Sith Lord Showdown at USO19?

MasturB

Legend
This is pretty cool.

I can't even remember when was the last time if ever Uniqlo gave Kay or Nolan a black 2 piece outfit like this.


Even though I'm not a Novak fan, I was a huge fan of his Sergio Tacchini outfits. Especially the one he had that was like red and black and gold with the dragon
 
Wait hold up here...Fed is red and Nadal is purple...Windu is purple and Palpatine is red...

and Windu was thrown off the building by Palpatine tricking him with lightning...

Truth hurts. :p

But in the end, Palpatine (Fed) gets thrown down a tube by Djoker, so we both lose.
 

Sephiroth

Professional
Anyway I always loved the original trilogy of Star Wars and was so-so with the prequels (I've gained more respect for them now)...both infinite times better than the current SJW infested Star Wars.
 

Third Serve

Hall of Fame
Anyway I always loved the original trilogy of Star Wars and was so-so with the prequels (I've gained more respect for them now)...both infinite times better than the current SJW infested Star Wars.
I thought Revenge of the Sith was actually one of the better Star Wars movies. I thought I was in the minority but I see there are some others who have come to appreciate it more.
 

MeatTornado

Legend
I thought Revenge of the Sith was actually one of the better Star Wars movies. I thought I was in the minority but I see there are some others who have come to appreciate it more.
It's mind blowing to me that we've had so many SW movies by now that I actually agree RotS is one of the "better" films now. It used to just be the best of the worst when it was only originals and prequels.
 

Sephiroth

Professional
I thought Revenge of the Sith was actually one of the better Star Wars movies. I thought I was in the minority but I see there are some others who have come to appreciate it more.
Revenge of the Sith was the best film from the prequels and right up there with the OT.

The recent rehashes and character assassinations star wars made me realize at least the prequels was something trying to be different and no just a rehash of the original trilogy. Still films like Attack of the clones sucked raw ass and like half of the Phanton Menace bored me to tears.

But I'd take that over Luke Skywalker milking a cow for sure.
 

Third Serve

Hall of Fame
Revenge of the Sith was the best film from the prequels and right up there with the OT.

The recent rehashes and character assassinations star wars made me realize at least the prequels was something trying to be different and no just a rehash of the original trilogy. Still films like Attack of the clones sucked raw ass and 80% of the Phanton Menace bored me to tears.

But I'd take that over Luke Skywalker milking a cow for sure.
Darth Maul saved TPM from being worse than AotC, but I agree. Based on overall film quality, I’d pick the newer movies over most of the prequel trilogy, but as Star Wars experiences there is a gap a mile wide and we all know where it stands.
 

SaintPetros

Professional
Surely the stars have aligned and these Darth-inspired kits will finally give us the US Open match we have all been dreaming about... the galaxy needs it!


Nah, if Nadal is playing well then I have a feeling poor Rogi will suffer another "freak" loss before they meet.
 
Random observation about those Palpatine saber battles: the editing sucked. In both of them.

1. The script states that Yoda disarms him, and I think that that is heavily implied in the film, too, as they are engaged in a lightsaber duel when the pods leave the anteroom, but then it cuts to Obi-Wan and Anakin, and when we come back to them, Yoda still has his lightsaber, Palpatine's is never seen again, and Palpatine is throwing pods at him. But we don't see Yoda disarm him, and that's a significant omission.
2. In the scene you linked to, when Mace first disarms Palpatine, he puts his saber right at Palpatine's throat. It's a couple of inches from him, implying that Mace could easily lean forward and decapitate him if he wished, before Palpatine had time to shoot lightning at him. However, it then cuts to Anakin, and when it comes back to Mace and Palpatine, Palpatine is several feet away from Mace in the corner of the window, making it seem that it would be more difficult for Mace to kill him. This makes a significant difference to how one interprets the scene and the famous debate about what really happened in it. If Mace were as close to Palpatine as the first shot implies, then either Palpatine didn't throw the lightsaber duel or his strategy was really high risk. If Palpatine were as far away as the second shot implies, then Palpatine throwing the duel is more plausible and/or his strategy was not as high risk as in the first shot. Here's the scene:
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Check out how much more distance between the two there is at 2:31/2:32 than at 2:24/2:25.
It's really sloppy production.
 

Sephiroth

Professional
Random observation about those Palpatine saber battles: the editing sucked. In both of them.

1. The script states that Yoda disarms him, and I think that that is heavily implied in the film, too, as they are engaged in a lightsaber duel when the pods leave the anteroom, but then it cuts to Obi-Wan and Anakin, and when we come back to them, Yoda still has his lightsaber, Palpatine's is never seen again, and Palpatine is throwing pods at him. But we don't see Yoda disarm him, and that's a significant omission.
2. In the scene you linked to, when Mace first disarms Palpatine, he puts his saber right at Palpatine's throat. It's a couple of inches from him, implying that Mace could easily lean forward and decapitate him if he wished, before Palpatine had time to shoot lightning at him. However, it then cuts to Anakin, and when it comes back to Mace and Palpatine, Palpatine is several feet away from Mace in the corner of the window, making it seem that it would be more difficult for Mace to kill him. This makes a significant difference to how one interprets the scene and the famous debate about what really happened in it. If Mace were as close to Palpatine as the first shot implies, then either Palpatine didn't throw the lightsaber duel or his strategy was really high risk. If Palpatine were as far away as the second shot implies, then Palpatine throwing the duel is more plausible and/or his strategy was not as high risk as in the first shot. Here's the scene:
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Check out how much more distance between the two there is at 2:31/2:32 than at 2:24/2:25.
It's really sloppy production.
Palpatine wanted Anakin to come in and turn him further to the dark side by attacking Windu, it was all about manipulating Anakin (he can sense Anakin was coming) further otherwise Palpatine's equal is only Yoda, he could've dealt with Windu by himself if he wanted.

This is clearly shown when Palpatin was fighting properly and seriously against Yoda which was on a different level vs Windu.
 
Palpatine wanted Anakin to come in and turn him further to the dark side by attacking Windu, it was all about manipulating Anakin (he can sense Anakin was coming) further otherwise Palpatine's equal is only Yoda, he could've dealt with Windu by himself if he wanted.

This is clearly shown when Palpatin was fighting properly and seriously against Yoda which was on a different level vs Windu.
I know that theory. I disagree with it (to some extent), but that's not the point I'm making. The point I'm making is that the plausibility of the theory differs across shots - it's more plausible at 2:31/2:32 than at 2:24/2:25 - and that should not be the case.
 
The plot has a hole as big as the universe, as Palpatine was at the mercy of Windu at that very moment, regardless of his intentions. In fact, considering that Windu apparently wanted to kill Palpatine without further delay, it is even worse plot development that he didn't and stood there explaining himself like a little girl, giving time for the opposite party to intervene. It makes no sense, whatever way one looks at it.

:cool:
It's not necessarily the plot. The scene can be interpreted that way, but it doesn't have to be. (I, at least, don't care what George Lucas or anyone else involved in the film has said about their interpretations of the film in interviews or tie-in books or the expanded universe or the legends or the so-called new canon or anything else. My own counsel will I keep on how to interpret that scene, and every other scene. I would like to hear/read the views of others, including your good self, but, ultimately, I will decide for myself on my preferred interpretation).

But I agree that, if that is the plot, it is a bad plot. That's partly why I believe that Mace Windu defeated Palpatine.
 

Sephiroth

Professional
I know that theory. I disagree with it (to some extent), but that's not the point I'm making. The point I'm making is that the plausibility of the theory differs across shots - it's more plausible at 2:31/2:32 than at 2:24/2:25 - and that should not be the case.
It's not a theory it's obvious Palpatine wanted Anakin to see the Jedis were bad he was trying to make Windu look like the bad guy in all this since Anakin was gullible and easily manipulated by Palpatine, that's why Palpatine was acting all innocent then only struck him with serious lightning after Anakin laid a hand on Windu, hence Palpatine smiled and got what he wanted which was forcing Anakin further to the dark side, Palpatine had him on a string and those time stamps don't mean anything, just a poor directing error and it's not the first error either.
 

er4claw

Rookie
Palpatine wanted Anakin to come in and turn him further to the dark side by attacking Windu, it was all about manipulating Anakin (he can sense Anakin was coming) further otherwise Palpatine's equal is only Yoda, he could've dealt with Windu by himself if he wanted.

This is clearly shown when Palpatin was fighting properly and seriously against Yoda which was on a different level vs Windu.
Palpatine was controlling everyone and everything all the time, he was even controlling the elevator that almost crushed anakin.
 
It's not a theory it's obvious Palpatine wanted Anakin to see the Jedis were bad he was trying to make Windu look like the bad guy in all this since Anakin was gullible and easily manipulated by Palpatine, that's why Palpatine was acting all innocent then only struck him with serious lightning after Anakin laid a hand on Windu, hence Palpatine smiled and got what he wanted which was forcing Anakin further to the dark side, Palpatine had him on a string and those time stamps don't mean anything, just a poor directing error and it's not the first error either.
We agree that it's a poor directing error. We disagree on the obviousness of the theory. As I said, it was the first one that I brought up. The second one has been discussed to death on numerous forums. I participated in such discussions in 2005 and 2006, and they were never resolved to anyone's satisfaction, so I don't see much point reopening them now. But all I'll say is that the true deviousness of Palpatine is not in concocting a brilliant plan but in laying out so many plans that, even if almost all of them went wrong, he could still gain power in the end. (We know some of his plans go wrong - as just one very obvious example, he planned on Obi-Wan dying in the duel with Dooku, but that didn't happen). That means that his plan for the duel was multifaceted. He wanted Anakin to turn. He didn't know in advance exactly how he would engineer that. At least in my view.
 
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