are harsh for eastern Europeans and the rest of the world but usually a slap on the wrist for sportsmen from western countries.

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Winner Sinner said:
Some users are hilarious because they don't understand anything about the matter but still have the courage to speak out.

No one made any allusion to conscious doping, not even Wada itself.

This plea agreement was the best solution for the parties involved.
By doing so, Sinner does not risk compromising part of his career due to the negligence of his staff.
I want someone who in his place would not have made this decision, and the issue of guilty conscience has nothing to do with it.
And in the meantime Wada strengthens its political position.
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The truth is no athlete will admit intentional doping. It always will be „unintentional“, „an accident“, „without my knowledge“. Top athletes have lawyers and PR teams to work out excuses if they are caught.
 
Genie Of the Bank said:
I like Jannik and belie it was accidental consummation for micro traces of banned substance for both times, still if it was Trocki or Djokovic the banned would be at least 12 months. The WADA is still inconsistent in their rulings - they are harsh for eastern Europeans and the rest of the world but usual a slap on the rist for sportmen from western countries.

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That is true. Politics is the way of the world.
 
So the ban starts right now? I was Kind of pumped for doha, i mean a 3 month ban in this part of the year does asolutely nothing, its just annoying, youre not really punishing him at all making him miss a couple of masters and at the same time youre making 3 months of tennis much less interesting, its a mutherfckng lose-lose situation, lol, wada must mean what a dumb ass
 
Zardoz7/12 said:
His ban is basically for negligence/incompetence rather than knowingly dope to enhance performance.

Sinner accepts that punishment which is an admission of negligence, a professional athlete should not hire people who are incompetent it's that simple.

The problem now is that people think he's gotten banned for doping and so his reputation will have this cloud hanging over him.
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Sharapova was banished for more than a year for her negligence / incompetence of her team. Why Sinner is different?
 
Nah,man, unrealistic to expect a fair / reasonable / meaningful outcome from a regulatory system (including WADA in that description) that is itself in a mess, lacks credibility and is under criticism, including for it's ad hoc approach to the application of sanctions. Old news that there is no such thing, that the system is flawed. The openly criticised existing system includes issues of:
  • Lack of transparency
  • Lack of consistency in the application of the rules / guidelines
  • Related unequal treatment of cases/players
Add to the mix, the political slant to maintain a degree of stability at the higher end of the sport. Long bans for those who bring in money / increase public interest in the sport is simply not conducive to that agenda. Jannik is excelling and making / breaking records. Tournaments want him there, the fans want him there. It isn't rocket science that those making these decisions will be swayed by the overall circumstances to prop up the ATP tour/ the sport, in the context of desperately using perceived superstars competing, to promote the sport.

Those denying that Jannik's initial story was suspect, and that he has not benefitted from leniency are choosing to ignore the real concern felt by many tennis fans regarding integrity and fairness. Those alleging that the sport will suffer from ill repute as a result of this decision are choosing to ignore reality, and that the aim by the system is to be seen to be doing something - not to do what is necessarily fair or right. They use the rules to suit their agenda. But I agree, if on the facts, WADA has not applied its rules appropriately in Jannik's case, it effectively sanctions the breach of the rules.

If I were innocent, but could not avoid a sanction, then I would consider any option that allowed me to minimise the impact upon me/upon my career. I suspect that Jannik did not want to agree any ban, but had no choice, and it was the lesser hit on his career than other options. Therefore accepting the ban is not an admission of guilt, but a necessity. He has said as much. Also, there is likely to be a 'face-saving' excerise for WADA in this outcome, because aspects of the existing system would be open to scrutiny if the hearing went ahead, no doubt adding to the growing crescendo of disatisfaction with it. I believe it is also intended that the rules / their application are to change, and therefore, the awaited changes may have been brought forward, to apply to all future cases.

I agree with those saying that Jannik has got away with it lightly, that he used his wealth / status to do so, and that this decision is a result of a heavyweight defence. That's the real world for you, I'd be surprised if he didn't do so. But I cannot support long bans for players who are found not to have deliberately used banned substances and found not to have enhanced their performance, as was so in Jannik's case. Ruining a player's life / career is not the answer to injustice suffered by other players. No player should be made the scapegoat of the system.
 
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AM75 said:
Sharapova was banished for more than a year for her negligence / incompetence of her team. Why Sinner is different?
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That is not apples to apples comparison. Sharapova was responsable by her own mistake as she didn't know meldonium became a banned substance.

The closest comparison to Sinner's case is Marco Bortolotti who was never banned in a similar instance.
 
Wawrinka and now Henman calling this BS double standard out. Two respected people in the sport already calling this as ridiculous. More to come I’m sure.

Yet forumers here still trying to defend this as standard procedure like this is normal.

This is disgusting and an embarrassment to tennis.
 
Rovesciarete said:
Tim was never the sharpest tool in the shed, WADA gambled and got away by offering Jannik a deal. Obviously there has been a negotiation and only a convenient offer could have enticed Sinner enough to accept it and to lift his and WADA's burden.
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Henman, Wawrinka. How many people will it take before you realise how disgusting this farce is? A ban right after the Aus Open that finishes just in time for the French Open? Open your eyes. Corruption. Dishonesty.

Wake up.
 
"I do Stan. It’s very clear he hasn’t done anything to enhance his performance, that’s proven.He’s taking full responsibility for others mistake and 3 months suspension consequently. Longer suspension would’ve made sport cleaner?I don’t think so." - Feliciano López

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For me the just punishment for the this accidental repetitive incident would be a ban for the whole clay season including the Roland- Garros tournament.

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Seems a very fair settlement. We can put this all to rest now and look forward to beautiful tennis.

Just because some players were not treated the same way in the past is for organizations to look at, not the fault of Sinner or Italian Federation.

The sport would have missed the genuine No 1 and it would have been in shambles without Sinner.

One does not ban a player for 1 or 2 years for mistaken contamination. That is being punitive.

I know many wanted Sinner to be banned for 1-2 years, so their favorites can rake up majors. Sorry that plan got shut. I am happy Sinner is not missing any major. I wish he could have played Madrid, but no big issue.
 
Im(moral) Winner said:
"I do Stan. It’s very clear he hasn’t done anything to enhance his performance, that’s proven.He’s taking full responsibility for others mistake and 3 months suspension consequently. Longer suspension would’ve made sport cleaner?I don’t think so." - Feliciano López

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Longer suspension would’ve made sport cleaner?I don’t think so
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That’s got to be one of the dumbest takes on this issue I’ve seen. López knows, everyone who defends Sinner knows. But they prefer to paint it this way.

It’s not about whether Sinner intented to dope or not. It’s about zero tolerance. It should be to send a message to everyone: zero, nil, nada will be tolerated. Not even to the world number 1.
But ofc, López being a tournament director as well as Gaudenzi must have their own interests.
 
Im(moral) Winner said:
"I do Stan. It’s very clear he hasn’t done anything to enhance his performance, that’s proven.He’s taking full responsibility for others mistake and 3 months suspension consequently. Longer suspension would’ve made sport cleaner?I don’t think so." - Feliciano López

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A tad ambiguous: is Lopez suggesting the sport isn't clean? Maybe lost in translation if he spoke/wrote in Spanish.
 
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