Six King Slam 2024 SF - Jannik Sinner vs Novak Djokovic

[RF-18]

A rematch after their showing couple of days ago in the Shanghai Final. A chance for revenge for Novak to have a go at the biggest prize money ever in tennis and take another record.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Sinner destroyed meddy in last match. Another straight sets win for sinner here.

 

[RF-18]

Sinner destroyed meddy in last match. Another straight sets win for sinner here.

Nole is ready and has a solid chance IMO.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Nole is ready and has a solid chance IMO.

I doubt it. Honestly I think Novak fans still think he can turn it around because well it’s Novak and he did it against others.

However, there’s like a 14 year gap between these guy and sinner is a nightmare matchup for him. Sinner is just way to solid and doesn’t give you anything easy.

I do think Djokovic will struggle to ever beat him again now. That said he doesn’t need to and the pressure is off. He can just play freely and see.

 

[Winner Sinner]

Djokovic is better off tackling it as a real exhibition match by making a bit of cinema to dilute the real competitive side. If the match enters the tracks of true competition as I saw Sinner today and the feeling with this surface, the Italian risks being bullied too. Here no one cares about losing because the 6 million prize money is tempting for everyone, obviously. Money would bring back sight to the blind, it is said here where I come from.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Djokovic is better off tackling it as a real exhibition match by making a bit of cinema to dilute the real competitive side. If the match enters the tracks of true competition as I saw Sinner today and the feeling with this surface, the Italian risks being bullied too. Here no one cares about losing because the 6 million prize money is tempting for everyone, obviously. Money would bring back sight to the blind, it is said here where I come from.

True. Sinner might take it a bit easier as it an exhibition. We will see.

 

[roysid]

Djoker won't let 6 million go. He will channel the energy of a wolf and fight to the last

 

[Genie Of the Bank]

Djoker won't let 6 million go. He will channel the energy of a wolf and fight to the last

Unfortunately, Novak looks slow when he moves to the right. I think the knee operation ended his chances to win any of slams .

 

[JJGUY]

Where is thread for Alcaraz v Rafa, or we don't really need one?

 

[NaDjoFed]

I voted Sinner in 3, but I think Sinner in two is more likely. Indoor HC, Sinner is pretty much unbeatable.

 

[jimjam]

What time are the two matches? This and the Nadal one. I can't find the schedule timings anywhere.

 

[paolo2143]

I doubt it. Honestly I think Novak fans still think he can turn it around because well it’s Novak and he did it against others.

However, there’s like a 14 year gap between these guy and sinner is a nightmare matchup for him. Sinner is just way to solid and doesn’t give you anything easy.

I do think Djokovic will struggle to ever beat him again now. That said he doesn’t need to and the pressure is off. He can just play freely and see.

I think due to Novak's injuries and definite noticeable decline this year, if he wants to beat Sinner he will have to change his tactics and mix things up.

Basically at moment they play in a similar style, and if you are up against a far younger, healthier and fitter version of yourself, then if you play same game you will lose.

He needs to try and throw Sinner off balance and mix things up a bit. It might not work but you never know.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

I think due to Novak's injuries and definite noticeable decline this year, if he wants to beat Sinner he will have to change his tactics and mix things up.

Basically at moment they play in a similar style, and if you are up against a far younger, healthier and fitter version of yourself, then if you play same game you will lose.

He needs to try and throw Sinner off balance and mix things up a bit. It might not work but you never know.

Yeah I agree. He has to change his tactics an get a new coach. As playing the same way won’t work now.

 

[MasterSlice74]

Do you know when the match will start? Not able to find anything online about the actual time the match will start.

 

[Pheasant]

If what Medvedev said is true, then Sinner has hit yet another gear during this tourney.

I am taking Sinner in straights; 6-4, 7-6.

 

[NaDjoFed]

Do you know when the match will start? Not able to find anything online about the actual time the match will start.

6.30pm CET (Continental European Time)

 

[GabeT]

Anyone know if/where we can watch this?

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Wow! Look at the poll votes! Times have certainly changed

 

[Drighiz]

Based on what Meddy said after their match, Jannik could be on fire this week. I think it's an easy 2-0 today.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Wow! Look at the poll votes! Times have certainly changed

Polls just show momentum

Sinner has momentum now and no one dares.

Polls don't show reality at all.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Do you know how many break points Sinner generated vs Djokovic in Shanghai ?

Just 2.

Djokovic created 0. Sinner created 2 in 1 game.

They are neck and neck.

 

[Winner Sinner]

Polls just show momentum

Sinner has momentum now and no one dares.

Polls don't show reality at all.

The reality is that Sinner is 23 years old while Djokovic is 37. It is a comparison that is destined to be increasingly unequal. At last year's Davis Cup finals Sinner definitively took away from him the aura of an invincible player that he actually carried with him, since then the music has changed with the Italian no longer having the slightest awe towards him.

 

[nolefam_2024]

The reality is that Sinner is 23 years old while Djokovic is 37. It is a comparison that is destined to be increasingly unequal. At last year's Davis Cup finals Sinner definitively took away from him the aura of an invincible player that he actually carried with him, since then the music has changed with the Italian no longer having the slightest awe towards him.

I know you have a bone to pick with anyone saying anything against sinner

But that is your issue.

I say things as I see. I see sinner as favorite every time he faces nole but nole is very close and can beat him

Do not tell me about age. Because last year he slapped sinner silly. He was 36

 

[Winner Sinner]

I know you have a bone to pick with anyone saying anything against sinner

But that is your issue.

I say things as I see. I see sinner as favorite every time he faces nole but nole is very close and can beat him

Do not tell me about age. Because last year he slapped sinner silly. He was 36

I don't have any unfinished business with anyone, I argue what I say, so I would avoid always putting you on the defensive with these prejudices.

From 36 to 37 there is only one year of difference but in terms of performance the difference at that age from one season to the next can be abysmal in the negative, as demonstrated by the 2023 Djokovic compared to the 2024 one. On the contrary, between between the ages of 22 and 23 when you are still in full tennis development the difference is only one year but in reality it can be abysmal on a positive performance level.

The reality is that between the current Sinner and the current Djokovic there is the same difference that there was between the two of them last year but in reverse. Then there is the possibility that Djokovic can still win some sporadic matches with him every now and then (not in the best of 5 sets), just as Sinner beat Djokovic twice last year despite still being inferior to him. But the fact that the Italian has definitively put the arrow against him without looking back is the reality of the facts, not a sandcastle that you are trying to build to convince yourself that Djokovic is immune to the passage of time.

 

[Nostradamus]

novak double bageled today?

 

[Rovesciarete]

Sinner is the favourite but Djokovic seems to get discounted now too much. In this case the surface should help him.*

Daniil struggled with his and got a rare bagel, Novak is now an elite serve plus player but without the legs of his younger years, as Shanghai should once again.

*Next-Gen Riyadh last year was slightly fastet than Shanghai this week, but might be undervalued by the relative serve-weakness of the younglings.

 

[nolefam_2024]

 

[nolefam_2024]

Sinner is the favourite but Djokovic seems to get discounted now too much. In this case the surface should help him.*

Novak is now an elite serve plus player but without the legs of his younger years.

*Next-Gen Riyadh last year was slightly fastet than Shanghai this week, but might be undervalued by the relative serve-weakness of the younglings.

Sinner has a lot more to do.

This is anyway no win situation for both as this is exho.

I will not worry who wins but just how each perform today. I hope nole ends the year this week and get fitter for AO. Let the young ones sineraz fight it out for rest of the year.

 

[Rovesciarete]

Sinner has a lot more to do.

This is anyway no win situation for both as this is exho.

I will not worry who wins but just how each perform today. I hope nole ends the year this week and get fitter for AO. Let the young ones sineraz fight it out for rest of the year.

That is the spirit, I hope I will enjoy the match too.

Finally Sinner plays an exho and the board still gets serious. It is a good day! Open a good bottle of wine or get yourself another treat and be thankful Djokovic is still out there playing tennis.

 

[Genie Of the Bank]

Live fed of the match !!!

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1dRJZdXgXXMKB

 

[Nostradamus]

winner in the final gets 6 millin dollars. but does taht really matter ? they are all worth like 30 millin dollars minium

 

[RF-18]

Lets goo

 

[ultimathule]

Carlos Ramos sighting. I haven't seen him since the Serena Naomi match.

 

[ultimathule]

If Djokovic takes the first set, he wins. He'll take the first set.

 

[RF-18]

They fixed the camera angle. Much better now

 

[nolefam_2024]

If Djokovic takes the first set, he wins. He'll take the first set.

Exactly.

I am going sinner in 3 assuming Djokovic takes first

 

[nolefam_2024]

Sinner early advantage. He is so nimble and powerful

 

[ultimathule]

Exactly.

I am going sinner in 3 assuming Djokovic takes first

In Shanghai, after he lost the first set, I don't think Djokovic had the fight and/or energy for a comeback.

 

[nolefam_2024]

In Shanghai, after he lost the first set, I don't think Djokovic had the fight and/or energy for a comeback.

Or reason.

Looking a little tentative in the movement.

 

[Nostradamus]

novak can't win a point from the baseline,, he's old and slow. nothing to see here

 

[Bastion]

This is getting sad, how Sinner dominating Novak now. Reminds me of when Rafa asked how is he ever going to win Novak after 2013 on HC... it never happened.

Like I said, let's hope Novak can at least get a few games.

 

[Nostradamus]

Novak hardly trying at all... take away his appearance money for lack of trying, make him take the camel all the way home to serbia

 

[Genie Of the Bank]

novak can't win a point from the baseline,, he's old and slow. nothing to see here

Its more because of the operated knee, he has a slight pause in movement.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Surface is really fast like Turin I feel.

Sinner is giving taste of how Turin is going to go.

 

[Bastion]

Already better than Meddy, got one game in first set!

 

[Bastion]

Baseline gone, return gone.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Novak serves are reaching 210 almost

The surface is exceptionally fast.

 

[Bastion]

Sinner clapping for a good Novak shot says it all, that was what the goat was usually doing.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Come on

Create a break point damn it.

 

[roysid]

Score update pls