Six biggest chances for Fedal clash at the US Open

Which of these hypothetical Fedal USO clashes do you regret the most?

  • 2008 F

    Votes: 3 7.1%
  • 2009 F

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 2010 F

    Votes: 11 26.2%
  • 2011 F

    Votes: 23 54.8%
  • 2013 QF

    Votes: 2 4.8%
  • 2017 SF

    Votes: 3 7.1%

  • Total voters
    42
As we know they have never met at the Flushing Meadows and probably will never meet there in the future.

2008 - 2 sets away :mad:
Federer was already waiting in the final
but Nadal lost his SF to Murray 1-3

2009 - 3 sets away :(
Nadal lost the SF to Del Potro 0-3
Federer advanced to the final 4 hours later

2010 - 1 point away :mad::mad::mad:
Nadal
was already waiting in the final
but Federer wasted 2 MPs to be defeated by Djokovic

2011 - 1 point away :mad::mad::mad:
Federer
wasted 2 MPs to be defeated by Djokovic again
Nadal advanced to the final 3 hours later

2013 - 3 sets away :(
Federer lost the 4R to Robredo 0-3
Nadal advanced to the QF 2 hours later

2017 - 2 sets away :mad:
Nadal was already waiting in the SF
but Federer lost his QF to Del Potro 1-3
 

jl809

Professional
2011 for sure.

Tbh it's good that it wasn't 2008, 2013 or 2017, where one of them was injured, knackered or out of form. 2013 would have been... quite something. The Nadal that walked out for the Robredo match is possibly the best HC Ned I've ever seen (no joke).
 

Kralingen

G.O.A.T.
‘11 as it was the match where both were cumulatively in the best form

(Nadal off the pace in ‘08, literally injured in ‘09, Federer struggling through in ‘10, Federer obviously poor in ‘13, Fed back injury in ‘17)

2008/10 would have been second best. I do wish a healthy Fed got Nadal again in 2017 though that could have been a classic.
 
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Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
2008 for sure. Murray's first final and all, but he was not ready to comply. Feels like the most interesting scenario. Nadal taking over the feud, how would Roger react?ahhhhhhhhhhhhh ratings.

Feels like one of those speed runs. You manage to complete the game without this match at the US Open. Awk well.
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
I really wish Federer had beaten Del Potro at the USO 2017. Granted, he wasn't in top physical form and it was noticieable from the beginning (he needed 5 sets to beat Tiafoe). But that is my point, I wish he had been more in shape.

Federer had beaten Nadal in the 3 previous outdoor hard meetings in 2017 (a close encounter in the AO, and very solid victories at Indian Wells and Miami). On the other hand, Nadal had been a more succesful player at the USO in the 2010s with 2 USO titles up to that point vs. Federer's 0 USO titles in the 2010s.

Federer would be the slight favorite in that hypothetical, but considering Nadal's superior performances at the USO in the 2010s, everything could have happened. It was a nearly 50/50 match, I would say 55/45 in Federer's favor (Mike Danny, don't jump on me).

And then there is the 2011 meeting another roughly 50/50 match. But then again, in 2011 Djokovic was the man and a Fedal encounter didn't feel that special. In 2017 the Fedal rivalry was again at its peak and a meeting in Flushing Meadows would have felt more unique and iconic.
 
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Ray Mercer

Hall of Fame
You wonder how the hell Nadal got smoked by Murray like that in 08 when he was in phenomenal form. Federer made mince meat of him in the final. Federer was injured and complete garbage in 2013 so that would have been once sided.
 

ChrisRF

Legend
Actually all of them apart from maybe 2013. This match just should have happened at least once. So close so many times.

Even 2017 was very close. Federer missed 4 set points for a 2-1 lead against Del Potro.
 

StrongRule

G.O.A.T.
It's really crazy that they never met there. Almost all of these 6 missed chances were extremely surprising.

2008 - Nadal definitely played worse than earlier in the year, but not many expected him to lose to Murray.
2009 - That one was the least surprising. Given their respective forms at the time, Del Potro was the clear favorite for the semifinal.
2010 - Federer was clearly the favorite for the semifinal, especially when he was 2-1 up in sets, or had a double matchpoint.
2011 - Federer wasn't the favorite for the semifinal, but many thought he still had realistic chances. He was 2-0 up in sets, and then had a double matchpoint on serve, but choked like crazy.
2013 - Of course Federer was having one of his worst seasons, but he showed some good form in Cincinnati 1/4 final. Nadal would obviously be the heavy favorite for that 1/4 final, but I don't think anyone expected Federer to lose to Robredo. (the only time he ever lost to him)
2017 - Even if Federer was injured, he started improving his form in the third and fourth rounds. And Del Potro was 6-1 6-2 down against Thiem in the previous round with health problems, and should have never won that match. I fully expected a straight set win for Federer in that one, for sure not a loss. And again, he had his chances, but choked on the third set tiebreak.

So all but 2009 were surprising. We had Nadal losing to Murray, Federer losing from matchpoints up (once even on serve), Federer suffering his only loss to Robredo, Federer losing to Del Potro who had health problems in the previous round.
 

Standaa

G.O.A.T.
I watched live both USO 10 and 11 Fedalovic SF and after the 11 SF I literally had trouble processing that Fed once again wasted 2 MPs a second year in a row, again in the fifth set, against the same player, in the same SF of the same tournament, with Nadal again waiting in the final. It was too surreal how similar the two scenarios was.

After that I really believed Fedal is cursed at the USO.
 
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BGod

G.O.A.T.
Easiest 3+ choice poll in a while.

There's literally no argument against 2011.

Fed was resurgent but still mentally disadvantaged for Nadal. Rafa was on the downswing with his form. Should be highest quality match.

2017 if healthy Fed he wins in 4.
2010 Nadal in 5.
2008 Fed in 4 or 5.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
2011 would have been the only interesting one.

In 2008 Fed should win as Nadal was far removed from his April-August form.

In 2009 Fed should win comfortably.

In 2010, Nadal should win in 4.

In 2013 Nadal should win easily.

In 2017 Nadal should win as Roger just wasn't that good.

In 2011 Fed had the higher level, but Nadal had the mental edge, hence the 50/50 odds.
 

StrongRule

G.O.A.T.
2011 would have been the only interesting one.

In 2008 Fed should win as Nadal was far removed from his April-August form.

In 2009 Fed should win comfortably.

In 2010, Nadal should win in 4.

In 2013 Nadal should win easily.

In 2017 Nadal should win as Roger just wasn't that good.

In 2011 Fed had the higher level, but Nadal had the mental edge, hence the 50/50 odds.
Federer had the clear mental edge in 2017, so it's like 2011.
 

Thedesertfox

Semi-Pro
Yeah he choked in 2011. But in 2013 his body was broken and in 2017 he looked tired at the U.S. swing. Also DelPo played really well
 

D.Nalby12

G.O.A.T.
2006-09 - Nadal wasn't good enough on hard.

2010 - Federer lost to better player in semis. Yet he had 2 MPs.

2011 - Choke by Fed.

2013 - Tank by Federer

2017 - Federer injured before Uso. No preparation. Loses to Potro.
 

Thedesertfox

Semi-Pro
Yes, but his form in 2017 just wasn't good so Nadal's level would be good enough to get the job done.
With all due respect I disagree. Federer dominated Nadal in 2017. In 4 matches Nadal won just 2 sets.
Had Roger reached USO finals, he would have beaten Nadal.
 

Thedesertfox

Semi-Pro
2006-09 - Nadal wasn't good enough on hard.

2010 - Federer lost to better player in semis. Yet he had 2 MPs.

2011 - Choke by Fed.

2013 - Tank by Federer

2017 - Federer injured before Uso. No preparation. Loses to Potro.
Tank? In 2013 his body was broken. According to one reporter who saw Federer playing at WTF , Fed could barely move
 

D.Nalby12

G.O.A.T.
Sureeee. Then why did he not tank in Cincinatti and later that year in London in order to avoid Nadal and avoid a perhaps humiliating defeat
He was playing better in both events + his favourite courts. Gave tough match. OTOH at Uso he would suffer humiliation. Slow USO court favours Nadal unlike Cincy or WTF indoors.
 

Thedesertfox

Semi-Pro
He was playing better in both events + his favourite courts. Gave tough match. OTOH at Uso he would suffer humiliation.
And USO is not his favourite? Won 5 USO in a row, reached 6 finals in a row, an unprecedented record.
Plus tons of semis , quarters you name it
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
With all due respect I disagree. Federer dominated Nadal in 2017. In 4 matches Nadal won just 2 sets.
Had Roger reached USO finals, he would have beaten Nadal.
Fed's form at the USO just wasn't good enough that year, just like Nadal's in 2008 and 2009 wasn't. After his injury, he just couldn't summon a good level in time for the USO.
 

dapchai

Legend
2011 would have been the only interesting one with Federer dismantling Nadal.

In 2008 Fed should win as Nadal was never winning any hypotheticals.

In 2009 Fed should win comfortably.

In 2010, Nadal should lose in 3.

In 2013 Nadal should lose easily.

In 2017 Nadal should lose as Roger is absolutely unbeatable in hypotheticals.

In 2011 Fed had the higher level, but Nadal had the mental edge, hence Federer destroys Nadal since this is hypothetical.
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