Sinner must be stopped

Must the Sinner be stopped?

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travlerajm said:
I don’t dislike Sinner. But let’s be honest. The guy looks awkward when he squats to pop up a low volley.

It’s just difficult for me to come to terms with a Wimbledon champion who doesn’t volley like a fiend.

Historically, we’ve been saved from such a fate:

Mac, Becker, Cash, and Edberg saved us from Lendl (whose volleys were outright genius compared to today’s kids’).

Federer faithfully did his job to deny volley-poor Andy of taking home a title trophy.

Rafa made sure Big Berd didn’t win with his putrid oafish net game.

Later Muzz helped make sure servebot Milos couldn’t serve his way to a title with his NextGen net game.

And finally Djoker served as gatekeeper to keep ugly volleyers like Berry and Shapo from reaching the promised land.

Who will step up and protect the hallowed Wimbledon tradition of grasscourt net prowess from being blemished by a Sinner victory?
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Fact, sinner has not volley,but who nowadays has volley like Mahut,Federer,llorda?!...

After all, to have something you have to do it, you don't have the habit of learning only on grass surfaces, you need to win, and not in full form...

It is known that players no longer play serve and volley, but I wonder if they play at the net less and less every year?!

I don't have full statistics, and saying that it's visible to the naked eye makes no sense...

Coming back to Sinner, he may also have too long legs, and which is not helpful for low volleys, Sinner is also too stiff at the net...

Yes, he could improve and play at a good level of volleys, but he probably does not have a natural predisposition to play at the net..
 
landcookie said:
Of course the Soderling win counted. It is deeply etched into history books and is his claim to fame.

Rafa “only” has 2 Wimbys because he is not a natural grass courter like Fed or another certain third wheel.

Had their ages been the same, 18 yo Rafa would wipe the floor with 18 yo Fed. 24 yo Rafa would wipe the floor with 24 yo Fed. Their rate of progress was astoundingly different. Age, and the experience that came with it, was actually Roger’s greatest asset against Rafa.

Can you imagine a 20 yo Fed trying to take a xcourt backhand at shoulder height from Rafa’s forehand? His arm would’ve fallen off.

Roger, a self confessed baseliner, has admitted to the need to evolve into the all court player he is today because he knew going toe to toe with Rafa (and Novak) on the baseline is a one way dead end.
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18 year old or 19 yr old versions of Fedal would never face each other at any big tournament because Fed was a mug until 03 when he turned 22. 2003 Fed is good enough to thrash 2008 Nadal on Grass, so Nadal gets not much chance to mop anything.

Ohh Roger already had a huge disadvantage of NOT facing Nadal early, in his peak years when he should have been forced to improvise he was up against guys who could not test him a lot, this actually cost Fed many slams later on, it was actually detrimental to Fed. Fed would largely benefit if he was forced to know Nadal during his teen years instead of mid 20s. Big difference, it is easier to adapt when you are young than when you are old, can't teach an old dog new tricks. Fed after his prime had begun was not even able to change his racquet, meeting Rafa years earlier in teen years would make him

Nadal was that cancer for which Fed started his chemotherapy as late as Stage 4, had they been on same age then Fed would detected this Nadal problem in teen years itself and started chemo at stage 1 and cured it by shifting to a proper racquet that gave him adequate power and control on his backhand.
 
NeutralFan said:
Naah beating Wenger's Arsenal 6-0 is ultimate proof of dominance and then you lost 2-1 to Barca that means your level wasn't same?lol. El Clasico , BM matches don't determine true level but a thrashing of B or C tier club does.
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:)
 
Kralingen said:
Incredible post OP I agree 10/10.

Iga and him are tennis robots sent to kill interest.
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Some species go extinct, new species take over. Just like tennis fans. Sinner and iga bring plenty of new interests. you have never said RIP to old interests at some point in the past 20 years?
 
Sinner has the physical edge now… but it feels like Meddy may be able to still tap into his mental edge from when he was his daddy early in the rivalry.
 
travlerajm said:
Sinner has the physical edge now… but it feels like Meddy may be able to still tap into his mental edge from when he was his daddy early in the rivalry.
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Medvedev clearly has the mental edge that last FH into the net was Sinner throwing a spoiled brat hissy fit his previous shot didn't win the point.
 
coolbh6 said:
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Paul probably is the best volleyer out of the players left, but he rarely plays that style of game. I think Alcaraz and Djokovic would be good volleyers but they typically don't play that style either.
 
I really don't mind who, Sinner, or the rest of the bunch making it to the final and winning it these days. Like none of them, old gen like Djoko, or lost gen or current new gen, have the volley and net game artistry that graced the wimbledon courts anymore since Fed was gone, and he was about the last that was also watched for his volleys on these lawns.
 
Matches like these remind me of the incident when Med called Tsits a small boy who doesn’t know how to fight.

He may be skinny, but he’s much tougher than his fellow skinnymen Z, Tsits, and Sinner.
 
jhick said:
Big Ivo Karlovic and Dustin Brown were probably the last of the true S&V. I suppose you could add Cressy to that list. Ivo was the only one consistently ranked inside the top 40.
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Sasha's older bro Mischa was all about that S&V life, yo. One of the best volleyers on tour, which is why it's hilarious Sasha's so lousy at net (albeit slowly improving).
 
Only WADA can stop him. Alcaraz is too inconsistent, prone to upsets and the rest of the tour is awful If anything beginning next year sinner will begin domination of 3 of the 4 slams
 
jhick said:
Paul probably is the best volleyer out of the players left, but he rarely plays that style of game. I think Alcaraz and Djokovic would be good volleyers but they typically don't play that style either.
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Paul the best volleyer? Really?
 
jhick said:
Yep. I can't remember who, but watched him beat a high level player by playing serve & volley, and chip and charge returning. He just doesn't do it that often.
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Feel like Alcaraz and the Canadians could give him a run for his money
 
travlerajm said:
I don’t dislike Sinner. But let’s be honest. The guy looks awkward when he squats to pop up a low volley.

It’s just difficult for me to come to terms with a Wimbledon champion who doesn’t volley like a fiend.

Historically, we’ve been saved from such a fate:

Mac, Becker, Cash, and Edberg saved us from Lendl (whose volleys were outright genius compared to today’s kids’).

Federer faithfully did his job to deny volley-poor Andy of taking home a title trophy.

Rafa made sure Big Berd didn’t win with his putrid oafish net game.

Later Muzz helped make sure servebot Milos couldn’t serve his way to a title with his NextGen net game.

And finally Djoker served as gatekeeper to keep ugly volleyers like Berry and Shapo from reaching the promised land.

Who will step up and protect the hallowed Wimbledon tradition of grasscourt net prowess from being blemished by a Sinner victory?
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Jannik Sinner is the Tony Hawk of the tennis world. He has a solid game with great results, week in and week out, but he's not at all what the tennis fans want to see.
 
travlerajm said:
I don’t dislike Sinner. But let’s be honest. The guy looks awkward when he squats to pop up a low volley.

It’s just difficult for me to come to terms with a Wimbledon champion who doesn’t volley like a fiend.

Historically, we’ve been saved from such a fate:

Mac, Becker, Cash, and Edberg saved us from Lendl (whose volleys were outright genius compared to today’s kids’).

Federer faithfully did his job to deny volley-poor Andy of taking home a title trophy.

Rafa made sure Big Berd didn’t win with his putrid oafish net game.

Later Muzz helped make sure servebot Milos couldn’t serve his way to a title with his NextGen net game.

And finally Djoker served as gatekeeper to keep ugly volleyers like Berry and Shapo from reaching the promised land.

Who will step up and protect the hallowed Wimbledon tradition of grasscourt net prowess from being blemished by a Sinner victory
Click to expand...
travlerajm said:
I don’t dislike Sinner. But let’s be honest. The guy looks awkward when he squats to pop up a low volley.

It’s just difficult for me to come to terms with a Wimbledon champion who doesn’t volley like a fiend.

Historically, we’ve been saved from such a fate:

Mac, Becker, Cash, and Edberg saved us from Lendl (whose volleys were outright genius compared to today’s kids’).

Federer faithfully did his job to deny volley-poor Andy of taking home a title trophy.

Rafa made sure Big Berd didn’t win with his putrid oafish net game.

Later Muzz helped make sure servebot Milos couldn’t serve his way to a title with his NextGen net game.

And finally Djoker served as gatekeeper to keep ugly volleyers like Berry and Shapo from reaching the promised land.

Who will step up and protect the hallowed Wimbledon tradition of grasscourt net prowess from being blemished by a Sinner victory?
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don't get you. like Djokovic could volley at all until last five or so years. Did Agassi win in 1992? did Agassi ever learn to volley? he did not. i guess Hewitt was a bit better, but only a bit.

In any event, Wimbledon not going to be so easy for Sinner. Novak 2025. Heck, Grigor capable of taking Sinner at this year's edition.

Alcaraz-Garfia. Khachanov is good at Wimbledon, and Shelton should be. They have decent volleys. Fonseca, Fils, Humbert? Even Musetti could upset his countryman at All -England. And so too Tommy Paul.
 
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