Sinner and Halep's doping cases

Steve Huff

G.O.A.T.
Both Sinner and Halep tested positive for PEDs. Both claim they didn't have anything to do with, or any knowledge of, how they received PEDs. Darren Cahill said Sinner had no part in this doping issue. He also said the Halep would never dope to get ahead in tennis. What did the cases have in common? Well, Darren Cahill was both of their coach when the doping happened. Not suggesting anything, but just an observation.
 

Jack the Hack

Hall of Fame
Well, Darren Cahill was both of their coach when the doping happened. Not suggesting anything, but just an observation.

This is totally incorrect. Darren Cahill's coaching relationship ended a year before Halep failed her drug test. Simona was being coached by Patrick Mouratoglou when she was busted. In fact, it was Mouratoglou that suggested she start taking the new supplement and the trainer on his team that provided the container that allegedly had the tainted substance.

Halep's case was also complicated by the fact that she didn't have an explanation for where the drug she tested positive for came from or how it got into her system for several weeks, so her provisional suspension became activated. By rule, when the provisional suspension wasn't contested and became active, that is when the case became publicly disclosed. It took her quite some time to find the contaminated supplement container and run tests to show that it was the likely source. (There is an ongoing lawsuit with the supplement maker.) Further complicating the situation, there were anomalies detected in her biological passport from earlier in the Summer that some of the scientists in the Independent Tribunal believed were indicative of doping starting before the French Open. This was disputed in the CAS appeal, which ultimately reduced her suspension.

This is quite different than the Sinner case, where the source of the failed tests was known almost immediately and the explanation for the ingestion was considered plausible enough by the Independent Tribunal to stay the provisional suspension until the full investigation could be completed. In the end, the three scientists (who all have decades of experience in anti-doping cases and run WADA-accredited labs in their respective countries) that adjudication the case unanimously agreed that the evidence was consistent with Sinner's story. Based on that, the Independent Tribunal issued a final ruling that Sinner bore no fault in the case and would only forfiet the points and money from Indian Wells where he tested positive (which follows the ITIA rules). When the final judgment was issued, that also was when the case was made public (again per the disclosure rules).

Both cases have completely different circumstances and there was no double standard between the two.
 

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
Poor Halep - she didn’t have a readymade story for plausible deniability ready in case she failed the drug test while Sinner’s team was able to file an appeal with their implausible story on the SAME DAY they were informed of the failed drug test. How did these guys figure out within one day exactly what happened and how the drug got into his system, hired a lawyer and filed an appeal so fast?

One case sounds like a real world incident while the other sounds like a setup. Of course, they are both stories.
 

naylor73

Rookie
Poor Halep - she didn’t have a readymade story for plausible deniability ready in case she failed the drug test while Sinner’s team was able to file an appeal with their implausible story on the SAME DAY they were informed of the failed drug test. How did these guys figure out within one day exactly what happened and how the drug got into his system, hired a lawyer and filed an appeal so fast?

One case sounds like a real world incident while the other sounds like a setup. Of course, they are both stories.
This has been my thought since hearing about this. Interesting if true that they filed the appeal and had a story ready the same day.

This whole thing stinks and imo is not a good look for professional tennis. We live in a world with so much disinformation and corruption it’s hard not to assume the worst.
 

Bogdan_TT

Hall of Fame
Sinner - "slap on hand, we understand, was not your fault, go play you littel bird you"
Halep - "you're a cheat and a disgrace, we'll suspend you for years and basically retire you early"

Double standards much?
The tennis world is as corrupt as pretty much everything these days. Shame...
 

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster
Sinner - "slap on hand, we understand, was not your fault, go play you littel bird you"
Halep - "you're a cheat and a disgrace, we'll suspend you for years and basically retire you early"

Double standards much?
The tennis world is as corrupt as pretty much everything these days. Shame...
Halep case is peculiar

First decision says there is no chance she can have accidental contamination. No chance.

Second time no idea what happened. This is corruption.
 

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster
Clearly you don't know what you're talking about.
I know what was posted when she was banned

What I don't know is how the decision turned back. She was still given a freaking NINE month ban which she had already served

Halep is guilty

Guilty guilty guilty
 
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