Sinner is playing in another world right now

[merwy]

Yeah, I want to temper my knee-jerk reaction but this level feels close to the best tennis that has ever been played. I know people will retort by listing his (lack of) titles, but I'm talking about level right now and not trophy cabinet.

Djokovic's Olympic chances not looking good. I see especially Sinner, but also Alcaraz beating him. Then you've got players like Medvedev, Zverev and Dimitrov who can also give him trouble and possibly beat him on an off-day.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

He’s an incredible player. His passing shots were insanely good especially on the BH side. He has everything and barely makes any errors. He’s a nightmare for any opponent to face. It look alcaraz magic and at his best to beat him. Sinner isnt going to lose much the way he’s playing.

It will be interesting to see what happens back on neutral surfaces though. It appears Sinner is the alpha now on hard courts in general but we don’t know what level he will bring to clay and grass this season. It will be interesting.

 

[Pheasant]

That's why I never ruled out RG for him.

We absolutely can not rule him out. Remember in 2020 when he got all of the hype for being so deadly on the dirt as a teenager? He was playing incredibly well. He stomped Goffin in straight sets with a bagel. He beat Zverev in 4. And I watched his QF match vs Nadal. He played lights out for the first two sets, then ran out of gas to lose in straights 7-6 6-4 6-1. But nobody was beating Nadal that tourney. Djoker won a total of 7 games in the final that year as Nadal.

If that version of Sinner comes back(only bigger, stronger, and with way more endurance), then he will bag a few FO titles.

The question is, why wouldn’t that version of Sinner come back?

 

[CHillTennis]

Hadnt thought about the wrist as he is still hitting very hard. I just feel Novak's demeanour all year has looked very off and i think the Alcaraz loss at W hurt him ,then the Davis Cup loss to Sinner really has affected him as in Australia he just looked out of sorts and it rumbled on into IW.

I think that something in Djokovic's personal life could be affecting his motivation, similar to what happened in 2017.

That could explain some of the sudden changes, that we've been witnessing from him, such as the increased discussions about retirement and him pulling out of Miami.

He may be suffering from burn-out.

 

[Better_Call_Raul]

Yeah, I want to temper my knee-jerk reaction but this level feels close to the best tennis that has ever been played.

Had always thought the 2012 Djoker/Nadal Australian Final was the highest level of tennis ever played.
Before that it was Sampras/Agassi, Sampras/Rafter, etc.

But 2024 Sinner level is just as good, if not better, than Big Three.

Anyone that does not appreciate Sinner does not appreciate great tennis. We are in the presence of greatness.
How could any true tennis fan not appreciate Sinner's greatness?
Grigor fanatics claim this is "Peak Grigor". If that is true Sinner has just disposed of Grigor more handily than Big Three did.

Do not understand these disrespectful dunderheads that are claiming Sinner level is clearly lower than Big Three.

Ex champion Div I player/top tennis Coach Nikola is a huge Rafa fanatic.
But Nikola says Sinner hits the most powerful heaviest balls he has ever seen.

 

[mental midget]

He’s an incredible player. His passing shots were insanely good especially on the BH side. He has everything and barely makes any errors. He’s a nightmare for any opponent to face. It look alcaraz magic and at his best to beat him. Sinner isnt going to lose much the way he’s playing.

It will be interesting to see what happens back on neutral surfaces though. It appears Sinner is the alpha now on hard courts in general but we don’t know what level he will bring to clay and grass this season. It will be interesting.

agree. he makes this level look easy but it's hard to tell what it takes out of him...winning a lot creates its own kind of fatigue, weirdly....will be interesting to see if there are any major ebbs and flows, or if he can step into that zone we saw from roger, novak, nadal where winning just becomes the habit. he's on that road for sure.

 

[Ray Mercer]

I know how it has been for him, that doesn't mean just because of two tournaments, he is done. After AO last year, the guy did nothing and then won RG....after W everyone was saying he is done....comes back and wins Cincinnati, USO, Paris and YEC. Lets not go too crazy with the knee jerk reactions.

If after USO he has failed to do anything, THEN the evidence is there. I said to you before, IW after 2016 has been a non factor in his career, yet he won 13 slams after he won his last IW title. The only big loss was the one to Sinner at AO, and considering he won AO the last four times he played it, and won three of the last four slams he played, the guy was due a loss....and again, he was in the semis. If he is losing first week in slams, come and let me know.

I agree about his mentally spent issue, I think 2023 burnt him out as he got all the records, and AO was simply too soon for him. Events like IW and Miami don't do anything for him anymore, he has said his goal is slam focused.

I think his time at number one is up, once he loses it to Sinner, that is it for him, I called that a while ago, but I don't think the greatest grand slam champion of all time is done completely winning slams. His days of dominating are over, yes, but he can still steal a slam. Not wise to write him off completely, more like wishful thinking IMO.

He might be able to steal one but I wouldn’t bet on it. Sinner hits bigger from both wings, is more offensive, just as consistent and moves better than an old Djokovic. Djokovic squeaked by Sinner a couple years ago at Wimbledon and Sinners game is on a whole other level now. I wouldn’t bet on Djokovic against either guy in a slam.

 

[Ray Mercer]

Had always thought the 2012 Djoker/Nadal Australian Final was the highest level of tennis ever played.
Before that it was Sampras/Agassi, Sampras/Rafter, etc.

But 2024 Sinner level is just as good, if not better, than Big Three.

Anyone that does not appreciate Sinner does not appreciate great tennis. We are in the presence of greatness.
How could any true tennis fan not appreciate Sinner's greatness?
Grigor fanatics claim this is "Peak Grigor". If that is true Sinner has just disposed of Grigor more handily than Big Three did.

Do not understand these disrespectful dunderheads that are claiming Sinner level is clearly lower than Big Three.

Ex champion Div I player/top tennis Coach Nikola is a huge Rafa fanatic.
But Nikola says Sinner hits the most powerful heaviest balls he has ever seen.

Leaving out Federer’s level as some of the highest ever is a joke, you should be banned for that crap.

 

[Better_Call_Raul]

Leaving out Federer’s level as some of the highest ever is a joke, you should be banned for that crap.

Dunderhead. It goes without saying that Big Three matches are included when referencing Djoker/Nadal.
But now that you raise it, the Fed/Nadal matches of 2010's, while high level, never quite reached the level of Djoker/Nadal. It is true.
You are upset that Fed matches was not mentioned. Djoker/Nada had a competitive head to head. Hence the higher level.
How can Fed's matches be higher level than Djoker/Nadal when Djoker/Nadal had a dominant head to head over Fed after 2010?

 

[Ray Mercer]

Dunderhead. It goes without saying that Big Three matches are included when referencing Djoker/Nadal.
But now that you raise it, the Fed/Nadal matches of 2010's, while high level, never quite reached the level of Djoker/Nadal. It is true.

You’re a clown to say Sinners level is better than the best produced by the big 3, especially a peak Federer. You just start following this sport or what?

 

[Better_Call_Raul]

You’re a clown to say Sinners level is better than the best produced by the big 3, especially a peak Federer. You just start following this sport or what?

Sinner is as good as any player I've seen. At least equal to Big Three. If not higher.
Roddick himself says Sinner makes shots that he has never seen. Turns defense into offense. So you've got that all wrong.
Coach Nikola says Sinner hits the heaviest ball in history.
How do you explain Roddick's appraisal?
You sound worse than Bart. Do you even play tennis?

 

[NeutralFan]

You’re a clown to say Sinners level is better than the best produced by the big 3, especially a peak Federer. You just start following this sport or what?

Give Sinner Hewitt and Sinner will make him look like a toddler

 

[Deleted member 806402]

You ready to count Djokovic out at Wimbledon? OK.

Considering that Ivanisevic is now coaching Alcaraz, I think its safe to count Novak out at Wimbledon.

 

[Deleted member 806402]

Dunderhead. It goes without saying that Big Three matches are included when referencing Djoker/Nadal.
But now that you raise it, the Fed/Nadal matches of 2010's, while high level, never quite reached the level of Djoker/Nadal. It is true.

true

 

[Deleted member 806402]

Had always thought the 2012 Djoker/Nadal Australian Final was the highest level of tennis ever played.
Before that it was Sampras/Agassi, Sampras/Rafter, etc.

But 2024 Sinner level is just as good, if not better, than Big Three.

Anyone that does not appreciate Sinner does not appreciate great tennis. We are in the presence of greatness.
How could any true tennis fan not appreciate Sinner's greatness?
Grigor fanatics claim this is "Peak Grigor". If that is true Sinner has just disposed of Grigor more handily than Big Three did.

Do not understand these disrespectful dunderheads that are claiming Sinner level is clearly lower than Big Three.

Ex champion Div I player/top tennis Coach Nikola is a huge Rafa fanatic.
But Nikola says Sinner hits the most powerful heaviest balls he has ever seen.

Sinner uses Deuterium, a heavy hydrogen isotope, in the nuclear reactor that powers his shots.
That's how he hits such a heavy ball.

 

[Deleted member 806402]

agree. he makes this level look easy but it's hard to tell what it takes out of him...winning a lot creates its own kind of fatigue, weirdly....will be interesting to see if there are any major ebbs and flows, or if he can step into that zone we saw from roger, novak, nadal where winning just becomes the habit. he's on that road for sure.

That's where his "boring personality" kicks in.
Engineered for relentlessness and continued success.

 

[FeroBango]

We absolutely can not rule him out. Remember in 2020 when he got all of the hype for being so deadly on the dirt as a teenager? He was playing incredibly well. He stomped Goffin in straight sets with a bagel. He beat Zverev in 4. And I watched his QF match vs Nadal. He played lights out for the first two sets, then ran out of gas to lose in straights 7-6 6-4 6-1. But nobody was beating Nadal that tourney. Djoker won a total of 7 games in the final that year as Nadal.

If that version of Sinner comes back(only bigger, stronger, and with way more endurance), then he will bag a few FO titles.

The question is, why wouldn’t that version of Sinner come back?

Thank you for saying this. I'm deeply perplexed at how the Sinner is being dismissed on clay.

He's been my top 2 favorite this year for RG for sometime now and why not?

 

[NeutralFan]

Thank you for saying this. I'm deeply perplexed at how the Sinner is being dismissed on clay.

He's been my top 2 favorite this year for RG for sometime now and why not?

True, If Nadal is not playing he's absolute favourite for RG , imo if he's playing his best then he can beat a decent Nadal as well

 

[ForehandCross]

You people do Realize Djokovic 2011 and 2015 was going through Prime Fedal in the sunshine double right? There's legit no comparison. And Fraud 2005 had BO5 finals to tone down his overall RPW and DR.

 

[NeutralFan]

You people do Realize Djokovic 2011 and 2015 was going through Prime Fedal in the sunshine double right? There's legit no comparison. And Fraud 2005 had BO5 finals to tone down his overall RPW and DR.

2015 had prime Fedal? Son you're okay? Give me the stuff you're smoking

 

[ForehandCross]

2015 had prime Fedal? Son you're okay? Give me the stuff you're smoking

I don't smoke, but I do have to breathe in Delhi air which is one of the most polluted on Earth, will happy to exchange with whatever it is that you have.

 

[NeutralFan]

I don't smoke, but I do have to breathe in Delhi air which is one of the most polluted on Earth, will happy to exchange with whatever it is that you have.

You can have smoke happily you want but how on earth Fedal were in prime in 2015? Even in 2011 only Rafa was in his prime but also had a strong Fed.

 

[Razer]

I don't smoke, but I do have to breathe in Delhi air which is one of the most polluted on Earth, will happy to exchange with whatever it is that you have.

Are you an Indian ?

 

[Razer]

Sinner is as good as any player I've seen. At least equal to Big Three. If not higher.
Roddick himself says Sinner makes shots that he has never seen. Turns defense into offense. So you've got that all wrong.
Coach Nikola says Sinner hits the heaviest ball in history.
How do you explain Roddick's appraisal?
You sound worse than Bart. Do you even play tennis?

Are you a stand-up comedian ?

Everything you've written is nonsense, Sinner as good as BIg 3 ?? If not higher ? hahahahah ....

 

[NeutralFan]

Are you a stand-up comedian ?

Everything you've written is nonsense, Sinner as good as BIg 3 ?? If not higher ? hahahahah ....

With his improved movement ( he's still not moving as fast as Z or Med ) for his height he can be a monster. his best is yet to come.

 

[mahatma]

It's going to get crazy in the coming months. Sinner could start reaching incredible levels, and Alcaraz might be right there with him.

Only Djokovic might play spoiler and take a slam, likely Wimbledon.

If Djokovic wins a slam this year with Sinner and Alcaraz looking quite good, there won't be any case left for Sinner or Alcaraz to be GOATs ever.

It should not happen that Djokovic wins anymore slam with this competition. If he does, the already bullet proof resume becomes invincible.

 

[messiahrobins]

I think that something in Djokovic's personal life could be affecting his motivation, similar to what happened in 2017.

That could explain some of the sudden changes, that we've been witnessing from him, such as the increased discussions about retirement and him pulling out of Miami.

He may be suffering from burn-out.

I agree, it definitely is something personal. I do wonder about his marriage.

 

[mental midget]

Thank you for saying this. I'm deeply perplexed at how the Sinner is being dismissed on clay.

He's been my top 2 favorite this year for RG for sometime now and why not?

yep. with his movement looking pretty solid, and the rest of his game...repeatable groundies for days, with power to hit through the court, and serve accuracy improving...i don't see him being an easy out, that's for sure.

 

[sportsfan1]

yep. with his movement looking pretty solid, and the rest of his game...repeatable groundies for days, with power to hit through the court, and serve accuracy improving...i don't see him being an easy out, that's for sure.

If sinner doesn't have the post first slam funk like carlos and even novak way back, he looks like he could be a legit dominant number one. It's way past time for the new gen to take over and refresh tennis.

 

[Impetus]

Headline: Sinner is playing in another world right now

Good. I say he can stay in that world and come back after Wimbledon.

 

[Move]

@CHillTennis son still not impressed?

Nah ... berdych 2.0

 

[Tshooter]

Are you a stand-up comedian ?

Everything you've written is nonsense, Sinner as good as BIg 3 ?? If not higher ? hahahahah ....

If you recall my favorite Raul’s over-the-top Radacanu post-USO win material then you will recognize this is standard Raul S.J. material. He gets very excited about new-ish players. His enthusiastic posts are preferable to his sourpuss whiny posts. But they should be taken with a huge grain of salt.

 

[Move]

And peak Sinner still can't beat Alcaraz.
The gap will be greater on clay.

Did you watch Umag 2022 ? Both not at their prime but it was entertaining as hell