Sinner: ''I'm very disappointed''
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nolefam_2024
Talk Tennis Guru
These guys are doing their jobs. They have every right to appeal an appeal.
Tallawah Tennis
Rookie
Man, what a fecking joke. Like many others, I found the poor approach by the governing body in the first instance to be a blight on the system. I don't know if Jannik is guilty of deliberately using illegal substances, and thought the reasons given in his defence, questionable. But the kid was cleared, penalties imposed.
Now, the issue is resurrected. Yes, WADA have the right to appeal,but what a shambles of a system. The poor kid has it hanging over him again. Just a disgrace.
Now, the issue is resurrected. Yes, WADA have the right to appeal,but what a shambles of a system. The poor kid has it hanging over him again. Just a disgrace.
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tennis_error
Professional
Unfortunately nothing will happen... Someone can be positive twice and continue playing, someone is suspected seconds after being positive...
Isn't that the issue?
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Djokodalerer31
Hall of Fame
You think Djoko would take out Med in the final in that form? I dunno...
Razer
G.O.A.T.
Does not matter, Med is a loser. He gets no benefit of doubt.
dking68
Legend
I’m surprised this has been going on for so long, the guy can’t even play freely
InsuranceMan
Hall of Fame
TennisManiac
Hall of Fame
I believe he's innocent of any wrong doing to be honest. Nothing will come of this. It's just a show.
Sinner will not be stripped of his titles, no matter what.
Bill Lobsalot
Hall of Fame
You test positive or you don't. Now, if they want to change the rules on a minimum amount in your system to be considered effective, they can.
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Nice word play. ''Came out very positively for me.'' Indeed.
JJGUY
Hall of Fame
well, I think it's because of the egregiousness of how it was handled, Sinner received virtually no suspension at all for not just one but two doping violations, and the whole thing was hidden from the public view and no one knew about it. it's literally unheard of, WADA had to step in. In retrospect, if they had followed the "standard" procedures and more importantly, be open about it, we would have heard this on the news, Sinner was tested positive twice and a provisional suspension of 12 months or more was handed and Sinner was filing an emergency appeal... that's how things should have unfolded here. And based on what we knew now, his team and ITIA were able to resolve this in just a matter of days, again the speed here was unheard of, you can argue this is unfair or the privilege of being rich and famous, but everything would be much more acceptable, he has the resource t move things fast, and we already knew what the the outcome was, the suspension would be greatly reduced, even for 3~4 months like in similar cases, he would still be able to play USO.
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
That way he can say with a straight face that he told no lies.
Terenigma
G.O.A.T.
A substance that has a huge warning doping label on the packaging, is available only in Italy yet is kept with his team around the world and has been the subject of many doping related stories already?
NaDjoFed
Semi-Pro
yes a cream sold without prescption with zero effect on performances. Common sense. That common sense advocated by the same players in the previous doping cases, and now that the International Tribunal acts with common sense, everyone is complaining.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Sinner had no idea, how's he supposed to check every cream that his trainer uses on him topically ?? HOW,? Do you ckeck on every message oil that your messeuse uses on you every time you go and get a message ??
TheGoldenEra1990’s
Hall of Fame
No your tests came out positive LOL. Ehh I can see why he should be suspended based upon PR. It sets a bad precedent and optics. If you’re the top guy you’re ok. If you’re a bottom feeding mug you’re gone for a year or more. Ultimately it’s not fair though cause people are using creams and needles and oils all over the tour. . It’s a like P DIDDY party LOL
Icsa
Semi-Pro
We are talking #1 in the world, making millions of dollars from prizes and sponsors. Even if Sinner had no idea, he is responsible for hiring a competent team that knows what substances are banned. Players pay by suspensions for violations done by their team. See what happened to Halep who used a multi-vitamin supplement given by her trainer, a supplement that was contaminated in production and without any warnings on the label.Sinner had no idea, how's he supposed to check every cream that his trainer uses on him topically ?? HOW,? Do you ckeck on every message oil that your messeuse uses on you every time you go and get a message ??
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
That' some good Multivitamins man,,, where can i buy those ??
and for Sinner, he won Aussie open and US open fair and square because Alcarez was too tired to play even at 50 % of normal at the US open. so Sinner Earned those slams,, and nobody can dispute that
Icsa
Semi-Pro
I don't think people are disputing how good Sinner is.That' some good Multivitamins man,,, where can i buy those ??
and for Sinner, he won Aussie open and US open fair and square because Alcarez was too tired to play even at 50 % of normal at the US open. so Sinner Earned those slams,, and nobody can dispute that
The topic under discussion is that the anti-doping rules didn't apply to Sinner.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
What part didn't apply to Sinner ??? Show me the policy and statements in their Rule book
JJGUY
Hall of Fame
the real "stink" here was he was protected, no one knew about it at the time, if they were open about him being testing positive, the whole thing would be much easier for Sinner.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Yeah, but he likely gets banned in that case. Hence why it was kept secret.
Fabresque
Legend
So let’s see…
Medvedev wins the AO, Fritz wins the USO.
Dimitrov wins his 2nd ever Masters title in Miami. Tiafoe wins his 1st ever Masters title in Cincinatti.
Hurkacz wins Halle. De Minaur wins Rotterdam.
And if they find discrepancies before that from 2023, Med wins Vienna and Beijing. And I think De Minaur wins his first Masters in Canada.
Medvedev wins the AO, Fritz wins the USO.
Dimitrov wins his 2nd ever Masters title in Miami. Tiafoe wins his 1st ever Masters title in Cincinatti.
Hurkacz wins Halle. De Minaur wins Rotterdam.
And if they find discrepancies before that from 2023, Med wins Vienna and Beijing. And I think De Minaur wins his first Masters in Canada.
The Guru
Legend
His story is incredibly hard to believe. Especially when you add all the surrounding context that makes him even more suspicious outside of the already incredibly suspicious explanation. I'm not at all a big conspiracy or everyone's doping guy. But here I think the odds are not great.
RSJfan
Semi-Pro
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
On top of this, we should investigate the almost certain Medvedev's doping at USO 21.
Only a guy on potent drugs can finish the match like a dead fish.
Please deliver to Nole the USO and CYGS 2021 immediately.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
... and 2022 AO and USO 20 and WC 20.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
Dude got tested positive twice and kept playing. This is an absolute farce.
I Agree, but I don't understand what WADA has to do with tennis, or any sport. IMO, when the ATP decided to clear Sinner, they should have kept it secret.
optic yellow
Legend
Sold freely in the pharmacy in two countries with a giant sign on the side saying no doping*
IF Sinner is banned, the titles he won, would have NO winner for that year. That is what happend when Lance Armstrong's Tours Of France were taken from him, there were NO winners for those years.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
The Tour de France chose to vacate the winner's place. Given that this is a race based on time, I thought it to be the wrong decision. It could have and should have chosen otherwise.
optic yellow
Legend
You know full well they did not crown a replacement winner because of how far down the placement list they would have had to go to find a clean rider.
optic yellow
Legend
It is used for healing wounds.
Incorrect. Nothing would change. WADA is not seeking to invalidate any results. No one else is seeking that either. No one is even arguing that there's a good reason to consider invalidating any results. It's just self-perpetuating forum nonsense.
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