six one users: what string setup have you enjoyed ?

Icsa

Rookie
I played the 6.1 Classics for a number of years and those rank among my all-time greats for serve and volley work. I really loved those frames strung with 17 ga. syn. gut, but I eventually got into some softer gear and that gave me better control that I needed around the baseline.

The Volkl C10 was an immediate keeper for me as soon as I found one 2nd hand in the classifieds here. Similar big power along with a lot more baseline control, but this racquet has never given me a lot of easy spin. Turning the ball takes a rather deliberate effort. I've stuck with 17 ga. syn. gut in most of my racquets, including these Volkls, and I even prefer its overall feel and performance over various poly hybrids I've tried - I string at home, so it's been easy to experiment.

I also added the Volkl O10 325g to my bag and these also seem the most dialed in for me with a snug set of 17 ga. syn. gut. Much easier access to spin with these frames, but just a little less top end power. Both Volkls are 98" frames with 16x19 patterns and my O10's are customized to a weight and balance that's more similar to my C10's.

My most recent acquisition has been a set of three of the Six.One 95 frames from the most recent generation with parallel drilling. These are a little lighter than my old 6.1 Classics and I'm getting a little more control with these frames, maybe because they don't overpower the ball quite as much as those stiff and hefty Classics that could be a little hot and unpredictable.

I've only been experimenting with one of these newer Wilsons strung with 17 ga. syn. gut at 56 lbs., but I'm going to string another one - either the same or maybe with 16 ga. syn. gut - for some further noodling. Although these latest Six.Ones are lighter than even the Volkls I've been using in recent years, they're stable enough to feel as though they command the ball pretty well. The slightly smaller hoop doesn't seem to diminish the racquet's inherent liveliness compared to my 98" Volkls when I practice serves and both control and spin seem to be more than ample.

More on this story as it develops...
Thanks for sharing - these new 6.1s, are they 18x20 or 16x18? What brand of syn. gut are you using?
 

ssdeluxe

New User
new ones are only 18x20...no 16x18 in the works ....yet (who knows).......sad :(

great...now I have to go back to syn gut and re-investigate that as well...lol !
 

fuzz nation

G.O.A.T.
Thanks for sharing - these new 6.1s, are they 18x20 or 16x18? What brand of syn. gut are you using?
These racquets are the 16x18 pattern (both the newer ones and the older 6.1 Classics).

The 17 ga. syn. gut that really got me hooked several years ago was from LaserFibre. Don't recall the name of the specific string, but it had multiple outer layers of multifilament on top of a solid inner core. This inner core was a smaller diameter than that of a typical solid core syn. gut with only one outer layer of fibers. More expensive then basic syn. gut, but the guy who ran the wee company for a while lived nearby, so I could keep some sets on hand easily enough.

A string with similar construction is Gosen Multi CX - the packaging shows its cross section. Unfortunately this stuff sells through TW at $13.99 per set, but for anybody who prefers a premium multifiber, maybe this string with a small solid core could be a decent option.

Right now I have reels of Kirschbaum's syn. gut - both 16 and 17 ga. After going though a couple reels of their standard syn. gut, I read enough positive feedback on the boards here to convince me to also try their premium syn. gut and I just picked up a reel of each gauge of this string, too. I've only recently strung a couple racquets with the premium and had one or two hits with it so far. Not enough to really offer a comparison, but so far they seem to be rather similar.

Hopefully I can offer some more feedback after I chew through a few sets over the next couple of weeks, but I know myself well enough to say that right now I rather like the bang for my buck that I get with their cheaper standard syn. gut. While it's not as soft as Forten Sweet, it seems to be a bit softer than average. In contrast, I'd say that something like Gosen OGSM plays slightly on the firm side of the street, but it's also a very decent syn. gut depending on the application - I love using the 16 ga. Gosen as a cross in a poly hybrid.

I'll see what comes of the K-baum premium in terms of performance and service life, but so far I'm not wondering how I ever got along without this stuff. It's fine, but it's also almost twice the price of their standard string. It may turn out to be extra durable or become super cozy after a couple of outings (or both), but I'll have a better impression of all that after some more hours in the trenches.
 

moon shot

Hall of Fame
I've found a nice balance in 4g Soft @ 44/42lbs in the 18x20. Many thanks to John Peers for the suggestion ;)

I'm going to try Tour bite soft and hyper-g in a similar range. I had planned on trying a gut hybrid but I don't feel the need for something that different after the 4g.
 
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I've found a nice balance in 4g Soft @ 44/42lbs in the 18x20. Many thanks to John Peers for the suggestion ;)

I'm going to try Tour bite soft and hyper-g in a similar range. I had planned on trying a gut hybrid but I don't feel the need for something that different after the 4g.
That tensions is looow

How do you keep the ball in play
 

ssdeluxe

New User
the 18x20 seems to like much less tension than the 16x18.....hence some low numbers from some folks....I have not tried low tension in the 16x18, anybody tried low tension in that one ??

p.s. my update to strings I'm digging in order of preference: (in 16x18 pattern)

1) revolve ( formerly ripspin....in 17 or 16) full bed @ 57 lbs. : all around pretty good and long lasting, only downside for me is net-touch....but good luck with that in a poly :)

2) YPTP 17 main/ Solinco Outlast 16 cross (57/55 lbs) : very good durability, about as good as revolve, and some nice feel off the YPTP , but, the YPTP bags out a little sooner than revolve or Outlast.

3) and lastly: Head Hawk 17 (57/55 lbs) : nice all-around string again....like it 3rd best, but its a nice all-rounder, and, maybe a bit better net feel than the others, but that could be because its on my ncode (which seems to feel better at net than my kfactor/blx2/blx3's.)

keep your fave's coming !
 

KaiserW

Hall of Fame
I really enjoy plain old syn gut in the 6.1. Just feels right to me. Poly is too stiff for me in these sticks.

My favorite syn gut is Prince Original in white.
 
I really enjoy plain old syn gut in the 6.1. Just feels right to me. Poly is too stiff for me in these sticks.

My favorite syn gut is Prince Original in white.
Good to hear syn gut works well on this frame. What tension do you string at? And what guage? Have you tried PSGD? I have a 16X18 with syn/poly hybrid. I like it. Itching to try the new 18X20 version.
 

KaiserW

Hall of Fame
Good to hear syn gut works well on this frame. What tension do you string at? And what guage? Have you tried PSGD? I have a 16X18 with syn/poly hybrid. I like it. Itching to try the new 18X20 version.
I string at 58 with 16g, with the 16x18. Never tried the 18x20. I don't like the Duraflex version as much, Original feels better to me.
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
You guys seeing an increase in spin with all poly by dropping the crosses 2lbs? I'm thinking with the 18x20 going 46/44 or 48/46. Lux Alu or Hyper G.
Play RF 97 and PS97 now at 48-52 all poly.
 
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USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
(2017) Wilson 6.1 95 18x20 @ 45 with Hyper G 1.25.
Interested in stringing with gut/poly but not sure what tension to go to from poly 45. Anyone have any suggestions?
Strung it once with Wholesale natural gut/ poly at 48/45 and it felt like mush. Believe that had more to do with the gut I used.
 

seekay

Semi-Pro
(2017) Wilson 6.1 95 18x20 @ 45 with Hyper G 1.25.
Interested in stringing with gut/poly but not sure what tension to go to from poly 45. Anyone have any suggestions?
Strung it once with Wholesale natural gut/ poly at 48/45 and it felt like mush. Believe that had more to do with the gut I used.
I've had good luck with a ~10% tension differential, gut mains tighter than poly crosses. My experience is primarily with the K Factor 16x18 model, so my tensions are a little higher than yours. I like full poly at 48lb, started gut/poly at 55/50, and eventually dropped to 52/48 where I quite liked it.
 

Torque

New User
6.1 95 (2017) string with Vs gut/RPM Blast at 60/55
I needed a comfortable string due to golfer's elbow. I have tried 4G and liked it. I hit w moderate spin and fast stokes. It will last 2-3 months with string savers. I play 3-4 times per week. 4.5 level

The racquet was too head light so I weighted it up to about 12.5 oz. With this setup I have good control, moderate spin ability.
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
Been playing RF97 from 57/54- 58/55 for years with gut/poly so probably need to be below that. 48/45 felt like mush so I’m thinking 55/52.
 
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6.1 classic frames for 15 some yrs. Tried some other frames along the way...but always come back to the "just right" feel, power and controI of the 6.1. Mostly all doubles now. Solid return stick with the 13.1 ounces. Right now I string 48lbs klip gut mains. 50lbs forten sweet 16. With such a hefty stiff racquet i like to create some ball pocketing and feel with a lower tension and the gut/forten combo give me the feel i need. Also...pretty easy on the arm.
Mostly flat on forehand. Bit more topspin on backhand.
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
6.1 classic frames for 15 some yrs. Tried some other frames along the way...but always come back to the "just right" feel, power and controI of the 6.1. Mostly all doubles now. Solid return stick with the 13.1 ounces. Right now I string 48lbs klip gut mains. 50lbs forten sweet 16. With such a hefty stiff racquet i like to create some ball pocketing and feel with a lower tension and the gut/forten combo give me the feel i need. Also...pretty easy on the arm.
Mostly flat on forehand. Bit more topspin on backhand.
Played 18x20 frames in college and open level tennis. Played 16x19 frames since the Wilson n6.1 frames.(2004-2010). Few years with Head frames. (Radical Pro 16x19). RF97’s and PS97’s since the RF came out. Now back to the reissue Wilson 6.1 18x20 frames and it’s incredible how much control I get with the frame. It’s like going home. Playing full poly at 47-48lbs.
 

ssdeluxe

New User
6.1 classic frames for 15 some yrs. Tried some other frames along the way...but always come back to the "just right" feel, power and controI of the 6.1. Mostly all doubles now. Solid return stick with the 13.1 ounces. Right now I string 48lbs klip gut mains. 50lbs forten sweet 16. With such a hefty stiff racquet i like to create some ball pocketing and feel with a lower tension and the gut/forten combo give me the feel i need. Also...pretty easy on the arm.
Mostly flat on forehand. Bit more topspin on backhand.

^^ sounds like the 18x20 ?? Interesting set up.

I have the 16x18 and run them around 54 lb's winter, and 58 lb's in summer (funny, seems Europe/Eastern hemisphere got the 18x20's, and, North America got the 16x18".....with the exception of Philip Kolschreiber....who moved from 18x20 to 16x18 a few years ago :) )

I run mine with leather grips and og's, tiny bit of lead at 12,3,9 if I'm feeling in good shape, but mostly stock...brings the stick to around 13.5 ounces.

( found the 6.1 when I got back into tennis after 20 years away :0 ! ....tried TONNES of others, but keep coming back, its not perfect, but its like home, 6 years and counting. :)

setup's that seem to work: (but truthfully, as long as the string is to correct tension for the conditions, and, relatively fresh...they all work ! lol)

1) velocity 17 full bed---plays muted, but if I can get good rhs going, it makes a good "crack"...and I like the mid-court, off-balance shots with this string, helps me keep them under control for some reason....with other strings the mid-court stretchers usual fly away uncontrollably.

2) revolve 17 full bed-- great all arounder, and good net feel, and decent durability.

3) velocity or sensation 17 m/ head hawk 17 or revolve 17 x-- both multi's I like, with the nod to velocity, the sensation feel nice, but looses that feel more quickly than velocity, sensation is however very slick/slippery....I'm going to try it in cross next.

a nod to revolve in this setup for more punch...head hawk has more control...both very good.

4) ytex protour 17 and profeel 16L -- these were a surprise, liked them both, profeel a bit nicer at net, and, protour a bit more control.


** ones I tried and did NOT like:

RPM Blast: great for 2 hits ..then poo. ..not cost effective for me.
tour bite..not sure, it just didn't feel right for me on this stick...maybe too firm...but perhaps I should try again with lower tension.
snake bite..ok, but went dead fast for me (no feel )

seems I prefer the round poly's with the 16x18.
 

jsm1373

Rookie
Tried lots of combos but settled on full bed Luxilon 4G 125 in my 18x20 nCodes. I don't think there's one answer, just what works/feels best for you.
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
Tried lots of combos but settled on full bed Luxilon 4G 125 in my 18x20 nCodes. I don't think there's one answer, just what works/feels best for you.
What tension you stringing? I picked up a Wilson Kfactor 6.1 18x20 and for whatever reason it feels a bit more flexible at the top half of the hoop than my re issue 6.1 18x20’s. That could the amount of play that the Kfactor has been through. Re-issue frames 48lbs is about as tight as I want to go with full poly. At 50lbs with the Kfactor and still feels a bit soft. Side note: Replaced the grommets in the kfactor.
 

jsm1373

Rookie
What tension you stringing? I picked up a Wilson Kfactor 6.1 18x20 and for whatever reason it feels a bit more flexible at the top half of the hoop than my re issue 6.1 18x20’s. That could the amount of play that the Kfactor has been through. Re-issue frames 48lbs is about as tight as I want to go with full poly. At 50lbs with the Kfactor and still feels a bit soft. Side note: Replaced the grommets in the kfactor.
Interesting about the difference in flex in the hoop. The reason I keep 5-6 strung in the bag is to have a range of identical sticks but for the tension if playing on a cold night or hot day... As low as 45 and as high as 54 seems to be the range I like depending on conditions. Back in the 90's ProBlend days I was mid/high 60s, but as we all know fully poly plays better looser... I tried lots of variations/types (easier done with ones own stringing machine) of Luxilon, Solinco, and NXT (once VS gut mains but broke it way too quickly for my wallet...)

Glad you found fitting grommets for your Kfactor! That they are interchangeable across 6.1 variants (except for parallel drilling) put my mind at ease when switching to an older frame.
 

pronostix

New User
I've been playing with head lynx tour at 23/22 kg on my uncustomized 2017 six one. Plays pretty good. Will surely try other set-ups in the future
 
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