Slazenger Phantom IMF vs Dunlop MAX 200G (and 300i)

35-year late comparison review!

Pics, with 200G and 300i:

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Specs:
Slazenger Phantom IMF
Dunlop MAX 200G
Dunlop MAX 300i
Head Size848484
String Pattern18x2018x2018x20
Average Cell Size1.41.31.3
Beam1920.520.5
Weight (strung test racket)370g364g364g
Balance (strung test racket)31.75cm (8pt HL)32cm32cm
StringsSyngut 15LSyngut 16NXT 15L
RA (estimate)424245
SW (estimate)340350350

Let’s discuss the specs a bit more.

Head Size
MAX 200G & 300i are listed as 84 Sqi on various Dunlop adverts. How do I know the Slazenger Phantom IMF is also 84sqi?

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Upside-down, the Phantom IMF almost precisely matches the 200G and 300i right-side-up. This makes the Slaz feel shorter as you hand is closer to the perceived center of the string-bed.

Beam
Although the Phantom IMF is thinner than 200G and 300i, it does not feel as thin like the also 19mm MAX 400i does. This is probably a paintjob effect. The Phantom has a warm tone like the MAX 200G, whereas the original 400i was a cool grey colour (the Swirly 400i feels thicker in its emerald and silver paint). The Slaz feels solid and chunky even though it is svelte.

Weight & Balance
There is no sticker on my Slaz, but I assume it is an L4 at 370g strung. The balance is a very nice 31.75cm, which adds to the manoeuvrable feel. One could speculate that since the egg-shape frames have more mass at 8 & 4 than the 200G and 300i, the typical balances and moreover swing-weights of the Slaz are likely to be lower. My Slaz certainly feels more manoeuvrable at its weight, which I’ve estimated to be 10 SW points less.

Flex (RA estimate)
If MAX 200G is 42 and 300i is 45, then the Slaz is most similar to the 200G. Neither Noryl GTX nor XAS fibres are written on the Slaz, so it logically seems to be the same construction as the 200G, just 70% Nylon and 30% graphite filaments, and have a 42 ish RA.

String-bed
I noticed that the strings are close to the edges such that it is even difficult to put a dampener at the bottom, so I measured the cells of the 18x20 bed, and they are indeed more spread out than the 200G/300i. At 1.4cm2, they are as wide as a modern 16x19 on a 100sqi frame. Also more open than a 400i. The launch angle does seem to be a little higher, but there does not seem to be a lack of control so far.

Initial Findings
The Slazenger feels very plush but also solid, just like a MAX 200G. The head feels if anything a bit more flexible, but the sweet-spot is still large and satisfying like a 200G. There is a counter-intuitive adjustment period with egg-heads IME. You feel like you should hit a lot lower, but in fact the sweet-spot is only slightly below that of normal shaped heads. This is very interesting. Despite being from the same factory, I had assumed the Slaz would have some deficiencies compared to the 200G, but I'm very pleasantly wrong so far.

Could this be the holy-grail? (!): a racket as solid and yet plush as a MAX 200G, but with more manoeuvrability and spin…

[Hitting analysis to come]
 
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There must have been many comparison reviews in magazines back in the day.

After a quick hit today, the Slaz doesn't quite have the control and power of the 200G, but I haven't tried adding spin yet.
 
After a first proper hit today, here are my TW style ratings:

MAX 200GMAX 300iPhantom IMF
Overall
8.5
8.0
8.1
Groundstrokes
9​
9​
9​
Volleys
9
8​
8​
Serves
9
8​
8​
Returns
9​
9​
8​
Power
8​
9
8​
Control
9
8​
8​
Maneuverability
7​
7​
8
Stability
9​
9​
8​
Comfort
9​
8​
9​
Touch/Feel
10
8​
8​
Topspin
6​
6​
8
Slice
9​
8​
8​

The highlight for the Phantom IMF was superior BH and FH topspin compared to the MAX 200G and 300i. Strictly speaking, it was inside-out topspin. I don't know whether that is a peculiarity of egg-heads, but the 'off' shots seemed very natural with the Slaz. The Phantom lacked the precision on serves and volleys compared to 200G, but was still very good. And the stability wasn't quite there outside of the sweet-spot, but a good hit was very comfortable. Overall, another great IMF model which should definitely be considered if a bit more manoeuvrability and cross-court based rallies game is preferred.

Revised scoring after second hit. Really very good frame. Superior connection than 300i (due to lower RA) makes it more satisfying overall.
 
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My first (of many ??) Max 200G arrived in the post today.
I`m well pleased with it though yet to put it through it`s paces.
Mine is an early version with no patent number and a tapered beam complete with original case


Luckily the paintwork is in very good shape with the minor exception of the top of head scratching from use..the racket has been re-strung at some point in it`s life and extra grommets inserted for some reason.
Overallit`s been well cared for though.
The black paint job is impressive but I think the Slazenger`s is a bit classier.

I`ve also picked up a few other non IMF 80`s Dunlop graphite/composites that I enjoy hitting with but can find little info about online:
The McEnroe Comp and the Pro Comp 10
Two early Austrian made Head graphites are also new arrivals:
A Comp Edge that needs a re-string as the strings seem to have "gone dead" and a Pro Series Magnum Special 35 which got it`s first hit today and I liked it from the off.
I really enjoy the fact that with these more compact and slightly heavier older models you can still add pop to the ball with a more compact swing and with most having an 18x20 string pattern you can get nice accuracy ,slice etc.
Luckily I`m not a heavy topspinning baseliner..I`d probably not fair to well with these !

I`m having problems uploading more than 3 images ..if anyone knows what I may be doing wrong please get in touch :)
 
A slightly late follow up to my previous post.
My Phantom has now been re-strung and now plays way better- as it came with what I think was the original string set !
Sadly I`ve lost the stencil graphic though :(



I wanted to try and preserve the original grip by using an overgrip- but the added girth is just too big to make it easy to use effectively.
The early version 200G I picked up sadly got the thumbs down from the stringer who discovered a small crack in the frame at the top .
The crack possibly added to rather than being the cause of the "dead" feel of the old strings.
Recently though I managed to find a replacement later version complete with what I think is the correct case pair with a great condition late 1980`s Snauwaert Graphite Mid and a racket bag for under £30.


My version has the John Mcenroe signature on the shaft
I`ve played briefly with the new 200G and it certainly feels better than my first but it will go for a re-string soon as it still has old strings ..stringers sticker from 1994 :)
The Snauwaert is my first from that company and I`m well impressed.
Excellent paint job.
Plays great with new synthetic gut at 52lb -feel is excellent




I`m really likely most of the graphite/composite rackets from this era that I`ve managed to find from Dunlop, Slazenger,Head and now Snauwaert.
Admittedly they can`t compete with modern rackets on topspin abilities -but on the plus side I find the higher weights ,solid build can help with stablity against heavy hitters and the smaller head size helps with overall manouverabilty.Generally they give amout of feel .
I find them good on the serving front too.

I`m now looking to find stencils to fit the smaller size heads if they are available .
 
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A slightly late follow up to my previous post.
My Phantom has now been re-strung and now plays way better- as it came with what I think was the original string set !
Sadly I`ve lost the stencil graphic though :(



I wanted to try and preserve the original grip by using an overgrip- but the added girth is just too big to make it easy to use effectively.
The early version 200G I picked up sadly got the thumbs down from the stringer who discovered a small crack in the frame at the top .
The crack possibly added to rather than being the cause of the "dead" feel of the old strings.
Recently though I managed to find a replacement later version complete with what I think is the correct case pair with a great condition late 1980`s Snauwaert Graphite Mid and a racket bag for under £30.


My version has the John Mcenroe signature on the shaft
I`ve played briefly with the new 200G and it certainly feels better than my first but it will go for a re-string soon as it still has old strings ..stringers sticker from 1994 :)
The Snauwaert is my first from that company and I`m well impressed.
Excellent paint job.
Plays great with new synthetic gut at 52lb -feel is excellent




I`m really likely most of the graphite/composite rackets from this era that I`ve managed to find from Dunlop, Slazenger,Head and now Snauwaert.
Admittedly they can`t compete with modern rackets on topspin abilities -but on the plus side I find the higher weights ,solid build can help with stablity against heavy hitters and the smaller head size helps with overall manouverabilty.Generally they give amout of feel .
I find them find on the serving front too.

I`m now looking to find stencils to fit the smaller size heads if they are available .

Look for a squash centre. The modern Dunlop squash stencil is perfect for the 200G, and you may find a Slazenger one as they still make squash rackets.
 
possibly i have asked this before, is there anything which could be considered a modern successor, with a combination of softness and control yet powerful, which doesnt weight 375g?
i mean, it's possible to use a max200g indoors, even now....but on clay, it's more difficult. 95/98 inch equivalent? i have an angell asi2 at the moment, which is nice, but i wouldn't say is a modern equivalent.
 
possibly i have asked this before, is there anything which could be considered a modern successor, with a combination of softness and control yet powerful, which doesnt weight 375g?
i mean, it's possible to use a max200g indoors, even now....but on clay, it's more difficult. 95/98 inch equivalent? i have an angell asi2 at the moment, which is nice, but i wouldn't say is a modern equivalent.
I`m not aware of a modern counterpart I`m afraid..the last of the IMF series -the Max 800i has a larger head so would be better for clay/spin
I think the head size might be slightly less than 95 though so worth chhecking other threads for the stats.
It does allow for a higher stringing tension too as I recall.
They can be had for a lot less than a 200G as well..the paint job on them is very `80`s :)
 
i think i'm very 80s so thats ok!
The glossy versions of the MAX 200, 400, 500 & 800 show some similarities but also some differences:

Dunlop-MAX-Glossies.jpg


The 800i at the top seems more modern in the late 80s with its black fade colours and oval beam, whereas, the purple 500i seems a bit clunky having a box-beam more similar to other mid-80s MAXes. Both are 95sqi and have a constant taper beam, and are extremely comfortable whilst having massive power if you can swing them. They are fine to manoeuvre on groundstrokes, but serving can be tricky due to the mass. They also both have strangely narrow mainstrings, which leads to an average cell size of 1.225cm2 for the central 100 cells that is smaller than the 200G's 1.325cm2, despite being 16x19 on a 95sqi hoop, compared to 18x20 on an 84sqi hoop. I assume they did this to reign in the power, and differentiate them a bit from the Profile and Thunderstick! I slightly prefer the 500i as the box beam provides a bit more of a controlled hit. I shall give it a go on clay this year.
 
I`ve recently watched some of that footage on youtube too ..really entertaining watch her play Steffi in so many good matches from the late `80`s through until the mid 90`s..though not that many with the Phantom IMF that I`ve been able to spot.
It does seem amazing that she produced so many great "moon-balls" with such small racket head by todays standards.
I was hoping to find Steffi 200G vs Arantxa Phantom IMF but have drawn a blank so far.
Poor VHS quality at the time didn`t aid spotting fine detail either during play or when looking at a fuzzy feeze frame.
I might have a hit with my Phantom this weekend and see how it compares with a MAX 300i I`ve just got my hands on.
As the 300i still has the original strings and Dunlop leather grip I`m guessing the Phantom will have the edge :)
 
I found my Phantom by pure accident a year or so ago at a car boot sale here in England..up until then I`d never heard of them.
I noticed it had IMF on the cover and as I had both a Dunlop Max 400i and 800i by then I had to investigate the bag.
Inside was an almost like new specimen so I quickly gave the nice nice lady the £3 she wanted along with another £3 for a late 80`s graphite Head Comp
I`ve since had both restrung with synthetic gut but kept the original grips on under an overgrip.
I have a save search on **** for a Phantom IMF but I`ve yet to receive a correct alert.
Not sure where you`re based but I`m guessing Europe would be the most likely place to track one down.
Most likely England and then maybe Spain for the Arantxa fans ?
I still keep my eyes peeled for rackets should I ever find one again I`ll bag it for you .
 
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Certainly a rare racket. I think it was 1985-87 production, at which time the 200G would have been favoured by most people. I've got a 1991 advert with them reduced from £80 to £29! Mine is for special occasions only - don't want to have to restring it and risk anything.
 
I`ve recently watched some of that footage on youtube too ..really entertaining watch her play Steffi in so many good matches from the late `80`s through until the mid 90`s..though not that many with the Phantom IMF that I`ve been able to spot.
It does seem amazing that she produced so many great "moon-balls" with such small racket head by todays standards.
I was hoping to find Steffi 200G vs Arantxa Phantom IMF but have drawn a blank so far.
Poor VHS quality at the time didn`t aid spotting fine detail either during play or when looking at a fuzzy feeze frame.
I might have a hit with my Phantom this weekend and see how it compares with a MAX 300i I`ve just got my hands on.
As the 300i still has the original strings and Dunlop leather grip I`m guessing the Phantom will have the edge :)
If the 300i's original strings are yellow, they may be still fine.

Tricky to find Arantxa v Steffi with the Phantom IMF that she used from 86-88, as she was just 14-16 years old then, and I don't think she played all of the biggest tournaments. The first GS final they met was her win in 1989 which was with the Phantom 95. Probably vs Gabi in 1987 FO was the biggest match she contested with it, or perhaps a doubles tournament.
 
If the 300i's original strings are yellow, they may be still fine.

Tricky to find Arantxa v Steffi with the Phantom IMF that she used from 86-88, as she was just 14-16 years old then, and I don't think she played all of the biggest tournaments. The first GS final they met was her win in 1989 which was with the Phantom 95. Probably vs Gabi in 1987 FO was the biggest match she contested with it, or perhaps a doubles tournament.
Sanchez used the Slazenger Silhouette after the IMF Phantom.
 
Hi Grafil,
yes my strings are yellow ..they sound/feel pretty taught and no friction grooves between the strings.
It`s already in my racket bag for a hit tomorrow -along with an 800i I`ve not used for a while.
If the 300i plays decently I may well stick with the original stringing as I`ve have plenty of other vintage sticks to chose from .
On the look out now to complete the set with a 500i and 150 and poss 200G Pro.
From what I`ve read the smaller head 150 is pretty heavy and possible just for the collection rather than use -similar to the Head Arthur Ashe Competition (1) I have -striking looks but a bit of a brute to use and not a lot of feel.
 
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Hi Grafil,
yes my strings are yellow ..they sound/feel pretty taught and no friction grooves between the strings.
It`s already in my racket bag for a hit tomorrow -along with an 800i I not used for a while.
If the 300i plays decently I may well stick with the original stringing as I`ve have plenty of other vintage sticks to chose from .
On the look out now to complete the set with a 500i and 150 and poss 200G Pro.
From what I`ve read the smaller head 150 is pretty heavy and possible just for the collection rather than use -similar to the Head Arthur Ashe Competition (1) I have -striking looks but a bit of a brute to use and not a lot of feel.
If the yellow strings still play ok, think very carefully before replacing them, because I haven't found a syngut today with the same feel.

The 150G, which usually comes strung with gut or SuperLastek syngut (also good), is fine to play with today just like most Dunlop/Slazenger Standards. Although the weights are typically around 380g, they don't feel that heavy. It has great power/control and feel, and is ideal for getting your eye in. It's perfect for half an hour before moving to a 200G/300i, which will then feel really easy to hit. I you haven't experienced hitting a 'light' 200G around 365g after hitting a 150G, you've missed one of tennis' greatest experiences!
 
Played 1hr+ with the Phantom IMF last night against some good opponents. OMG, when you middle a fast service return, it's like some sort of dream!
 
Glad you had an enjoyable hit with it.
Did you play with the original stringing ?
I played a few times with my yellow originals but they were just too dead so I just got them re-done in synthetic gut at 50lbs -
Huge improvement.
Great feel to the racket- and from what I can remember from the last game it felt slightly easier racket to weild than the 200G.
Very stable and solid feel in my eyes and can usually handle returning serve from the heaviest serving guy at my tennis club .
 
Glad you had an enjoyable hit with it.
Did you play with the original stringing ?
I played a few times with my yellow originals but they were just too dead so I just got them re-done in synthetic gut at 50lbs -
Huge improvement.
Great feel to the racket- and from what I can remember from the last game it felt slightly easier racket to weild than the 200G.
Very stable and solid feel in my eyes and can usually handle returning serve from the heaviest serving guy at my tennis club .
Yes, I scored the Phantom as a touch more manoeuvrable in my comparison table above, I guess because it's an egg-shape. I got lucky with mine that the original syngut strings still have good tension and feel. Not going to risk changing them.

On the other hand, my conclusion of the poly experiment in the IMFs is that it is not worth the bother compared to syngut/gut. From trying Element, 4G and AluPower in some 200Gs and 300is, I find you get just about 2-3hrs of nice play, then it's a bit nasty feeling. The polys make the frame sound a bit hollow too with off-centre hits, even with dampener. In contrast synguts/gut make the whole bed feel solid.
 
Yes, I scored the Phantom as a touch more manoeuvrable in my comparison table above, I guess because it's an egg-shape. I got lucky with mine that the original syngut strings still have good tension and feel. Not going to risk changing them.

On the other hand, my conclusion of the poly experiment in the IMFs is that it is not worth the bother compared to syngut/gut. From trying Element, 4G and AluPower in some 200Gs and 300is, I find you get just about 2-3hrs of nice play, then it's a bit nasty feeling. The polys make the frame sound a bit hollow too with off-centre hits, even with dampener. In contrast synguts/gut make the whole bed feel solid.
Good to hear that syngut seems the better option as I`ve just handed in two rackets for re-stringing with it.
The local guy who I use for stringing works through a local independant sports shop ( but has his set up at home ) and doesn`t have the gold colour you suggested for my glossy Max Pro so I`ve gone for black strings and I might pop on a gold flying D when II get it back.
Decided to try a 200G with a lower tension so have asked for 45lbs.
Also having the Pro series Magnum done at 48lbs as opposed to my more usually 50-52 ball park range.
 
Where have you been young man? your mother other forum members and I have been worried sick that you hadn’t stopped by in nearly a week.
Hiking in the Pennines, despite terrible weather! It has rained most of July in the UK, and my indoor club nights have ended, so not hitting much at the moment.
 
Just a heads up for anyone wanting to get their hands on the rare beast that is the Slazenger Phantom IMF ..
a new Buy it Now listing has just popped up on the bay in the U.K.
Looks in pretty decent shape and complete with its full length bag ..only £25 plus postage .
These come up once in a blue moon so check it out if you`re tempted.
The listing is`nt mine or anyone I know btw
:
https://www.****.co.uk/itm/22571580...K9GEUdTkN5nx0neppsHP4Q2gQW|tkp:Bk9SR96Rs-a6Yg
 
Gone already?
Hi Michael,
I bagged the racket a couple of hours after I posted the heads up message on here as It was not taken- and I didn`t like the thought of somebody buying it who didn`t appreciate it`s uniqueness/history.
I`m happy to pass it on to you though as I recognise your name from other postings on IMF frames threads.
If my memory is correct you`re living somewhere in Europe ?
 
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I have all those IMF racquets and have never had problems stringing and restringing them. The strings listed are too thick for the head size and string pattern, IMO. I usually string them at 55 with 17g syn gut. Prince Syn Gut original if you like a bit crispier feel or Duraflex for a softer feel. Because the grommet holes are so large, the racquets easily accommodate thicker natural gut (from India) which I use in hybrid with syn gut (crosses). The sweet spot on these racquets feels as large as any 95 sq in.
 
I have all those IMF racquets and have never had problems stringing and restringing them. The strings listed are too thick for the head size and string pattern, IMO. I usually string them at 55 with 17g syn gut. Prince Syn Gut original if you like a bit crispier feel or Duraflex for a softer feel. Because the grommet holes are so large, the racquets easily accommodate thicker natural gut (from India) which I use in hybrid with syn gut (crosses). The sweet spot on these racquets feels as large as any 95 sq in.
Yes, thinner strings certainly do make the IMFs feel more lively, and I would go for 16-17 usually on a 200G; but as I noted above the string-cell spacing of the Phantom, 200G and 300i are as wide open as a typical modern 98sqi 16x19 (and even wider for the Phantom), so I find mid range gauges are fine if you want a bit more comfort. The Phantom has as wide open cells as a modern 100sqi 16x19 at 1.4cm2 (like a Pure Aero for example), and a slightly higher launch angle, so I would go for a gauge like 15L-16 on that if I did ever replace its original strings.
 
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Yes, thinner strings certainly do make the IMFs feel more lively, and I would go for 16-17 usually on a 200G; but as I noted above the string-cell spacing of the Phantom, 200G and 300i are as wide open as a typical modern 98sqi 16x19 (and even wider for the Phantom), so I find mid range gauges are fine if you want a bit more comfort. The Phantom has as wide open cells as a modern 100sqi 16x19 at 1.4cm2 (like a Pure Aero for example), and a slightly higher launch angle, so I would go for a gauge like 15L-16 on that if I did ever replace its original strings.
Not sure how you found the string-cell spacing to be different.. they are all 84 sq in with 18x20 pattern. The mold for the 300i is the same as for the 200g, same "drill pattern", though obviously there was no drilling.
 
Not sure how you found the string-cell spacing to be different.. they are all 84 sq in with 18x20 pattern. The mold for the 300i is the same as for the 200g, same "drill pattern", though obviously there was no drilling.
Take a look at the picture, and my description above. The are the same size, but the strings go to nearer the edges on the Phantom.
 
Went to pickup a couple of pro staff classics last night and the seller had some other rackets - went for 2 walked away with 6 :) amongst them was both of these. Get home and look up the Phantom which I had not seen before and came across this thread. look forward to hitting them.
Slazenger Phantom IMFDunlop MAX 200G
 
Went to pickup a couple of pro staff classics last night and the seller had some other rackets - went for 2 walked away with 6 :) amongst them was both of these. Get home and look up the Phantom which I had not seen before and came across this thread. look forward to hitting them.
Slazenger Phantom IMFDunlop MAX 200G

Seems like that seller had good taste. Prepare for a pleasant surprise.
 
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