Sinner has ascended to World #2

Neptune

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UTR and ELO are all senseless BS invented by heavily biased Djokovic fans in order to hype up the Serbian cat and make everyone who gets destroyed by him look good.
Who is not destroyed after 2010??
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Yep, Theim is the only one with >40% H2H out of the 73 rivalries who played at least 4 matches against Nole, after 2010 until now.

So, Thiem must be the answer to your question. You agree than 58-42 does not constitute "destruction," right? Especially in a 12-match series. All it would have taken is one result going the other way, and they'd be tied at 6-6.
 

Neptune

Hall of Fame
So, Thiem must be the answer to your question. You agree than 58-42 does not constitute "destruction," right? Especially in a 12-match series. All it would have taken is one result going the other way, and they'd be tied at 6-6.
You missed the double question marks?? :-D
 

nolefam_2024

Talk Tennis Guru
Who is not destroyed after 2010??
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Wow I thought of another stat. Nole might have been goat even if he never played a pt before 2010 Davis cup.

Achievements since 2010 Davis cup.

23 slams - all time record
400 weeks at number 1 - all time record
8 year end number 1 - all time record
Tcgs - all time record
Double golden masters - all time record
6 YEC - all time record
35 masters - just 1 behind all time record
80 titles overall - easily inside top 8 and will end in top 5 as well
33 slam finals - all time record

Even with 0 pts won before 2011, Nole has only 1 area where he will lag to Nadal, masters title. He is that good since.
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
Who is not destroyed after 2010??
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The only player that played him 3 or more times during these past 13 years and has a winning record is Kyrgios. The only reason that is the case is because he didn't make it to Djokovic more times. Lol. Just pure domination yet people believe he's only doing it in 2023 because of the competition. He's been doing it pretty much for 13 years. Kudos to Thiem who has the next best record.
 
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The only player that played him 3 or more times during these past 12 years and has a winning record is Kyrgios. The only reason that is the case is because he didn't make it to Djokovic more times. Lol. Just pure domination yet people believe he's only doing it in 2023 because of the competition. He's been doing it pretty much for 12 years. Kudos to Thiem who has the next best record.

13 years.
 

nolefam_2024

Talk Tennis Guru
When bolleteleri said Nole is the most complete player he saw, he meant it.

Nole doesn't have a flaw in his game. Yes he can be beaten as would anyone else. But to dominate him, they can't exploit any flaw.
 
Simply insane.
How many ATG don't have big hole H2H even during their peak 6-year-span??

To be fair, it's really 11.5 years with a 1.5 year break (2017 and first half of 2018). (*) But definitely very impressive longevity.

* Second half of 2016 wasn't that bad at all. A drop-off to be sure but not anything worse than his worse moments in 2014. He still was runner-up at the US Open (with some luck) and Tour Finals in that time.
 
You're right, it is 13 now. I'm a year behind.

Also, it's not as though his record was bad in 2007-2010. It's true that he didn't progress much after the spring of 2008 until the start of 2011, and in some respects went slightly backwards, but he was year-end number 3 in all four of those years.
 

Neptune

Hall of Fame
To be fair, it's really 11.5 years with a 1.5 year break (2017 and first half of 2018). (*) But definitely very impressive longevity.

* Second half of 2016 wasn't that bad at all. A drop-off to be sure but not anything worse than his worse moments in 2014. He still was runner-up at the US Open (with some luck) and Tour Finals in that time.

2011-16 Nole is the most intense 6 year span you can ever see.
Average 29 matches against Top10 per year big4 era
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
Also, it's not as though his record was bad in 2007-2010. It's true that he didn't progress much after the spring of 2008 until the start of 2011, and in some respects went slightly backwards, but he was year-end number 3 in all four of those years.
Yea that's true. Still a top 3 player but just not operating at his full potential yet.
 

Neptune

Hall of Fame
Also, it's not as though his record was bad in 2007-2010. It's true that he didn't progress much after the spring of 2008 until the start of 2011, and in some respects went slightly backwards, but he was year-end number 3 in all four of those years.
Margin is usually thinner than scoreline, gluten intolerance, and check all those slam draws (on Fed side nonclay, on Rafa side clay)
 
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