Of course it's convenient! Sinner wouldn't take it otherwise and would continue fighting to be cleared (as he was and still is). People need to realise that Sinner has been judged, so far, at no fault or negligence, and he didn't HAVE to take this. He's doing it to get it over with, and WADA are doing it because it's the most they can hope to get cause this charge doesn't have a leg to stand on. Sinner, so far, has been judged to bear no fault or negligence, yet he's accepting a penalty because he's a wise kid and well advised. And people still call him a cheat!? For serving a ban after being judged not at fault, he's a cheat?? What more does he have to do? He defended himself, won, eventually deciding to go serve a light ban to not drag this over. End of the story, move on.
Sinner accepts settlement with WADA for 3 month ban
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"If you are truly innocent you don't settle" haha OMG you probably have never had to deal with the justice system man. I can't believe what I'm reading it's madness.
Of course he will.
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
If Sinner and Nike really believed in his innocence they would have buried WADA/CAS etc in legal fees
He doped and everyone knows it, except the people who can't accept it
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
No way missing a masters is same as missing a major. Perfect timing sounds like premeditated corruption
He should but tennis has a very low number of OOC tests, mostly because players are always on tour playing tournaments.
Had he done that, you'd have called him a crook anyway. He's taking a ban after having been found at no fault, and you still call him a cheat. He can't win, the only good scenario for you guys is if he got banned for a year or two, but he's done nothing to grant that.
Even WADA states he didn't dope man! Listen to yourself! Why the witch-hunt geez
It's no corruption. It's just what WADA could get him to agree to to save face.
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
What they are saying in public and what they think privately can be two different things. Don't be so credulous
Soulless is what it is.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
It is corruption to get this process delayed until post ao and pre rome, his home tournament.
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
Nole was lucky his plan worked this well. He can claw back a lot of points while Sinner is gone and his mentality may be shaken when he returns.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Shut the hell up
Your conspiracy theories should have got you banned many years ago. A stain completely.
Turning Pro
Hall of Fame
The way I see it is.
He could have appealed it, and drag on for the best part of a year or years even and have this 'hanging' over him and be distracted
OR
take the 3 month ban........
He could have appealed it, and drag on for the best part of a year or years even and have this 'hanging' over him and be distracted
OR
take the 3 month ban........
He didn't dope... it was just a coincidence that in the same year he had a huge jump in level, he also tested positive twice for a steroid. Just a crazy coincidence.
AM75
Hall of Fame
There are always TUEs. He probably still dopes but has a permission to do it. Like some other athletes. You think his recent performance with trembling and so on was for nothing? He needs to convince people he has some health condition.
AM75
Hall of Fame
Sinnerbots are finally here.
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
So you think it is all coincidence that Novak hires Sinner's old trainers, and then Sinner gets busted? Knowing Novak has so many connections in the ATP via Gaudenzi?
And then that Nick Kyrgios, Novak's lapdog, was the one to go after Sinner the hardest....and Novak was silent?
Got a bridge to sell you too.
Winner Sinner
Hall of Fame
"guilty of the actions of his staff"
Sometimes judging events superficially is precisely the ideal way out to hide one's ignorance on the topic in question.
Like those who still make allusions to conscious doping and possible preferential lanes.
Everything that happened, including the various steps of the possibility of immediately submitting an appeal to an independent tribunal, is all part of the protocol procedures, nothing but favoritism.
It's a shame that no one belonging to the party of unfair treatments has yet been able to explain where in this specific case the protocol procedure in accordance with the regulation was violated.
It makes me laugh that those who talk about unfair treatment do not take into consideration the hypothesis that the legislation on cases of contamination is a total joke, where as already mentioned, the athlete's objective responsibility reaches the point of having to invade the privacy of others.
And if you do not adopt this behavior which under any law would be inappropriate, in the event of accidental contamination you risk paying for everything, while those truly responsible can continue to carry out their profession without any sanction.
Sometimes judging events superficially is precisely the ideal way out to hide one's ignorance on the topic in question.
Like those who still make allusions to conscious doping and possible preferential lanes.
Everything that happened, including the various steps of the possibility of immediately submitting an appeal to an independent tribunal, is all part of the protocol procedures, nothing but favoritism.
It's a shame that no one belonging to the party of unfair treatments has yet been able to explain where in this specific case the protocol procedure in accordance with the regulation was violated.
It makes me laugh that those who talk about unfair treatment do not take into consideration the hypothesis that the legislation on cases of contamination is a total joke, where as already mentioned, the athlete's objective responsibility reaches the point of having to invade the privacy of others.
And if you do not adopt this behavior which under any law would be inappropriate, in the event of accidental contamination you risk paying for everything, while those truly responsible can continue to carry out their profession without any sanction.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
And you know this how
You are saying WADA is so incapable that they kept giving him same deal for a long time and Sinner is mastermind or something.
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
Ding ding ding
Nausea is a sign as well (diuretics usage to clear PED), and Sinner has gotten nauseated in matches. Tiafoe recently got nauseated and puked on court. It's all around you if you just care to look
SirCraigoryy
Rookie
I too agree with others above stating that this is a corrupt decision to protect the number 1 golden boy of the sport. However, I think 6 months to a year considering the circumstances and how much clostebol was found in his system would be fair enough with mandatory testing for Sinner every year forward with a significantly higher more extreme ban for his second offense.
I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
The only big tournament he will miss are the IW & Miami
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nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
I don't think even 6 months was needed but they shouldn't have given him so much free ways to finally settle.
It would appear this is too complicated for some to understand...
The whole point of a settlement -- for both sides -- is to accept a tolerable compromise in exchange for ending the dispute and avoiding a potentially worse outcome (again, this could happen to either side). There's nothing corrupt about that. If the compromise were not tolerable to both sides, it wouldn't be made!
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
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I understand. I'm a "read between the lines" guy. Some ppl aren't.
Birrittene96
New User
Nice conspiracy theory.
SirCraigoryy
Rookie
I only say 6 months to a year because a positive test is still a positive test and there needs to be ramifications and consequences for breaking the rules if the sport wants to be taken seriously in terms of doping.
But the 3 months without missing any real big tournaments seems more like a vacation than a ban. It’s like a kid being suspended from school and their parents treat it like a vacation instead of a disciplinary action. Just my two cents.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Of course this happens right after he steals a slam from Chainz 
I'm saying why would Sinner take a deal that makes him skip a Slam? He probably didn't take it before, and took it now.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
You are right.
I think the entire system needs overhaul. Mandatory ban after testing and
If tested for trace elements much shorter ban but on repeated second offense longer ban.
If tested for larger quantity, mandatory longer ban.
Since sinner coach is also at fault, mandatory ban for these guys for long time not sure how to impose this
But the system is totally corrupt the way they gave sinner 2 times easy solutions first in March and second now.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Because there is no guarantee that he is proven innocent
Dude there is literally no way he can argue no fault or negligence. That's why he took a deal. Even if it's a team member at fault, the no fault or negligence is simple to understand.
You are making up stuff from behind.
No conspiracy theory needed here. The joint probability that all the "facts" that the defense alleged happened at the same time are very close to zero.
These things had to happen at same time:
- Physio brings doping product to US from Italy (after being explicity told by another staff member that it was doping).
- Physio cut his finger on that week.
- Physio didn't cover his wound.
- Player had an open wound.
These are Swiss cheese slices that hardly have any holes.
I'm making stuff up? Yet you are saying there's no way he can argue no fault or negligence, while that is exactly what he's already successfully done so far? I mean... look I'm not here to argue, but if both parties settled, it must mean they both weighted their chances and met in the middle
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
You are here to argue. You are making a theory that sinner is in total power and wada is clueless
He did argue last time and that's why wada objected because right procedure was not followed at all.
Winner Sinner
Hall of Fame
People like you can only make these allusions through this forum.
But you and those like you, from the height of your own convictions, should have the courage to go and write these things to the person concerned via private message.
Obviously there would be an infinitesimal possibility that it would then be read, but if it were to happen at that point you could also be sued for slander and defamation, given that the things you say do not correspond to the facts that emerged from various court procedures that led to a plea agreement between the parties.
But if you are so convinced of what you are advocating, give yourself courage and ask them to write directly in private expressing your thoughts on the matter.
Then why didn't wada appeal that in stead?
No I'm not. If that was the case, that WADA was clueless, he wouldn't settle. That's not the case. I'm saying they met in the middle, that's it. How is this such an unreasonable thing to say? I'm not arguing and I'm not making a theory. There's obviously been a negotiation between the parties, no? A theory would be to, I don't know, imagine there was corruption involved. Negotiating is not corruption.
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
Opinions are generally not covered under slander/defamation.
And no there's a lot I wouldn't say to them, like Fed is my favorite player yet I think it's possible he doped. Would I say it to him in person? No
But that goes for any of us.
Because the standard of proof is "more likely than not".
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