Sinner: "Tiafoe Went Too Far"

Arak

Hall of Fame
He did exactly the same with Zverev. It didn’t work. At one time, when Zverev was serving, Tiafoe was giving him a big smile, so Zverev started laughing and couldn’t serve, and had to restart his routine. When Zverev was hitting aces in succession, Tiafoe stood with his back to the wall to receive, and made the crowd laugh as well. I think sometimes it even works against him like when he stopped returning on a couple of serves and was just watching the ball and making faces.
 

beltsman

Legend
I watched the Sinner match and was surprised by Tiafoe’s gesture after the point. It was so late after the point, it clearly wasn’t reactionary, and was borderline threatening towards Sinner. I’m a big Tiafoe fan too, I think he just got lost in the moment. No question a poor decision on Tiafoes part at the end of the day.
Video?
 
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Deleted member 770948

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Black mamba rollin' in his grave. Garter snake mental game.

But Kobe was too soft to say that from close range, because Kobe was scared of Dwight. Kobe only said "soft" when they were far away from each other....
And Dwight elbowed Kobe, and Kobe never retaliated, never threw a punch or did anything physical.....so again, Kobe looked soft.
 

Booger

Hall of Fame
But Kobe was too soft to say that from close range, because Kobe was scared of Dwight. Kobe only said "soft" when they were far away from each other....
And Dwight elbowed Kobe, and Kobe never retaliated, never threw a punch or did anything physical.....so again, Kobe looked soft.

lol please. Dwight is well known for being a crybaby. Kobe is one of the most competitive athletes who ever lived.
 

Kralingen

Legend
But Kobe was too soft to say that from close range, because Kobe was scared of Dwight. Kobe only said "soft" when they were far away from each other....
And Dwight elbowed Kobe, and Kobe never retaliated, never threw a punch or did anything physical.....so again, Kobe looked soft.
Kobe never looked soft (well except that one incident with Chris Childs, but we don’t need to talk about that LOL)

This is the only Kobe Dwight moment you need to be aware of:
 

NAS

Hall of Fame
Coming from Tiafoe fan but that reaction was unwanted, he do went far, break a racquet if you loose a point but threatening other player with that gesture is wrong without any provocation
 

Rosstour

Legend
Can we see the threatening gesture?

I agree that he didn't come off as totally sorry, but I didn't catch the intimidation.

edit--I posted just before NAS did. And yes that is too far. More aggressive than when RodDick actually threw his racquet at Fed.
 

NAS

Hall of Fame
Can we see the threatening gesture?

I agree that he didn't come off as totally sorry, but I didn't catch the intimidation.
Above video after one minute, maybe Tiafoe don't meant anything but anybody can interpret that as threatening
 

topher

Hall of Fame
I didn’t find it threatening but it was a failed attempt at humour. It wasn’t funny at all.
It seemed like something that would be funny in an exho. In a real match it’s just strange.

I don’t think Sinner took it seriously, he clearly gave a smile. But perhaps in hindsight he didn’t appreciate the distracting and showboating. Tiafoe took Sinner’s incredible shot and made it about himself.

But Sinner probably doesn’t care if he won. Clowns are always funny as long as the joke’s on them, not on you.
 

Arak

Hall of Fame
It seemed like something that would be funny in an exho. In a real match it’s just strange.

I don’t think Sinner took it seriously, he clearly gave a smile. But perhaps in hindsight he didn’t appreciate the distracting and showboating. Tiafoe took Sinner’s incredible shot and made it about himself.

But Sinner probably doesn’t care if he won. Clowns are always funny as long as the joke’s on them, not on you.
Absolutely. I also felt that after this incident, Sinner lost his focus. He shouldn’t have but he did.
 

Kralingen

Legend
I do think Sinner has a bit of a point here.

But try to imagine something like this happening to Pete. His opponent makes some good natured ribbing and tries to get the crowd involved.

Instead of getting broken like Sinner did, Pete would slam 4 straight aces down the T and be laughing with Tiafoe at the post-match handshake.

Levels.
 

bluetrain4

G.O.A.T.
He might have gone too far (and I am not a fan of the showmanship aspect of his attitude) but a part of being a top player is how you deal with these situations. Sinner just did not cope well and crumbled and Tiafoe had won fair and square. C'est la vie - move on....
This. I like Tiafoe and his energy, but even I roll my eyes or cringe sometimes at his antics. But he's hardly the first person in tennis to behave in a way that might bother his opponents. As long as he's within the rules, it's for them to deal with and in this one case, Sinner didn't handle it well.
 

Dolgopolov85

G.O.A.T.
Can we see the threatening gesture?

I agree that he didn't come off as totally sorry, but I didn't catch the intimidation.

edit--I posted just before NAS did. And yes that is too far. More aggressive than when RodDick actually threw his racquet at Fed.
Well I can see how it might be interpreted as that but neither Tiafoe's nor Roddick's throwing the racquet stunt were genuinely threatening at all. Both smiled when they did that to signal that it was more like "what do I have to do to win a point" and IIRC Fed simply laughed when Roddick did that. Maybe Sinner felt bad about it in retrospect in which case I would say he should look at his tennis rather than search for other reasons to blame for losing.
 

Aabye5

Hall of Fame
Well I can see how it might be interpreted as that but neither Tiafoe's nor Roddick's throwing the racquet stunt were genuinely threatening at all. Both smiled when they did that to signal that it was more like "what do I have to do to win a point" and IIRC Fed simply laughed when Roddick did that. Maybe Sinner felt bad about it in retrospect in which case I would say he should look at his tennis rather than search for other reasons to blame for losing.
Wait, was it the racquet gesture or the laugh that Sinner was upset about?
 

Dolgopolov85

G.O.A.T.
The pearl clutching. How dare someone yoke around during a PROFESSIONAL TENNIS MATCH!?



Anyone remember if Fed was mentally crushed and folded like a cheap tent after Roddick threw a racquet in his direction?

Absolutely not. Fed laughed. Both he and Roddick knew what it was about, just good natured banter. I laugh when these things come up or the fake outrage over getting hit by a tennis ball. Dude, try getting hit by a cricket ball, that's actually as hard as a rock and seriously hurts. It can and has killed very occasionally (Phil Hughes for eg). Maybe this is a side effect of tennis being so nice, so gentlemanly. All it takes is a little bit of attitude for lots of upset to go around.
 

Dolgopolov85

G.O.A.T.
The pearl clutching. How dare someone yoke around during a PROFESSIONAL TENNIS MATCH!?



Anyone remember if Fed was mentally crushed and folded like a cheap tent after Roddick threw a racquet in his direction?

Here's the video:


Fed himself was playing up the crowd and taking in the applause. Roddick didn't actually fling it real fast at him, he slid it down the floor. There was no way it was going to hit Fed. Fed picked up the racquet and gave it to him.
 

Dolgopolov85

G.O.A.T.
I do think Sinner has a bit of a point here.

But try to imagine something like this happening to Pete. His opponent makes some good natured ribbing and tries to get the crowd involved.

Instead of getting broken like Sinner did, Pete would slam 4 straight aces down the T and be laughing with Tiafoe at the post-match handshake.

Levels.
Sampras was what they call Based these days. Just wham bam thank you ma'am, GSM.
 
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Booger

Hall of Fame
Did any of you guys actually see the match live? Threatening? It was so clearly a joke at the time, the commentators were laughing too. It was something a friend would do...maybe over the top but it wasn't in the least aggressive or threatening.

I actually hit balls at my friends. No faking. Most are trained to immediately duck and cover if they smoke a winner by me.
 

Drob

Professional
I watched the Sinner match and was surprised by Tiafoe’s gesture after the point. It was so late after the point, it clearly wasn’t reactionary, and was borderline threatening towards Sinner. I’m a big Tiafoe fan too, I think he just got lost in the moment. No question a poor decision on Tiafoes part at the end of the day.
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it was not threatening - it was a joke
 

McEncock

Semi-Pro
Can we see the threatening gesture?

I agree that he didn't come off as totally sorry, but I didn't catch the intimidation.

edit--I posted just before NAS did. And yes that is too far. More aggressive than when RodDick actually threw his racquet at Fed.
I feel it was a joke - and a fair compliment, btw, exactly like when Roddick thrown his racquet, like : "Get out of here, you are too good!"

I feel Sinner is pretty uptight, especially for a young person. In fact, he is my least favorite Italian tennis player.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
I feel it was a joke - and a fair compliment, btw, exactly like when Roddick thrown his racquet, like : "Get out of here, you are too good!"

I feel Sinner is pretty uptight, especially for a young person. In fact, he is my least favorite Italian tennis player.
I always have to remind myself that he is Italian. I tend to think of him as Austrian or German (which is where his ethnic roots hence his name are and German is his first language).
 

Rosstour

Legend
I feel it was a joke - and a fair compliment, btw, exactly like when Roddick thrown his racquet, like : "Get out of here, you are too good!"

I feel Sinner is pretty uptight, especially for a young person. In fact, he is my least favorite Italian tennis player.
I'm sure he intended it as a joke, but I can see how it might have made Sinner flinch a bit, it was pretty quick
 

Picmun

Hall of Fame
The pearl clutching. How dare someone yoke around during a PROFESSIONAL TENNIS MATCH!?



Anyone remember if Fed was mentally crushed and folded like a cheap tent after Roddick threw a racquet in his direction?

That's a great Video @Booger, thank you.
 
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