Sinner - how good is he actually?

players don‘t transform magically if they are already on the pro level. sinner showed us who he is. great, yet error prone ballstriking, great return, solid serve, bad volley, bad at cat and mouse points, bad transition game, no variety whatsoever. how far such a game can bring you depends on the opposition.

Novak’s serve didn’t transform from 5.5/10 to 9/10?

Rafa’s serve didn’t improve?
Roger’s backhand didn’t improve?
 
he who adapts to the era of his time will conquer places......skinny adopts a slightly high risk game for today's standards which may not be suitable anywhere except wimbledon......he is also vulnerable to be overpowered by big hitters who can consistently put the ball back in play with interest......so that negates his chances at the other slams as well......so he has to figure out with his coach sampras-bruguera 1993 on what needs to be done to win titles in this era......
 
Go to player stat and find 2023.

To me the total number of won points is the most significant. The number has all the other numbers like serve, FH, BH etc in that piece of information. it’s the same level of Djokovic, CA and Medvedev. It’s a very good statistic.

Some statistics like winners primarily shows what kind if a player you are. You can only use those numbers to see ehat you can improve on. Total number of points won matter.

Actually those stats are telling much more. Much more that you chose not to see. Sadly, you do not win in tennis by making more points. Yo win in tennis by winning the important points.
As hard as it is. He underperforms in the important points.
 
Novak’s serve didn’t transform from 5.5/10 to 9/10?

Rafa’s serve didn’t improve?
Roger’s backhand didn’t improve?
sure, players improve, some more, some less, but they don‘t transform magically into something different. murray improved his forehand but it was still a weakness, so is tsongas backhand, raonicsbackhand, paires forehand, zverevs forehand, tsitsipas backhand etc. and they always will be a weskness at that level. it is also relevant how bad or good you are at a certain skill. you can argue that the lower the base value, the more room for improvement, but that also means that you have to improve a lot to turn a weakness to a level on which you can rely on in important matches at the highest level. and if you are not comfortable enough, you won‘t use it in tight moments (trying to finish the point at the net instead of trying to hit through your opponent endlessly at the baseline).
furthermore sinners problem is his bad touch at the net and in cat and mouse points, and how to improve that ?
i like sinner by the way, but he is who he is.

p.s. djokovic had a good serve, then it got bad after the racquet switch, and now it isn‘t that great like some are saying, so his improvement wasn‘t that big.
 
sure, players improve, some more, some less, but they don‘t transform magically into something different. murray improved his forehand but it was still a weakness, so is tsongas backhand, raonicsbackhand, paires forehand, zverevs forehand, tsitsipas backhand etc. and they always will be a weskness at that level. it is also relevant how bad or good you are at a certain skill. you can argue that the lower the base value, the more room for improvement, but that also means that you have to improve a lot to turn a weakness to a level on which you can rely on in important matches at the highest level. and if you are not comfortable enough, you won‘t use it in tight moments (trying to finish the point at the net instead of trying to hit through your opponent endlessly at the baseline).
furthermore sinners problem is his bad touch at the net and in cat and mouse points, and how to improve that ?
i like sinner by the way, but he is who he is.

p.s. djokovic had a good serve, then it got bad after the racquet switch, and now it isn‘t that great like some are saying, so his improvement wasn‘t that big.
What do you make of Wawrinka though?
 
What do you make of Wawrinka though?

he improved and won 3 grand slams. i‘m not saying that sinner will never ever win a grand slam. i‘m just saying that he is obviously not on the same level as other grand slam winners and it is highly unlikely that he will improve the weak aspects of his game in a way, that in the future he will be able to rely on these aspects to win something big.
but i hope he will improve, otherwise it will be boring.
 
he improved and won 3 grand slams. i‘m not saying that sinner will never ever win a grand slam. i‘m just saying that he is obviously not on the same level as other grand slam winners and it is highly unlikely that he will improve the weak aspects of his game in a way, that in the future he will be able to rely on these aspects to win something big.
but i hope he will improve, otherwise it will be boring.
But Stan somehow improved from a fringe top 20 player at best to a 3 time GS winner.
 
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