Slam winners for 2011

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Trillus

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Who would be your early picks for slam winners for the year 2011. Mine would be:

Men:

Australian Open- Nadal. Other possabilities- Djokovic, Federer
French Open- Nadal. Other possabilities- None
Wimbledon- Nadal. Other possabilities- None
U.S Open- Nadal. Other possabilities- Federer, Del Potro, Djokovic


Women:

Australian Open- Clijsters. Others possabilities- Serena, Henin, Wozniacki
French Open- Clijsters. Other possabilities- Stosur, Henin
Wimbledon- Serena. Other possabilities- Clijsters, Venus
U.S Open- Henin. Other possabilities- Clijsters, Serena, Venus, Wozniacki
 
cknobman

cknobman

Legend
Nice pics, I see your a firm believer you'll retire winning the lottery too!!!! :razz:

Heres my "pie in the sky" pics:

Men:
AO - Djokovic
FO - Nadal
W - Federer
USO - Federer

Women:
AO - Serena
FO - Henin
W - Henin
USO - Clijsters
 
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Trillus

Banned
cknobman said:
Nice pics, I see your a firm believer you'll retire winning the lottery too!!!! :razz:
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I am not sure of most of my picks, which is why I listed other possabilities for 6 of the 8. And picking Nadal to win the French and Wimbledon at this point is a million times easier than winning a small money lottery.
 
MixieP

MixieP

Hall of Fame
Men:
AO - Nadal
FO - Nadal
W - Berdych
USO - Federer

Women:
AO - Wozniacki
FO - Schiavone
W - Zvonareva
USO - Clijsters
 
Hood_Man

Hood_Man

G.O.A.T.
AO - Federer
FO - Nadal (hopefully Soderling will make it as well and he pushes Nadal to 5 sets... you never know, it could happen!)
W - Nadal
USO - Djokovic
 
boredone3456

boredone3456

G.O.A.T.
Men

AO- Federer Others: Nadal, Murray, Djokovic
RG- Nadal Others: Well....none that I can think of now
W- Nadal or Federer Others: Maybe Murray...maybe
USO Djokovic? (I think Fed may be about done by then...and Nadal defending, i'm not really sure...This is the biggest toss up for me) Others: way to far ahead to even think about

Women (honestly, who knows with any of these, they will probably all be completely and abysmally wrong)

AO- Clijsters Other Possibilities: Serena, Woz, Zvonareva (Assuming Serena and Clijsters are out..playing well she can beat anyone else at this point)

RG- No clear favorite at all for this one, possibilities: Stosur, Clijsters, Henin, Jankovic, Dementieva, Wozniacki, Kuznetsova...I will say I very highly doubt Schiavone defends her title, I'll be surprised if she makes the quarters, and she could even do a Myskina....

W- if she isn't hurt, Serena, if Serena doesn't play...well....see the RG possibilities drop Kuznetsova and add Zvonareva

USO- Clijsters or Serena Other Possibilities: Henin (maybe), Jankovic, Azarenka (I for some reason still have hope for this girl...I am beginning to wonder why...), Wozniacki.
 
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President

President

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Trillus said:
Who would be your early picks for slam winners for the year 2011. Mine would be:

Men:

Australian Open- Nadal. Other possabilities- Djokovic, Federer
French Open- Nadal. Other possabilities- None
Wimbledon- Nadal. Other possabilities- None
U.S Open- Nadal. Other possabilities- Federer, Del Potro, Djokovic
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You think Federer has no chance at Wimbledon? In fact no one else has a chance but Nadal? That's ridiculous. Nadal was taken to 5 sets by Robin Haase and Phillip Petzchner if memory serves me right, and was absolutely brutalized in the first set against Soderling before Soderling's level dropped. He is hardly completely dominant at Wimbledon. Federer may have lost to Berdych, but he has shown that he faces less random threats than Nadal at Wimbledon. Saying Federer has no chance at Wimbledon is akin to saying Nadal had no chance at RG last year because Soderling beat him. It's just silly.
 
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Trillus

Banned
Federer's grass court game was quite bad this year. Not just his results which- losing to Berdych at Wimbledon, nearly losing to Falla at Wimbledon, losing to Hewitt in the twilight of his career at Halle, were pretty horrendous for his standards, but his actual tennis in doing so looked even worse than the results. I think Federer's chances of slams are limited to hard courts now, the only surface his game sometimes still looks together. Even 2 years ago when Federer was a far better grass court player than today he wasnt able to beat Nadal at Wimbledon, her certainly wont do it now. And no there isnt anyone else I can imagine winning Wimbledon. Murray hasnt come close to beating Nadal there in 2 attempts now, when he atleast comes close to beating Nadal there then we can talk. And of course Murray has failed to win a slam anywhere up to now, even on his best surface of hard courts. Djokovic is not going to beat Nadal on grass, especialy at Wimbledon. Roddick at this point in his career is not going to win Wimbledon, nor beat Nadal in a slam. And the rest arent even worth a mention.

I guess if Nadal went out early in some huge upset but that is very unlikely. Yeah sure he went 5 sets to a couple little knowns in early rounds but he was never in serious danger of losing either match (he romped away with the last 2 sets of both). And Nadal is dominant at Wimbledon today, he has won 20 of his last 21 matches there, the one loss being a narrow 5 set loss to a still prime Federer over 3 years ago.
 
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meg0529

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AO- Nadal/Murray/Fed/Djoker
FO- Nadal maybe Sod?
W- Nadal/Fed/Berdy/Murray
USO- not sure, maybe Fed will make a comeback?
 
forzamilan90

forzamilan90

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Australian Open - Federer, runner up Nadal
French Open - Nadal, runner up Federer (sigh)
Wimbledon - Federer, runner up Nadal
US Open - Federer, runner up Nadal
 
Seth

Seth

Legend
If I had my druthers:

Down Under - Nadal / Clijsters
Roland Garros - Nadal / Clijsters
Wimby - Nadal / Clijsters
US Open - Nadal / Clijsters

Feelings aside:

Down Under - Nadal / Serena
Roland Garros - Nadal / Henin
Wimby - Roddick / Clijsters
US open - Isner / Clijsters
 
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meg0529

Guest
Seth said:
If I had my druthers:

Down Under - Nadal / Clijsters
Roland Garros - Nadal / Clijsters
Wimby - Nadal / Clijsters
US Open - Nadal / Clijsters

Feelings aside:

Down Under - Nadal / Serena
Roland Garros - Nadal / Henin
Wimby - Roddick / Clijsters
US open - Isner / Clijsters
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Isner?? really?? I'd love for Roddick to win Wimby, but I can't see it happening.
 
danielrios

danielrios

Semi-Pro
Nadal is getting injured next year, so im gonna take Federer for Wimbledon and US open, Murray/Djokovic for Aus and Nadal for the French with an easy draw.
 
abmk

abmk

Bionic Poster
Trillus said:
Federer's grass court game was quite bad this year. Not just his results which- losing to Berdych at Wimbledon, nearly losing to Falla at Wimbledon, losing to Hewitt in the twilight of his career at Halle, were pretty horrendous for his standards, but his actual tennis in doing so looked even worse than the results. I think Federer's chances of slams are limited to hard courts now, the only surface his game sometimes still looks together. Even 2 years ago when Federer was a far better grass court player than today he wasnt able to beat Nadal at Wimbledon, her certainly wont do it now. And no there isnt anyone else I can imagine winning Wimbledon. Murray hasnt come close to beating Nadal there in 2 attempts now, when he atleast comes close to beating Nadal there then we can talk. And of course Murray has failed to win a slam anywhere up to now, even on his best surface of hard courts. Djokovic is not going to beat Nadal on grass, especialy at Wimbledon. Roddick at this point in his career is not going to win Wimbledon, nor beat Nadal in a slam. And the rest arent even worth a mention.

I guess if Nadal went out early in some huge upset but that is very unlikely. Yeah sure he went 5 sets to a couple little knowns in early rounds but he was never in serious danger of losing either match (he romped away with the last 2 sets of both). And Nadal is dominant at Wimbledon today, he has won 20 of his last 21 matches there, the one loss being a narrow 5 set loss to a still prime Federer over 3 years ago.
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yes, because:

1. its not possible to imagine his play at wimbledon 2010 was a bad patch of play, partly caused by some niggling injuries, not anything major, but still did affect his play/confidence

2. nadal is much better on grass now than what he showed us in wimby 2008 :roll: - when in fact that was his best tennis on grass ( till now )

3. why is it so hard to imagine roddick defeating nadal @ wimby ? why is it that he has no chance at all ? :rolleyes:
 
abmk

abmk

Bionic Poster
just having some fun, I'll predict non-slam winners @ those events , lets see how many of these come true !

AO:murray
FO:sod/delpo
wimby:roddick
USO:djoker
 
abmk

abmk

Bionic Poster
actual predictions:

AO: fed/nadal/djoker/tsonga
FO: nadal/sod/delpo/fed
wim: fed/nadal/murray/roddick
USO:murray/fed/delpo/djoker/nadal

in that order, no reasoning for some of these, just intuition
 
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Trillus

Banned
abmk said:
yes, because:

1. its not possible to imagine his play at wimbledon 2010 was a bad patch of play, partly caused by some niggling injuries, not anything major, but still did affect his play/confidence

2. nadal is much better on grass now than what he showed us in wimby 2008 :roll: - when in fact that was his best tennis on grass ( till now )

3. why is it so hard to imagine roddick defeating nadal @ wimby ? why is it that he has no chance at all ? :rolleyes:
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1. His play at Wimbledon 2009 was worse than 2008, and his play in 2010 worse than 2009 so it is just following the natural regression of age.

2. Maybe so but he doesnt have to be as good as 2008 to win Wimbledon since Federer is much worse and not good enough to beat Nadal anymore except maybe on hard courts, and nobody else is yet proven as a viable threat on that surface.

3. Lets see, Roddicks Wimbledon showings since 2006:

2006- lost 3rd round to 18 year old Murray
2007- lost quarters to Gasquet
2008- lost 3rd round to Tipsarevic
2009- made final after Nadal withdrew
2010- lost 4th round to some Korean player

So yeah I dont like his chances one bit vs a guy who has been in the finals of every Wimbledon he has played since 2006, winning both Wimbledons he played since 2008. Roddick is in the twigliht of his career, and even in his prime he wasnt that able to beat the very best in the majors. Beating Nadal at Miami is not the same as doing it at Wimbledon, and even the Miami win was a shock as Roddick is mostly owned by Nadal even in best of 3 events at this point, and it was also during Nadals long title-less streak.
 
abmk

abmk

Bionic Poster
Trillus said:
1. His play at Wimbledon 2009 was worse than 2008, and his play in 2010 worse than 2009 so it is just following the natural regression of age.
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how much worse was his showing in 2009 when compared to 2008 ? not much of a difference at all IMO. In fact among those, his best match was the haas one in 2009, he put on a total clinic of all-court tennis in that match (not the wimby 2008 F)

Trillus said:
2. Maybe so but he doesnt have to be as good as 2008 to win Wimbledon since Federer is much worse and not good enough to beat Nadal anymore except maybe on hard courts, and nobody else is yet proven as a viable threat on that surface.
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all it takes is one match with federer playing very well - even if struggles a bit until playing rafa - it is his consistency that has wavered, his highest level is still up there

Trillus said:
3. Lets see, Roddicks Wimbledon showings since 2006:

2006- lost 3rd round to 18 year old Murray
2007- lost quarters to Gasquet
2008- lost 3rd round to Tipsarevic
2009- made final after Nadal withdrew
2010- lost 4th round to some Korean player

So yeah I dont like his chances one bit vs a guy who has been in the finals of every Wimbledon he has played since 2006, winning both Wimbledons he played since 2008. Roddick is in the twigliht of his career, and even in his prime he wasnt that able to beat the very best in the majors. Beating Nadal at Miami is not the same as doing it at Wimbledon, and even the Miami win was a shock as Roddick is mostly owned by Nadal even in best of 3 events at this point, and it was also during Nadals long title-less streak.
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if haase and petzschener could take nadal to 5, roddick *could* beat him. I'm not saying he's favoured, no, not at all, but if he can turn it on against nadal on a slow HC ( where's he's worse than he's at wimby ) , he'd have a shot against him at wimby ...

if you say , those 5-setters were only because those matches were in the earlier rounds, remember nadal had a bad start vs sod, but he managed to raise his level and sod's dipped .... roddick's serve might not give him that chance to make a comeback like that ... Just pointing out it's not *that* unlikely
 
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Trillus

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abmk said:
how much worse was his showing in 2009 when compared to 2008 ? not much of a difference at all IMO. In fact among those, his best match was the haas one in 2009, he put on a total clinic of all-court tennis in that match (not the wimby 2008 F)
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I thought his play in 2009 was definitely worse than 2008. He was doing worse from the baseline vs Roddick than he was vs Nadal. The main reason he was able to win the 2009 final was Roddick having the worst return of serve in the top 20 allowed the huge ace totals and unreturnables (along with Federer having an excellent serve), and Roddick botching the big points in the match especialy the 2nd set tiebreak.

all it takes is one match with federer playing very well - even if struggles a bit until playing rafa - it is his consistency that has wavered, his highest level is still up there
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Federer even in his prime or alot closer to his prime than he is now struggled to try and beat Nadal at Wimbledon in 2007 (barely managed) and 2008 (couldnt manage). He is not going to beat him now far past his prime on one of Nadals favorite surfaces with Nadal at the peak of his abilities. The only place he might do it is hard courts, his true best surface despite his grass record, and Nadals worst.


if haase and petzschener could take nadal to 5, roddick *could* beat him. I'm not saying he's favoured, no, not at all, but if he can turn it on against nadal on a slow HC ( where's he's worse than he's at wimby ) , he'd have a shot against him at wimby ...

if you say , those 5-setters were only because those matches were in the earlier rounds, remember nadal had a bad start vs sod, but he managed to raise his level and sod's dipped .... roddick's serve might not give him that chance to make a comeback like that ... Just pointing out it's not *that* unlikely
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I just dont see Roddick winning 3 sets vs Nadal in a slam anywhere. You mention Soderling but Soderling is a tougher opponent for Nadal now than Roddick if anything, and Soderling still wasnt even close to winning that match. Add to that that Roddick seems unlikely to even play Nadal in the draw, and no I dont see him as a viable threat.
 
abmk

abmk

Bionic Poster
Trillus said:
I thought his play in 2009 was definitely worse than 2008. He was doing worse from the baseline vs Roddick than he was vs Nadal. The main reason he was able to win the 2009 final was Roddick having the worst return of serve in the top 20 allowed the huge ace totals and unreturnables (along with Federer having an excellent serve), and Roddick botching the big points in the match especialy the 2nd set tiebreak.
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yes, he played worse from the baseline in 2009 F than in 2008 F, but before the finals, he was playing darn well from the baseline in 2009 ...

oh and btw roddick didn't botch up that many big points, in fact he saved all but one breakpoints ... he botched up that one volley true, but it was federer who saved the other 3

Trillus said:
Federer even in his prime or alot closer to his prime than he is now struggled to try and beat Nadal at Wimbledon in 2007 (barely managed) and 2008 (couldnt manage). He is not going to beat him now far past his prime on one of Nadals favorite surfaces with Nadal at the peak of his abilities. The only place he might do it is hard courts, his true best surface despite his grass record, and Nadals worst.
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remember , that was nadal playing to the best of his capabilities ( in both wimby 2007 and wimby 2008 )

he's due for a bad patch of play sometime vs fed in a grand slam after FO 2006 match ( 1st set ) ( well ok, perhaps, wimby 2006 1st set, but that wasn't that bad )

if federer is all that bad now, how is it that even with neither of them playing well, he won just one point less than nadal on clay at madrid 2010?

its still a matter of playing the big points well , unless one of them is off-form or one of them is playing insane and the other playing slightly below par

Trillus said:
I just dont see Roddick winning 3 sets vs Nadal in a slam anywhere. You mention Soderling but Soderling is a tougher opponent for Nadal now than Roddick if anything, and Soderling still wasnt even close to winning that match. Add to that that Roddick seems unlikely to even play Nadal in the draw, and no I dont see him as a viable threat.
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we'll see ......nadal still finds roddick's serve tougher to deal with than sod's and that could be crucial at wimby .....
 
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Justin Side

Justin Side

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abmk said:
we'll see
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What makes you sure of that? Roddick has disappointed 4 of the last 5 years at Wimbledon, no sure thing we'll ever see him go deep enough to play Nadal at any future Wimbledon. The Queens 2008 SF may be the only grass match they ever play.
 
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Gangsta

Rookie
At this point, I can only see Nadal winning the slams. If he is injured, someone else will. And how can I predict injuries now....
 
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Trillus

Banned
For the record I would love to see Roddick win Wimbledon even though I dont like particularly like him. He deserves it more than anyone considering his performances there in 2003, 2004, 2009, even 2005, and all the time he has spent in the top 10 and not winning another major. I just cant imagine it happening, nor even beating Nadal should they play (which doesnt even seem likely given that they still havent met at Wimbledon).
 
Justin Side

Justin Side

Hall of Fame
Trillus said:
For the record I would love to see Roddick win Wimbledon even though I dont like particularly like him. He deserves it more than anyone considering his performances there in 2003, 2004, 2009, even 2005, and all the time he has spent in the top 10 and not winning another major. I just cant imagine it happening, nor even beating Nadal should they play (which doesnt even seem likely given that they still havent met at Wimbledon).
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Same here. I'd love to see Roddick win Wimbledon, but I think that boat has passed. He'll join Lendl among the best grass players of the Open Era that never won Wimbledon.
 
AhmedD

AhmedD

Semi-Pro
Feelings aside:

AO- Nadal. Other possiblities: Djokovic, Federer, Murray
FO- Nadal. Other possibilities: Djokovic, Soderling, Federer
SW19- Federer. Other possibilities: Nadal, Djokovic, Murray
USO- Federer. Other possibilities: Del Potro, Nadal, Djokovic
 
TennisFan3

TennisFan3

Talk Tennis Guru
My picks:

AO: Federer, Djokovic, Nadal, Murray, Soderling
F.O: Nadal.............Delpo, Soderling, Federer, Djokovic
W: Nadal....Fed, Soderling, Berdych, Djokovic
UsO: Djokovic, Federer, Nadal, Delpo, Soderling, Murray

In summary, if Nadal remains injury-free (which is a big "IF" considering his history), he's likely to win the channel slam. Simply because, on clay, he is as close to unbeatable as it gets. And on grass, the field is thinner, and Nadal is definitely the best while Fed is a little off. I really do think that Nadal could dominate the AELTC for a few more summers, given his faster serve (which was already good on grass, but NOW will be better still. He was always exceptional at holding serve on grass. The job will be easier for him now). Again this is assuming Nadal remains injury free - which is a 50/50, I guess.

For the hardcourt slams, my gut is one for Fed and one for Djokovic. Although I wouldn't be surprised if Fed wins both the AO and the UsOpen. OR someone like Delpo or Soderling manages to win one of them. Still I don't think Nadal will defend his UsOpen or win his second A.O.
 
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kishnabe

kishnabe

Talk Tennis Guru
Men:

AO: Murray
FO: Djokovic
WB:Roddick
US Open: Federer

Women:

AO: Wozniacki
FO: Serena
WB: Henin
US: Venus
 
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tennisfanireland94

Guest
Men

AO: Djokovic (or Federer, very tough call)
FO: Nadal
W: Nadal
US: Del Potro

Women

AO: Wozniacki
FO: Henin
W: Serena
US: Wozniacki
 
okdude1992

okdude1992

Hall of Fame
lol at all the people who don't have nadal winning anything. hope your not putting money on him losing.

i see it like this:

nadal:2 slams
fed:1 slam
murray/djokovic/delpo:1 slam
 
C

callmethedoctor

Banned
In order of likeliness-

AO- Nadal/Djokovic
FO- Nadal
W- Nadal/Federer
US- Federer/Del Potro/Djokovic/Nadal/Murray

AO- Wozniacki/Clijsters/Serena
FO- Henin/Stosur/Schiavone
W- Serena/Venus/Zvonareva
US- Serena/Clijsters/Wozniacki
 
hugobosstachini

hugobosstachini

Professional
To me - men :
Ao - Del po
RG - Murray
Wim - Murray
USo - Gulbis/Murray/Del po

Women

Ao - Sharapova/Azarenka
RG - Sharapova
Wim - Justine
USO - Azarenka
 
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