Sinner joins Kuerten in number of weeks at No. 1 and becomes 13th in the all-time rankings

[dking68]

I was referencing what you said though ….believe you said “mark it down “

 

[Mainad]

Djokovic 2020?

He wasn't suspended, just banned from entering Australia.

 

[Third Serve]

Still blows my mind Becker had so few weeks at #1.

Well, it doesn’t blow my mind when I consider how insanely competitive that era was, but given the caliber of player he was, 13 is so low for him.

 

[Mainad]

Still blows my mind Becker had so few weeks at #1.

Well, it doesn’t blow my mind when I consider how insanely competitive that era was, but given the caliber of player he was, 13 is so low for him.

It's worse than you think. He only had 12.

 

[Winner Sinner]

Sinner is 2-3 in surfaces that favor Carlos. You’re forgetting Indian wells which is a slow hard court.

On faster surfaces, sinner is 2-3 winning Miami and Beijing 2023. Losing at Paris, USO and Beijing 2024 final.

I'm not forgetting anything, Indian Wells like Beijing is a medium-slow but hard surface.
On natural surfaces Sinner leads the h2h by 2-1.

 

[Third Serve]

It's worse than you think. He only had 12.

Yeah my bad, I accidentally read the number above it

 

[Bartelby]

Sinner is truly miraculous. He breaks records even without playing. Tomic and Kyrgios tried this trick without success.

 

[Rovesciarete]

huge gap between no 5 and no 8, and between no 1 and no 2.

Power law...

 

[Enceladus]

This topic belongs in Sinner News. If Sinner had reached 100th week or 200th week at 1st place, then I would understand the need for a separate thread, but celebrating Guga's equalization is ridiculous.

 

[dking68]

I was referencing what you said though ….believe you said “mark it down “

Didn’t I say if he doesn’t win this year he wins one of the next 5 editions?

 

[ChrisJR3264]

Don’t re

Didn’t I say if he doesn’t win this year he wins one of the next 5 editions?

you sefinitely didn’t say within the next 5 years. He’s already 23.
Mensik and Fonseca will have much more upside to win.

 

[dking68]

Don’t re

you sefinitely didn’t say within the next 5 years. He’s already 23.
Mensik and Fonseca will have much more upside to win.

I don’t know as yet. But just remember there was a talented, yet slamless player who won his first masters(and only masters) at age 19, 20 years ago who was also Czech.

 

[PedrosCousin]

Sinner and iga are achieving a lot and too many haters, justified or not.

Since there's justification for both you can't really say there's too many. I don't hate either but I understand why others do.

 

[johnmccabe]

Since there's justification for both you can't really say there's too many. I don't hate either but I understand why others do.

no one has to like/fan anyone. less haters always better.

 

[ghostofMecir]

Are we going to have one of these every week?

Yes, along with 6-7 other threads started by the OP.

 

[PedrosCousin]

no one has to like/fan anyone. less haters always better.

Sure, but you can't control who likes/hates anyone. Really it's pointless to even comment on it. Saying there are too many haters won't change anything. People will say what they want about whomever they want. If "hate" bothers you, then that's a you problem. You can control how you react. I recommend the "water off a duck's back" method.

 

[johnmccabe]

Really it's pointless to even comment on it. Saying there are too many haters won't change anything.

by that standard, this whole subforum is pointless. which comment here actually changed anything?

 

[johnmccabe]

People will say what they want about whomever they want.

but you are saying I'm not allowed to say what I think of haters. doesn't it feel a little double standard to you?

 

[PedrosCousin]

by that standard, this whole subforum is pointless. which comment here actually changed anything?

I would agree if every comment was about "too many haters", which they're not.

but you are saying I'm not allowed to say what I think of haters. doesn't it feel a little double standard to you?

??? I didn't say that at all. You can say whatever you want. I said it's pointless to say there are too many haters, like it's pointless to tell the wind not to blow.

You thoroughly misunderstood what I said.

 

[Carax]

Yes, along with 6-7 other threads started by the OP.

 

[johnmccabe]

I would agree if every comment was about "too many haters", which they're not.

So you are fine with all the comments that don't change anything and they are not pointless to you. But you apparently have issues with my comments hoping for fewer haters. May I ask? Are you a hater?

 

[PedrosCousin]

So you are fine with all the comments that don't change anything and they are not pointless to you. But you apparently have issues with my comments hoping for fewer haters. May I ask? Are you a hater?

You clearly still don't understand what I said. And you seem to think I'm personally attacking you, which I'm not.

 

[Mainad]

Now overtaken Kuerten into 13th place. Courier is next in his sights but he has a way to go there yet (another 14 weeks) but who's to say he won't get there?

 

[dking68]

Now overtaken Kuerten into 13th place. Courier is next in his sights but he has a way to go there yet (another 14 weeks) but who's to say he won't get there?

Sinner looks like he’s going to surpass 200 weeks comfortably

 

[vive le beau jeu !]

In fact is he the only ATP #1 ranked player ever to suffer a suspension whilst still holding the rank?

McEnroe, late 1984... answer the question, j.?

 

[bogdan101]

Are the weeks as No.1 counted officially during the suspension?

 

[mehdimike]

Are the weeks as No.1 counted officially during the suspension?

Yes why not?!

 

[BorgTheGOAT]

After Kuerten, Courier is next in his sights albeit there's a bigger gap to cross there.

He will easily manage. The first one I am a little in doubt whether he will pass him is Agassi.

 

[roysid]

If sinner remains no. 1 even after 26 AO, he will be very hard to dodge.

Records will tumble and he will go to top 10 and then march for top 5

 

[MichaelNadal]

So ridiculous

 

[Sudacafan]

13.Gustavo Kuerten 43
Jannik Sinner
15.Andy Murray 41

Based on this list, we can now project that Sinner
has a real shot at achieving ATG status, especially now that he’s surpassed Murray, who ultimately failed.

 

[M4tchP0int]

Anytime Sinner beat him it wasn’t close and has dished out breadsticks. Carlos has never given Sinner any bakery products

it means nothing . Federer was giving bagels to nadal (YEC), to novak (Cincinatti) and to Murray (YEC) and lost most close sets and close matches against them ,especially against djokodal.
the fact is Sinner is not a good front runner since he managed to lose his last 3 encounters with carlos despite taking the first set. Mentally Carlos is to sinner what nadal was to federer

 

[Maddamhussein]

Based on this list, we can now project that Sinner
has a real shot at achieving ATG status, especially now that he’s surpassed Murray, who ultimately failed.

Failed?

Murray’s career at the top ended AS world number one at the age of 29.

Someone’s gonna have to explain to me where the failure is in that…

 

[Sudacafan]

Failed?

Murray’s career at the top ended AS world number one at the age of 29.

Someone’s gonna have to explain to me where the failure is in that…

@Barton

 

[GoatNo1]

huge gap between no 5 and no 8, and between no 1 and no 2.

how about no1 and no6?

sinner almost half way to rafa.

 

[DSH]

1.Novak Djokovic 428
2.Roger Federer 310
3.Pete Sampras 286
4.Ivan Lendl 270
5.Jimmy Connors 268
6.Rafael Nadal 209
7.John McEnroe 170
8.Bjorn Borg 109
9.Andre Agassi 101
10.Lleyton Hewitt 80
11.Stefan Edberg 72
12.Jim Courier 58
13.Gustavo Kuerten 43
Jannik Sinner
15.Andy Murray 41
16.Ilie Năstase 40
17.Carlos Alcaraz 36
18.Mats Wilander 20
19.Daniil Medvedev 16
20.Andy Roddick 13
21.Boris Becker 12
22.Marat Safin 9
23.John Newcombe 8
Juan Carlos Ferrero
25.Thomas Muster 6
Marcelo Rios
Yevgeny Kafelnikov
28.Carlos Moyá 2
29.Patrick Rafter 1

He has the potential to be at least a top 5 in this category.
But surpassing Djokovic's record is almost impossible.

 

[Razer]

Sinner will easily cross 200 but we don't know if he will cross Connors at 5th or not

Gap between Connors and Nadal is huge.

 

[DSH]

Sinner will easily cross 200 but we don't know if he will cross Connors at 5th or not

Gap between Connors and Nadal is huge.

The difference between Djokovic and Federer is even greater.

 

[junkieballer]

Nadal soon to be #7 for weeks at #1

 

[BorgTheGOAT]

Nadal soon to be #7 for weeks at #1

Given how often he was inured and that he was sandwiched between Fed and Djoko, 209 weeks is quite good.

 

[DSH]

Nadal soon to be #7 for weeks at #1

Nadal must be sad.

 

[DSH]

Given how often he was inured and that he was sandwiched between Fed and Djoko, 209 weeks is quite good.

Nadal without Federer as an obstacle would have easily surpassed Sampras, and Nadal without Djokovic as an obstacle would have done the same with Federer.

 

[Razer]

The difference between Djokovic and Federer is even greater.

It is, so to reach Federer's 310 it will be hard and 428 of Djoko is extremely unlikely

For me these numbers are not relevant, I don't follow the weeks stat too seriously, never did.

 

[dking68]

He has the potential to be at least a top 5 in this category.
But surpassing Djokovic's record is almost impossible.

I think he is a more talented and disciplined player than Ivan Lendl.

 

[DSH]

I think he is a more talented and disciplined player than Ivan Lendl.

Between 250 and 300 weeks as number 1 could be something that someone as disciplined and methodical as Sinner could achieve.

 

[dking68]

Between 250 and 300 weeks as number 1 could be something that someone as disciplined and methodical as Sinner could achieve.

He will surely have a greater career than Connors and Lendl. He is more improvement oriented than they ever were

 

[Gastino]

He will surely have a greater career than Connors and Lendl. He is more improvement oriented than they ever were

It's almost a guarntee for me at this point barring major injury

 

[dking68]

It's almost a guarntee for me at this point barring major injury

And dare I say Tilden

 

[Shaolin]

Yet he lacks even 1% of Kuerten's coolness.

 

[Gastino]

And dare I say Tilden

I'm clueless about the amateur era